Michelle does not represent the gay community...
 

...if dressing up as a woman and prancing around in woman's attire represents the gay community then we are not in 2015 i'm sorry.

I know being a drag queen is a job, and its very fun and they are all funny and i see all that. It represents freedom of expression and freedom to be who you want to be but it does NOT represent the gay community, so she shouldn't say that she represents the gay community because she doesn't, she represents a small part of it at most, but mostly represents her community which are drag queens.

(and if theyre anything like the ones im seeing on BOTS - being fame hungry, attention seeking, sexual freaks[WHAT IS WITH THE LICKING]then god forbid anyone thinking thats what being gay is all about). The ones on BOTS don't represent drag queens in a good light, and brings the gay community back 100 years.

Opinions?

I feel like her opinion of Perez would change if he put on a wig and a bit of lippy.

you make a brilliant point, but as i am not part of that community i dont think its my place to comment.

Wonderful...

MICHELLE TO WIN

Everyone is allowed to comment.
I'm gay, but not a drag queen yet im commenting on them
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Much better representive then Pratez

I am very fond of Michelle but you cannot say she represents the gay community as a whole!

YES YES YES.

She really is a pathetic woman who thinks she can use a 'community' to make something of herself but if following Hopkins around like a lost sheep is all there is to her then i feel genuine pity for her!
Another 5 years and she can ship herself off to an old folks home where she can play 'Bad Bitches' with all of the other old ladies.:bored:

Yes but going back to MB's point - Perez has a very diva-ish attitude and is very attention seeking and likes being the center of attention - much like a Drag Queen.

She represents herself that is all.

http://38.media.tumblr.com/04fe379ce...6j64o5_400.gif :love:

how the hell do i post gifs

omfg :joker:

Got me thinking Conzers and I'm speaking from my brother's perspective. He is gay and has staged charity drag shows....as you say, for artistic expression and fun in the context of the show and ticket sales/raising money.

The drag persona is a very small part of him as a whole. He wouldn't classify himself as a drag queen but just someone who has the freedom to express himself how he wants when he wants. I do know one thing.....he would find it highly amusing that a straight woman claims to represent 'the gays' on the basis of largely being known for a TV show with RuPaul.

She obviously has good intentions but an over-inflated opinion of her role in life in my opinion.

I agree and think this could be said for anyone other the planet. Can't see how anyone can say they represent anyone else, even politicians only pretend that they do.

YES! YOU HAVE IT!
He is a drag queen because he has the right for freedom of expression - he wants to do tht sometimes which is fair enough.

He is not a drag queen because he is gay.

She doesn't represent anyone but herself.
If she has a "cause" its not coming through effectively, she needs to take lessons from Perez on how to further that cause.

Hi Michelle.......how did you get that iPad through BB Security!
To answer your question.......You can't post gifs from within the CBB House, not allowed! :pat::pat:

use [ img][ /img] but take out the spaces

Yes you are welcome :idc:

A poster that I saw on DS would accuse you of “pretending to be gay” with that OP Conzors.

I can't remember their name again now though but it was funny.:joker:

Anyway I agree with you on Michelle, I'm not gay so it's probably not my place to say this but I'm going for it anyway, I feel that she uses the gay community as a way to big up her ego, and to further her career.

So basically you're making this assumption based on a tv show about drag queens that she is a judge on.

Do some research she has been a massive part of fighting for LGBT rights since the 1980s! taking part in pride marches, fund raising, spreading aids awareness, protesting about equal rights for all gays.

She has never once said all gay men are drag queens or neither does she think that. She's been openly fighting for gay men and lesbians for 3 decades!

Some research should of been done by yourself before posting on such a serious subject and not basing a strong opinion on another reality show shes a part of seeing that's just a part of her media career.

I'm sorry op but you got this one wrong.

Le tme repeat myself MICHELLE HAS NEVER ONCE SAID SHE ONLY SUPPORTS DRAG QUEENS OR INSINUATED ALL GAYS ARE DRAG QUEENS. MICHELLE IS A SUPPORTER OF THE WHOLE GAY COMMUNITY! HER T-SHIRT REGARDING ALL MEMBERS OF THE LGBT SOCIETY SHOULD TELL YOU THAT

You're welcome :)

Thank you

I guess i dont really get the connection between drag queens and being gay. two of my close friends are gay (one gay one lesbian) and even then their experiences are different and they experience different problems although they come under the umbrella term LBGT.

this is what confused me which i asked about in another thread-how does her being on a show for drag queens make her a spokesperson for a whole group of diverse people on that alone? I assumed she did more than that because she keeps going on about the LBGT movement i assumed she did more, but i have yet to hear her mention anything else shes done for the cause (not saying she hasnt, just its not been made clear). i dont see how championing drag queens helps my friend from not getting a brick through his window when it was discovered he was gay? how does her promoting visibility for drag queens stop my friend being sexually harassed and told she just hasnt "had a good dick in her thats why shes lesbian" after she was spotted with her girlfriend?

but i think what personally wound me up was when she went on about perez setting the movement back 50 years. yes i agree totally point out hes a douchebag et al but they way she said that made it sound like she was rallying for points. i dont like perez either but making it out that everyone is going to judge all gay people on his actions when there are plently of gay (and very much loved) celebrities out there is pretty insulting to the viewers and came across as pandering, and being as big of a drama queen as perez himself. I think its great she is championing drag queens, but again i dont get how that makes her the spokeperson for all LBGT people based on the fact she co-hosts a drag show on that point alone. I think is condescending to the problems and violence LBGT people still unfortunatly face today.

sorry for the long post but thats my whole view, i didnt want to comment as someone who is not LBGT but seeing the problems and issues my gay friends have gone though i dont like how this is all seeminging being simplified down to "well as long as I can wear high heels and make up everything is ok". when you are doing something about the violence, exploitation and homelessness that effect LBGT people then we can talk. until then, can we not with the grandiose statements please.

(eta i am going on how this is being discussed, not what she may do overall as thats not been made clear by anyone)

Michelle has been massive part of fighting for LGBT rights since the 1980s! taking part in pride marches, fund raising, spreading aids awareness, protesting about equal rights and working to stop homophobia for all gays so that includes your friend. I don't think your friend would have a problem with a woman with the power of being in the public eye bringing such disgusting acts to the publics attention and getting something done about it.

That's 3 decades shes worked side by side with all members from the lgbt community.

She has touched on it briefly on the show aswell so it seems people just didn't pay attention.

The fact she got so upset with Perez was obvious she had been talking about it more but obviously with editing it wasn't shown that's why people will obviously come to the conclusion she was overreacting because they done know her history or what led up to that outburst in the diary room.

As much as I love Michelle she is a ****ty ally did you guys forget how she loves to say tr**ny?? http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/m...ason-six300714

If I did then that article makes no mention of that whatsoever...

The article where she is defending transphobic language?
The one right there?

Well I mean she was talking about the 'she-mail' segment of the show (which was a total overreaction but now it's gone I couldn't care less) and doesn't mention the word ****** whatsoever but OK

I literally says T word in the title
also is she-male not transphobic???

If I was a member of gay community I'd be ashamed to have someone like Michelle representing me, look how she treated Alicia. She treated that women with utter scorn and derision. Even when Michelle was being pleasant to Alicia her tone was horribly patronising. If the gay community want someone like that representing them ... well...good luck with changing preconceived ideas.

No One person is a representative of ANY group.

And most members of "groups" or "communities" don't like when people
make claims that they are representatives.

Why would they think i'm prefending to be gay? Lol

This isnt a forum about researching the 1980's. I'm going by what she has said in the house, one which is that Perez sets the gay community back 50 years (when what she represents is a very similer prospect) and another is how she was explaining why she's friends with Kav - 'because, you know, the gay thing' were her exact words, which is totally contradictive as she hates Perez so 'the gay thing' cannot be used to describe why you are friends with someone. She is full of inconsistancies.

I have respect her and have no doubt that she has done this work previously in order to support homosexuality etc, but she, personally represents the drag queen community, so being gay has nothing to do with that community.

They thought that any gay member that was attacking Michelle was “pretending to be gay” and that they was pretending so they could be “homophobic.”

Really? REALLY?!

Michelle Visage has made defending the rights of the LGBT community her life's work. You don't have to like her or necessarily care for having her as a representative, but everyone should respect and appreciate the work she has done and the work she continues to do for the community. Attempting to twist that into something negative for the sake of defending someone like Perez Hilton on a game show is more deplorable than anything you could ever accuse Michelle of doing.

Oh yea? Any why don't you say this to Michelle's face? You're so two-faced it makes me sick.