Pope says smacking children is okay
 

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POPE FRANCIS HAS said it’s okay for parents to smack their children, once their dignity in maintained.
According to widespread reports this morning, the Pope made the remarks during his weekly general audience.
Speaking about the role of fathers in the family, he said a good father should be able to “correct with firmness”.
“One time, I heard a father in a meeting with married couples say ‘I sometimes have to smack my children a bit, but never in the face so as to not humiliate them’,” Francis said, according to the Guardian.
“How beautiful.” the Pope added.

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He knows the sense of dignity! He has to punish them but does it justly and moves on.
A representative of the Vatican press office said the Pope wasn’t speaking about committing violence, but about helping children to grow and mature.
Child protection
Meanwhile, Pope Francis warned clergy yesterday they must never try to cover up sexual abuse, as a new Church child protection panel prepared to meet for the first time.
In a strongly-worded letter to the heads of national bishops’ conferences and religious orders, he demanded “close and complete” cooperation with the watchdog he has established at the Vatican.
“Families need to know that the Church is making every effort to protect their children,” he said.
The Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors, which will hold its first full meeting today, has been given a brief to drive reform on an issue that has severely damaged the Church’s authority and reputation around the world.
Headed by American cardinal Sean O’Malley, it includes clerics and lay people from all corners of the world, including two victims of paedophile priests, Peter Sanders from Britain and Ireland’s Marie Collins.

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The Pope says is fine to Smack your kids
 

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Yes Madame
The Pope backs you

irrelevant old fool


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This line :umm2:



“One time, I heard a father in a meeting with married couples say ‘I sometimes have to smack my children a bit, but never in the face so as to not humiliate them’,” Francis said, according to the Guardian.
“How beautiful.” the Pope added.

well he said last month that if someone insults your mother you should punch them:shocked:


"oh this new pope is so refreshing and modern.."

this old fool lies for a living and gets paid to do so

How he got the gig of Boss of Ireland I will never know

:idc:

Not so much anymore :laugh:

Can only agree tbh, look how children turn out when they don't get a slapped arse, it's never good. :idc:

I'd punch someone if they insulted my mother too, so this old geeza is bang on if you ask me :worship:

How would you know how a child who was not "hit" turned out?

I don't think it's ever okay to smack your child.

It's great,

all I have to do is threaten the kids to convert to Catholicism now to keep them in line :laugh:

I have 43,504 children

But seriously you can pretty accurately tell which children are disciplined and which aren't in public, a misbehaving little brat has a PC parent.

Excuse me I have two children who are very well behaved and I have never laid a finger on them :nono:

Do you think those children who turn out nasty are like that because they're not hit? And how do you know they're not? They could be the ones who do get hit :think:

does he think he is the Katie Hopkins of the Catholic world or

You should be able to discipline your child without resorting to hitting them.

Those who usually hit their kids are those who didn't bring their child/children up well.

but sticky mouse traps are bad?

Then you're a good mother, some parents don't know wtf they are doing and don't do anything and their kids turn out horrible.

Yes some children who act up may be punished, but ones who abuse their parents and throw strops certainly aren't. If their parents are not good enough to discipline them 'peacefully' then there isn't much of a choice of what they can do to make their kid behave. I certainly think making 'smacking' illegal is ridiculous, it's not like parents would kick the shit out of their kid if they could, just need a little discipline. Legit abusive parents will hurt their children law or no law.

I don't punch hard enough to make somebody tear themselves to pieces and cause their insides to fall out. :idc:

What world do you live in to compare punching somebody to killing an animal, kid?

mess

So it's ok for bad parents to hit their kids because they're not good enough to discipline their kids any other way? :laugh:

Both inflict pain..
Who do you think you are calling me kid? :umm2:

Pack it in you two :nono:

Sticky subject really, there is no good answer to it, but for the benefit of the child then maybe. It is speculation as I don't have a kid, if I did then maybe my opinion would be different but I can't for the life of me see how a light slap on the leg would mess a kid's life up?

My Mum has raised 4 kids, 3 from one relationship and me with my Dad, the only time she has ever laid a finger on one of us was me, when i was like, 11, i said something horrible about my Dad because he was punishing me, so she slapped my leg, I was the only one of her kids that she had ever done that to and she cried for longer than i did, she was mortified and never did it again.
Me and my siblings all grew up to be, decent enough people, never had any trouble and my parents have always said, they could take us anywhere and not have to worry about any of us misbehaving.

So personally i see no correlation between kids being smacked and their behaviour :shrug:

That being said, i think parents should be able to punish their kids how they see fit, i don't mean beating them, but if a clip round the ear or the back of legs will be more effective for their child than taking away their consoles, then so be it, as long as it's not drastic or over the top.

I have never hit the small LTs and they have turned out ok


(prob should have smacked the mother tho...:idc:)

what if it was his kid that insulted his mother?

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There is no comparison there, being punched is nothing.
Also, you are a kid? :laugh: It was not an insult, I'm sure I have referred to you as 'kid' before and you took no offense.

Though I take offense at the comparison you made, people eh...

I'd shoot it :evilgrin:

Lock it in the cupboard for a couple of days, sorted.

Well i never said a slap on the leg would mess up a kids life. I just don't think resorting to physically hurting your child is ever a good way to discipline them

Honestly who knows, some people are just born arseholes and would not respond to any other form of punishment, but I think it's a subject that only actual parents can have a real say in.

Exactly!! I think parents who don't smack their kids just have decent kids :idc: it's not like there is a certain age where a person graduates into a fully fledged prick!

if theyre about to electrocute themselves by jumping in a bath with an electrical aplliance nearby....if theyre about to put their hands in the fire if theyre about to stab their sister with a knife....if theyre about to walk through glass etc etcetc etc

yes what about all of these instances where a warning is necessary but to then hit them..?

An adult can make a warning sufficiently serious as to make it memorable.

That's half the bloody reason this current generation were never smacked or disciplined when they were ankle biters.

Of course parents should be able to smack their children , they love their children above all else so if they smack them they probably deserved it.

It is the fault of this ridiculous PC culture where little children have rights and they must be respected.

Bollocks....... They are little brats who will learn to play on their parents love and try and get away with more and more and more, they need sometimes a short sharp shock to let them know they have to respect their parents wishes.

Not smacking them has resulted in my view immensely to this current generation of spoilt, cheeky, disrespectful kids who think they are entitled to get away with anything ....


Ps. Bring back the birch.....






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I'm completely against it. It's not okay to smack anybody, except your own mentally and physically weak children? I've never understood that train of thought.

There are always better options than resulting to lazy and abusive smacking. It's archaic.

What nonsense. You absolutely can't tell between children that have been hit and those that haven't. It's not the norm. In fact the majority of children I see playing up have aggresive, loud mouthed parents who look beyond caring about acting civil towards them.

As a battered child, I always swore I would never hit my kids.
Well, that lasted until the first one reached his terrible twos.
A light tap on the hand each time he tried to put a knife into the video player soon worked.
He did not understand the word no:laugh:
I really don't understand why you would hit your child hard enough to hurt it though.

Church advocated violence? :/ I can't hand on heart say I've never hit I can count on my fingers the times I've hit mine, but I would never recommend it.

I've found the opposite. On the most part I've found kids that are slapped aren't at all that disciplined. In *most* cases a child that is constantly hit as a discipline grows up thinking it is right to hit someone if they do something wrong, or they grow up mentally scarred or shy.

There are different ways to parenting and just because you don't hit your child does not mean you're being 'PC'. I know loads of parents who have never layed a finger on their kids, and those kids have turned out the be the most kind, loving and friendly people I've ever seen.

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These days you can easily bring up a child without resorting to hitting them. As long as they are taught manners, politeness, kindness, respect and gratefulness from a young age they shouldn't misbehave to the point that you need to inflict anything physical upon them. =

I find a light tap OK (although even I wouldn't do that). Anything more violent than that is just uncalled and unneeded for to be honest.

I don't have kids so maybe I'm silly to share my own opinions on this, but personally I would never hit a child and if I did I would not go to the extremes that seem common with a small minority of parents. There are very easy ways to discipline a child when they misbehave without hitting them.

I don't get the fuss with a smack across the bum? :shrug:

I got a slipper across the backside when I was a kid and I turned out fine, as did most other people.

You have evidence to back that up?

the problem is that most smacks are delivered because the parent has lost control

this myth that its a measured method of teaching is just that, a myth

You don't have to have children to have an opinion. Having children doesn't give you an automatic right to talk about things like this, just as bring a parent doesn't make you all knowing. My mum told me when I had my son that there's no book on bringing up kids, it just trial and error...boy was she right. It's hard work but I don't hit....it just condones hitting and violent behaviour but I was slapped, not often and I don't bear ill will to my parents