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arista 21-02-2015 09:27 AM

Noel Gallagher:Under Miliband country would 'go to the *********g dogs'
 
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[NOEL Gallagher has blasted Ed Miliband saying if the Labour leader
became Prime Minister Britain, “would go to the *********g dogs”.
The former Oasis star added he feels the country would be lucky
to have another leader like Tony Blair and wishes David Miliband had
taken the reins of the party instead of his brother.
He said: “I’d lived through Thatcher and this guy was making a lot of sense.
When Labour won the Election and we were invited I never gave
it a second thought. A nosey around 10 Downing Street? Let’s have it.
“Do I feel let down by Blair? No. If we ever get another
leader like him, we would be lucky.”]


sun+online
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...e-fg-dogs.html


Yes Noel I here you

Pete. 21-02-2015 09:50 AM

Spill that tea

billy123 21-02-2015 09:51 AM

That translates as im rich as **** and worried about my tax bill..
**** clicking the link that makes you an accessory to murder.

arista 21-02-2015 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7604777)
That translates as im rich as **** and worried about my tax bill..
**** clicking the link that makes you an accessory to murder.

Or like everyone else
hating Miliband

Samm 21-02-2015 10:21 AM

um no

The country would go down hill if fish face takes control aka ukip

Kizzy 21-02-2015 11:50 AM

I'm guessing his house is worth more than 2 million.

Iceman 21-02-2015 11:52 AM

That's a hell of a lot of '*'s. I'm intrigued.

InOne 21-02-2015 12:30 PM

He's been smashing all the Politicians over the last few weeks not just Ed.

Crimson Dynamo 21-02-2015 12:33 PM

manc twat

Tom4784 21-02-2015 12:43 PM

I'd take Ed and Labour over another four years of the Tories ripping the lifeblood out of the poor instead of taxing their rich pals properly.

Kizzy 21-02-2015 12:47 PM

Aren't Labour 7 points ahead? :smug:

arista 21-02-2015 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 7604916)
He's been smashing all the Politicians over the last few weeks not just Ed.

Yes I agree
but today he is having a Go at Pathetic Labour



So I say Cheers mate
to the Musician

Crimson Dynamo 21-02-2015 01:19 PM

i like his new single

arista 21-02-2015 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7604967)
i like his new single


How nice

joeysteele 21-02-2015 02:21 PM

Noel Gallagher would prefer another leader like Tony Blair, well no thank you,I will take Ed Miliband over Tony Blair any day of the week.

I really do wish celebrities would shut up, most do things for charity that aids them and gets them feree publicity and stop sort of telling people who they should or should not vote for.
Likewise Ant and Dec,of whom I loved it when Michael Heseltine on Question Time, wehn asked, did he know who they were, said, no I don't, should I?
Absolutely classic.

Just as when Gary Barlow appeared with David Cameron in 2010, however David Cameron hadn't a clue which group he was from.
I agree with whoever said above, maybe there are some fearsa s to theirt ax bills as to these commetns more than genuine concern for the UK and most of the citizens of the UK too.

I have never been and still aren't impressed with celebrities using their publicity platform to get theur current views across as to politics.
However since Noel Gallagher would love another Tony Blair, well I think that says everything really.

JoshBB 21-02-2015 03:18 PM

tbh i dont know why everyone sees ed miliband as so left-wing, if anything he's quite centrist. having him as pm would be a hell of a lot better than cameron/clegg/farage tbh

arista 21-02-2015 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7605064)
Noel Gallagher would prefer another leader like Tony Blair, well no thank you,I will take Ed Miliband over Tony Blair any day of the week.

I really do wish celebrities would shut up, most do things for charity that aids them and gets them feree publicity and stop sort of telling people who they should or should not vote for.
Likewise Ant and Dec,of whom I loved it when Michael Heseltine on Question Time, wehn asked, did he know who they were, said, no I don't, should I?
Absolutely classic.

Just as when Gary Barlow appeared with David Cameron in 2010, however David Cameron hadn't a clue which group he was from.
I agree with whoever said above, maybe there are some fearsa s to theirt ax bills as to these commetns more than genuine concern for the UK and most of the citizens of the UK too.

I have never been and still aren't impressed with celebrities using their publicity platform to get theur current views across as to politics.
However since Noel Gallagher would love another Tony Blair, well I think that says everything really.


But every day Ed is on the News saying Labour will do this or that

So its good to have some balance

joeysteele 21-02-2015 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7605288)
But every day Ed is on the News saying Labour will do this or that

So its good to have some balance

Well what should Ed Milband be saying? Should he be saying nothing as to what Labour will do.

Celebrities don't need to spout off publicly as to their views, they are not politicians.
Of course he has the right to say he doesn't like Labour or Ed Miliband but to load that with how disastrous things would be for the whole UK is a little over the top.

I wonder if you are agreeing with him that a new Tony Blair is needed then.
Or is it just he doesn't like Ed Miliband so has comments of value.

What Ed Miliband says as to what Labour will do is balanced by the Conservatives and all other parties doing the same.
Should David Cameron not be saying what the Conservatives will do,as he is, day after day too then.

The sad thing is like papers like the Sun and mail, some celebrities think everyone hangs on their every word almost, when in fact people don't.

I massively admire and love Noel Gallagher's songwriting and artistry in the 'pop' world, he is to me a genius in that and over all his work as to Oasis,for me likely the greatest group ever.
However, his political view of Ed Miliband and reading of his policies are for me as misguided and wrong as his admiration was and sit seems still is for Tony Blair.

I for one, don't need celebrities lecturing us on how to vote or who not to vote for,I make my own mind up on that.
I don't get your comment Ed Miliband is on the news every day saying what Labour will do however, we are now in the longest run in ever to a general election date there has ever been,what on earth should Ed Milband be doing other than saying every day what Labour stands for and would do.
That's politics.

I also have to solidly agree with JoshBB too as to Ed Miliband, he is more centrist, hardly very far to the left which is why the Unions don't care much for most of the policies he is presenting as they fall a great deal short of what would have been their hopes.

I would guess the Lib Dems come out with a more left leaning manifesto than Labour again and the SNP is even further to the left as is Plaid Cymru in Wales.
Noel Gallagher is one of the most talented musicians ever to surface, for me though, he would do better to keep out of the greater public arena as to politics,especially singing the praises of Tony Blair.

Lostie! 21-02-2015 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 7604933)
I'd take Ed and Labour over another four years of the Tories ripping the lifeblood out of the poor instead of taxing their rich pals properly.

:clap2:

user104658 21-02-2015 05:50 PM

Why in the name of **** are we legitimising the thick political commentary of an idiot who was in a mediocre band that hasn't been relevant for well over a decade? Seriously? Does anyone give a **** what either Gallagher knob thinks about anything at all?

AnnieK 21-02-2015 06:07 PM

I personally don't think you can ever call oasis mediocre. Particularly the first couple of albums. However that aside, noël is well within his rights to give his personal opinion on politics....whether the media choose to broadcast, print that is up to them but I guess he was asked his opinion, he gave it :shrug: He couldn't win, if he didn't give an answer people would say he's just a thick Manc twat who doesn't care about politics, he gave his opinion and is now being told he can't....why not. He is a voting member of the GBP....why should he not give his opinion, just because he's a musician, does that make his views any less his own?

user104658 21-02-2015 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 7605568)
I personally don't think you can ever call oasis mediocre. Particularly the first couple of albums. However that aside, noël is well within his rights to give his personal opinion on politics....whether the media choose to broadcast, print that is up to them but I guess he was asked his opinion, he gave it :shrug: He couldn't win, if he didn't give an answer people would say he's just a thick Manc twat who doesn't care about politics, he gave his opinion and is now being told he can't....why not. He is a voting member of the GBP....why should he not give his opinion, just because he's a musician, does that make his views any less his own?

He can give it, I'm just flabbergasted that anyone thinks it means anything. And of course you can call them mediocre because that's exactly what they were. Mediocre britpop yawn fest swaggering around in their stupid jackets with their even stupider haircuts. Talentless drivel appealing mainly to pub dwellers, football hooligans and the crack addled.

...I wasn't a fan. :joker:

joeysteele 21-02-2015 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 7605568)
I personally don't think you can ever call oasis mediocre. Particularly the first couple of albums. However that aside, noël is well within his rights to give his personal opinion on politics....whether the media choose to broadcast, print that is up to them but I guess he was asked his opinion, he gave it :shrug: He couldn't win, if he didn't give an answer people would say he's just a thick Manc twat who doesn't care about politics, he gave his opinion and is now being told he can't....why not. He is a voting member of the GBP....why should he not give his opinion, just because he's a musician, does that make his views any less his own?

Well put AnnieK.
I agree actually despite what I said above, I also think Oasis were an amazing force of music and creativity as to songwriting as well as brilliant in 'live' performances too.
Champagne Supanova being a brilliant song in itself both on disc and 'live' particularly.

I don't deny his right to his view but I do wish celebrities just indicated if they wanted to, who they would be supporting without the 'being used' bit of then having and allowing themselves to have their opinions over the front pages of newspapers.
The must know and most of them moan at the twisting of things said by our awful press, that they coudl find their commetns all over the front page.

I would prefer them to just say where their leanings are and not go on about it.
I agree with you however,I was myself perhaps a bit too strong in my objection to his comments.
He does have the right to go down that road,then we have the equal right to say if we agree or disagree as to the comments.
Our comments however will not get on the front page of a newspaper.

the truth 21-02-2015 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 7605906)
He can give it, I'm just flabbergasted that anyone thinks it means anything. And of course you can call them mediocre because that's exactly what they were. Mediocre britpop yawn fest swaggering around in their stupid jackets with their even stupider haircuts. Talentless drivel appealing mainly to pub dwellers, football hooligans and the crack addled.

...I wasn't a fan. :joker:

Oasis were a brilliant band and noel is one of the greatest pop lyricists of all time

the truth 21-02-2015 11:03 PM

Its a hard call isn't it.....new labour were ok for 3 years then frankly evil for the rest.
The gap between rich and poor actually grew to its biggest for 200 years under labour, this I WILL NEVER FORGIVE OR NEVER FORGET. The tories are heartless bastards....so what a choice eh? fake do gooders pretend socialists who create quangos bent councils cover ups back handers and trillion pound debt...or the filthy rich party who look after the elite and maybe the rest of the country will survive on the taxes of this eilte.
liberal under clegg are a disgrace.......the plaed cymru are a bunch of petty narrow minded reactionary nationalists....ukip haven't got a manifesto? who else is there?

JoshBB 21-02-2015 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7606523)
Its a hard call isn't it.....new labour were ok for 3 years then frankly evil for the rest.
The gap between rich and poor actually grew to its biggest for 200 years under labour, this I WILL NEVER FORGIVE OR NEVER FORGET. The tories are heartless bastards....so what a choice eh? fake do gooders pretend socialists who create quangos bent councils cover ups back handers and trillion pound debt...or the filthy rich party who look after the elite and maybe the rest of the country will survive on the taxes of this eilte.
liberal under clegg are a disgrace.......the plaed cymru are a bunch of petty narrow minded reactionary nationalists....ukip haven't got a manifesto? who else is there?

the greens :smug:

the truth 21-02-2015 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 7606524)
the greens :smug:

desperate times call for desperate measures...but from what ive heard theyre also full of pretend do gooders....do they have a manifesto? where would the jobs come from? are they demanding electric cars or solar panelled everything and flowers in our hair? I just cant imagine anymore lilly livered liberals running the country into bankruptcy again and covering up each others utter failures...one project im 100% behind is the severn barrage....whose likely to get that going?

Kizzy 21-02-2015 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7606551)
desperate times call for desperate measures...but from what ive heard theyre also full of pretend do gooders....do they have a manifesto? where would the jobs come from? are they demanding electric cars or solar panelled everything and flowers in our hair? I just cant imagine anymore lilly livered liberals running the country into bankruptcy again and covering up each others utter failures...one project im 100% behind is the severn barrage....whose likely to get that going?

What do you have against solar panels and electric cars?
Would they not generate jobs?

letmein 22-02-2015 04:17 AM

Miliband will always be a liability.

the truth 22-02-2015 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7606614)
What do you have against solar panels and electric cars?
Would they not generate jobs?

nothing but the bent politicians have allowed the corporations to buy up and shelve all of the technology.....making this all hopelessly unaffordable....unless you want to cough up £150,000 for a car that goes 200 miles maximum

Kizzy 22-02-2015 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7607812)
nothing but the bent politicians have allowed the corporations to buy up and shelve all of the technology.....making this all hopelessly unaffordable....unless you want to cough up £150,000 for a car that goes 200 miles maximum

Hopelessly unaffordable? like gas and electricity then?

Clean air bill taking everyones back boilers away, wood burning stoves and coal fires leaving them reliant on 'bountiful' 'cheap' north sea gas?


Here is a link to memories of Leeds wonderful electric trams, they don't want you to make your own electricity with solar panels and charging stations... they want you to be shackled to the oil barrel.

http://www.derelictplaces.co.uk/main...8#.VOpG4PmsUjw

Kizzy 22-02-2015 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letmein (Post 7606913)
Miliband will always be a liability.

All intellectuals are a liability, you would be better off with a shyster with a good PR man..

joeysteele 22-02-2015 10:12 PM

Well if Ed Miliband is a liability to Labour,(although I myself cannot see why),then surely David Cameron is too for the Conservatives.

I do believe myself,with a different leader to David Cameron the Conservatives likely would have got an overall majority in 2010.
After being PM for 5 years almost, he still hasn't got the Conservatives even to the % of votes they got in 2010,he looks nowhere like winning an overall majority again in May 2015 and looks even more likely to do far worse than 2010.

The electorate don't seem to care for him at all either and he has been PM for near 5 years, then again, they know he lied to them when he said no top down re-organisation fo the NHS, and the NHS and investigative groups are now saying that re-organisation is in part to blame for the problems now in the NHS.

The way I see it is all 3 main party leaders are not really liked by the voters, even the one who has been the serving PM for near 5 years.
Nothing to choose between the 3 then really.
I think in fact all 3 of them are liabilities ot their parties which is why I think ni the end it will be policies that decide the election on I hope a party basis and for those who want this lot out, the only effective way to bring that about is to vote labour.
(Just as if people really don't want a Labour led govt; and like what this one has done, then the only way to ensure Labour doesn't win is to vote Conservative).

A vote anywhere else really,from those who want this govt; gone, will only make the task of removing this govt; a lot harder and could even allow them in again, even this time with a small overall majority too.

I fear and almost feel sure too, that as with 2010,the good news that was evident before that election will after the election in May suddenly become watered down again by David Cameron and George Osborne.
Then once more, more alterations to better targets taking place again, this time again downwards as in 2010 and most years since until mid 2014.
That's the danger for me.

the truth 22-02-2015 10:41 PM

NO ONE will touch Cameron he will win easily, only ukip will steal a few percent off them
bottom line is new labour were the worst government in british history and not only have we not forgotten we havent forgiven and labour haven't learned a damn thing, the economy and the nhs is safer in tory hands

Kizzy 22-02-2015 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7608084)
NO ONE will touch Cameron he will win easily, only ukip will steal a few percent off them
bottom line is new labour were the worst government in british history and not only have we not forgotten we havent forgiven and labour haven't learned a damn thing, the economy and the nhs is safer in tory hands

Yeah.... :/

'Since the Coalition came to power the NHS has lost around 10,000 hospital beds in England. That's a loss of more than 5 beds per day since five years ago.'

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/...spital-5188945

joeysteele 23-02-2015 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7608084)
NO ONE will touch Cameron he will win easily, only ukip will steal a few percent off them
bottom line is new labour were the worst government in british history and not only have we not forgotten we havent forgiven and labour haven't learned a damn thing, the economy and the nhs is safer in tory hands

I don't agree at all, all govts; get things wrong and the main thing that was wrong with the Blair years was the selling off of gold reserves and the fact that Tony Blair operated in the main a milder form of Conservative govt;
For me,had I been Labour supporter in 1997, (I was only 5 at the time),I would have felt he squandered massively the chance,with massive overall majorities, to really reward and protect those who had stuck with Labour all through the bad times.

However, on many things it was a good period of govt;the NHS was invested in again, more Nurses and Doctors and it was brought back from the crippled state it was left in by the 18 year run of Conservative govt; to 1997.
No matter the problems in the NHS and the mistakes made still in it, that is a fact.
Which it again needs done after only 5 years of this govt.

The winter fuel allowance for pensioners was a great move, as was pension credit taking place from being aged 60 onwards and also the cold weather payments, only around £8 to £9 for 7days continuously freezing weather under the Conservatives but increased to £25 under Labour.
Bringing in the minimum wage, against all odds and warnings of mass unemployment if they did.
However, they should have set it up that it rose more than it has.

Until the banking crisis and then the worldwide global crisis and subsequent recession, there had been 10 years of continuous growth in the UK.
Yes, the banks should have been regulated stronger but no one could have foreseen that crisis coming,no one did really across the financial world, and in fact David Cameron and the then Conservative opposition,actually wanted less regulation of the Banking industry not more.

Contrast just those few things with this heartless bunch of cowards who can only hit the weakest, poorest and most vulnerable with some of the most cruellest testing for benefits and general policies ever applied to people sick and disabled.
Not to mention at length the obscene bedroom tax/charge.

With also the mess of their first 3 and a half years where they eroded the growth and recovery in place when they took over after coming out of the recession in May 2010, and had in the UK for that 3 and half years at best with tiny growth or no growth at all.
Contrast that with their in part unjust austerity measures that have hit severely public services and hit the most vulnerable citizens worst of all.
Measures that they said would clear the deficit by 2015, yet which have only barely halved it, even after a manipulation of how the deficit is measured now.

Contrast that with this Chancellor,never known before, having to downgrade every target he set himself at every budget and autumn statement for over 3 years in a row,almost being a laughing stock as to his judgement of the economy.
I will leave the NHS aside in the main for judgement, as there are problems all over the UK with the NHS,however the top down re-organisation was unnecessary and wrong as no voter got the chance to or did vote for same.
David Cameron barefaced lied to the voters as to that re-organisation.

I know which govt; I think is the worst ever and it for sure is not Labour,it is this heartless shower in now.

I will never believe, and it seems neither will the voters believe overall, that the NHS is safe in Conservative hands,also I am not fooled by all this great news appearing around 6 months before an election either.
My guess is, were the Conservatives to win in May,we would soon hear of a fallback again and more downgrading of targets.

I was a Conservative supporter, I have never however felt I could trust them with the NHS,which was why I voted Lib Dem in 2010.
Now, I don't believe a word David Cameron says and I will never even trust Nick Clegg's Lib Dems again for his tuition fees turnaround and disgraceful betrayal of trust to those who did trust him and supported him.

For me, those 2 leaders are massively tarnished and so for me the new boy gets a chance, namely Ed Miliband, who at least accepts Labour under Tony Blair and Gordon Brown,got a lot wrong when in power and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he will learn from all that too.

A lady a couple of years ago, who is around 80 now,does not like Labour,has only once or twice before voted labour,told me,she felt this was the most cruel,awful govt; she had lived under.
She asked me how long had it to go in power,I said till May 2015, all she wants is it gone.

I really believe,along with her, enough will, in the voting booths at that last minute, decide to get this govt; out.
More of the same austerity and bashing of the weakest from this govt; would be a disaster in my view, and I hope to all powers that be that this procratinating and near hopeless PM is gone in May, and his band of heartless cowards with him too.


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