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arista 18-03-2015 04:18 PM

Tunisia: 'Islamic' gunmen shoot and kill 20 including one British Women dead
 
At least 17 foreigners have been killed in a terror attack in Tunisia
Two gunmen opened fire in the capital's Bardo Museum about midday
The pair 'hunted down' tourists indiscriminately in the shocking attack
Another 30 people were held hostage before police raided the building
Both attackers and a policeman were killed in the ensuing shootout
Tunisian Prime Minister Habib Essid has warned other gunmen are at large


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3Ul5tHu7i

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...6698193539.jpg


They picked the Museum as its full of International Tourist

Evil I.S .

Crimson Dynamo 18-03-2015 04:21 PM

A tweet sent from pro-ISIS Twitter accounts accurately predicted the Tunisia terror attack, raising the possibility the terror group were behind the atrocity.

Sent just hours before the gunmen opened fire on the popular museum tone tweet read: 'Coming good news to Tunisia's Muslims, and a shock to the disbelievers and the hypocrites, especially those who claim to be cultured.'

Islam and its followers again


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3Ul75s6Pc

andybigbro 18-03-2015 04:23 PM

This is shocking!

This ISIS thing is getting way out of hand. They need to be stopped. Fast.

Nedusa 18-03-2015 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybigbro (Post 7646052)
This is shocking!

This ISIS thing is getting way out of hand. They need to be stopped. Fast.

Thirty Years from now the Islamic State leaders will be sipping tea in the White House rose garden with the US President.

arista 18-03-2015 06:57 PM

19 people killed

2 locals

17 Tourists
from Spain and Poland

At least the killers were Shot dead.

Ref : Ch4HDNews

Crimson Dynamo 18-03-2015 06:58 PM

and the lesson is. do not visit Islamic countries

MTVN 18-03-2015 07:00 PM

Sad that Tunisia is at risk of being engulfed in the extremism that surrounds them, they are really the only semi-stable country to have emerged out of that glorious 'Arab Spring'

Livia 18-03-2015 08:47 PM

Sad to hear this, I've had some great times in Tunisia and I bet it'll stop a lot of people going.

Ninastar 18-03-2015 08:51 PM

Horrific. RIP to all those killed. Sadly I think the worst is still yet to come. And it will be a lot closer to home.

Gstar 18-03-2015 10:24 PM

Someone I know flew out to Tunisia today :worry:

DemolitionRed 19-03-2015 07:21 AM

The Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) advise against all travel to certain parts of Tunisia... https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/tunisia

Crimson Dynamo 19-03-2015 09:22 AM

More reason to holiday in the UK

Livia 19-03-2015 09:31 AM

The gunmen carried out this action apparently because of Tunisia's reliance on tourism. Seems to me that for people to now stop going is playing into the hands of the terrorists. It wouldn't stop me going, it's probably safer now than it was a couple of days ago.

arista 19-03-2015 10:28 AM

http://news.sky.com/story/1448273/br...-attack-report


British Woman Killed In Tunisia Attack - Report

Cherie 19-03-2015 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7646986)
The gunmen carried out this action apparently because of Tunisia's reliance on tourism. Seems to me that for people to now stop going is playing into the hands of the terrorists. It wouldn't stop me going, it's probably safer now than it was a couple of days ago.

That is fine, but for families its is a big decision to risk the lives of children for a week round the pool, my friend was due to go with her family for a second time in August I doubt she will go now, not with teenagers and an 8 year old, I know I wouldn't and I would normally say it could happen anywhere, but in this instance no.

Livia 19-03-2015 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 7647080)
That is fine, but for families its is a big decision to risk the lives of children for a week round the pool, my friend was due to go with her family for a second time in August I doubt she will go now, not with teenagers and an 8 year old, I know I wouldn't and I would normally say it could happen anywhere, but in this instance no.

People still visit Egypt and they've had their fair share of violence. You can stay at home and get blown up on the Tube, as we know. Of course it's everyone's individual choice.

Kizzy 19-03-2015 11:54 AM

If the government are advising you don't then you'd be silly to ignore that imo.

Cherie 19-03-2015 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7647084)
People still visit Egypt and they've had their fair share of violence. You can stay at home and get blown up on the Tube, as we know. Of course it's everyone's individual choice.

Yeah I know all that :umm2: my point is when you have children you have responsibilities and taking them on holiday to a country where there is unrest especially an Islamic one, and it is surrounded by other countries where there is unrest is unwise imo.

Livia 19-03-2015 11:58 AM

It only happened yesterday, of course the government is being cautious. If people chose to go, I personally wouldn't call them "silly".

Livia 19-03-2015 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 7647099)
Yeah I know all that :umm2: my point is when you have children you have responsibilities and taking them on holiday to a country where there is unrest especially an Islamic one, and it is surrounded by other countries where there is unrest is unwise imo.

Tunisia has always been surrounded by Algeria and Libya and people have taken their kids there because it's cheap even though Arab Spring started in Tunisia. If they don't want to now, that's their choice. I'm not insisting they go.

Kizzy 19-03-2015 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7647100)
It only happened yesterday, of course the government is being cautious. If people chose to go, I personally wouldn't call them "silly".

It is silly, if there is a governmental warning in place then the threat level has been lifted significantly in that specific area. If the threat was as immediate and severe in the tourist destinations of Egypt I'm sure the advise would be the same.

Cherie 19-03-2015 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7647104)
Tunisia has always been surrounded by Algeria and Libya and people have taken their kids there because it's cheap even though Arab Spring started in Tunisia. If they don't want to now, that's their choice. I'm not insisting they go.


No you are not insisting they go, you are saying it is playing into the terrorists hands not to go as the terrorist intention is to sink the Tunisian economy which relies heavily on tourism, and whilst that is all well and good some people have other factors to take into consideration, personally I would go, but I wouldn't take my kids, I have never taken them to Egypt either for similar reasons.

arista 19-03-2015 12:53 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...6770849304.jpg
[Briton Sally Jane Adey, 57, was killed in the attack while on a holiday cruise
which had docked in Tunis while on holiday with her husband Rob, who survived]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3Uq73vk00

Livia 19-03-2015 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7647143)
It is silly, if there is a governmental warning in place then the threat level has been lifted significantly in that specific area. If the threat was as immediate and severe in the tourist destinations of Egypt I'm sure the advise would be the same.

Of course there's a government warning it only happened yesterday. I am fully aware of the dangers of hostile environments, spending a significant amount of my working time in Israel, so a couple of random gunmen in Tunisia will not stop me going there. But thanks for stating the obvious in case there are any idiots reading this.

arista 19-03-2015 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Germyle (Post 7646708)
Someone I know flew out to Tunisia today :worry:



I hope they have a Great Time.


At least now 4 others arrested
that knew of these 2 killers

Kizzy 19-03-2015 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7647253)
Of course there's a government warning it only happened yesterday. I am fully aware of the dangers of hostile environments, spending a significant amount of my working time in Israel, so a couple of random gunmen in Tunisia will not stop me going there. But thanks for stating the obvious in case there are any idiots reading this.

Yes it did only happen yesterday so to plough ahead with any plans to go before the threat has been fully assessed would indeed be silly. Having to go somewhere on business is slightly different from families choosing to go to an area with terrorist activity on holiday atm.
Nobody knows if the attack was 'random' yet do they?
To be forewarned it to be four armed... and all four of my arms would be cancelling my flights.

billy123 19-03-2015 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7646975)
More reason to holiday in the UK

No its not.
More reason to holiday there unless you want them to have the desired effect.
People shouldn't wimp out.
Fearmongering is how these gimps work. I am due to be in Tunisia for work in September and have no reservations about going ahead with my visit and will be combining business with pleasure.
Tunisia is a fantastic place.

Livia 19-03-2015 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7647282)
No its not.
More reason to holiday there unless you want them to have the desired effect.
People shouldn't wimp out.
Fearmongering is how these gimps work. I am due to be in Tunisia for work in September and have no reservations about going ahead with my visit and will be combining business with pleasure.
Tunisia is a fantastic place.

Quite right Bob.

Kizzy 19-03-2015 02:17 PM

Would you take your children bob?

Northern Monkey 19-03-2015 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 7647153)
No you are not insisting they go, you are saying it is playing into the terrorists hands not to go as the terrorist intention is to sink the Tunisian economy which relies heavily on tourism, and whilst that is all well and good some people have other factors to take into consideration, personally I would go, but I wouldn't take my kids, I have never taken them to Egypt either for similar reasons.

Me too.I was in Cairo and Luxor not long before the trouble started over there.I remember seeing the news over there and some Christians were shot while we were there.
I would'nt take my family to Cairo at the moment and specially not Tunisia.I would take them somewhere on the Red Sea but not to the inner cities just yet.I would go with friends but not my misses or kids.

billy123 19-03-2015 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7647294)
Would you take your children bob?

Yes absolutely have taken my stepdaughter in the past and would again. Why do you ask?
have you ever taken your kids to London? Have you ever taken your kids to Manchester?

arista 19-03-2015 02:23 PM

Its now Confirmed
this was a Isis Attack.

Kizzy 19-03-2015 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7647297)
Yes absolutely have taken my stepdaughter in the past and would again. Why do you ask?
have you ever taken your kids to London? Have you ever taken your kids to Manchester?

There was no issue in the past...The question is now under the current conditions would you at the moment?

billy123 19-03-2015 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7647309)
There was no issue in the past...The question is now under the current conditions would you at the moment?

I think i answered that in my previous post.
The question stands would you take your kids to London or Manchester?
Yes i would.

billy123 19-03-2015 02:37 PM

The Tragic incident in Tunisia will and is being hijacked by the right wingers to try and spread fear and to try and further their racist agenda.
Transparent and idiotic in equal measures.

kirklancaster 19-03-2015 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7647297)
Yes absolutely have taken my stepdaughter in the past and would again. Why do you ask?
have you ever taken your kids to London? Have you ever taken your kids to Manchester?

:clap1: Excellent reasoning. It is probably as safe in Tunisia as anywhere.

Kizzy 19-03-2015 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7647315)
The question stands would you take your kids to London or Manchester?
Yes i would.

Of course I would, nobody has walked into a museum and shot dead a room full of people have they? So it's not even slightly comparable....

The deaths in Tunis are real and if you feel that it's worth the risk to go at this moment in time fair play, personally if I were responsible for the safety of others I wouldn't right now.

billy123 19-03-2015 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 7647327)
:clap1: Excellent reasoning. It is probably as safe in Tunisia as anywhere.

Thank you Kirk.
Glad to see you posting. We Probably got off to as bad a start on here as is possible :laugh: But i accept that is down to me. Im an argumentative bugger even when im wrong.
I never hold a grudge with anyone and hopefully you can just brush me off when im annoying you too. :joker:
There i wanted to tell you that for a while now :)
Your input on tibb is much appreciated.

billy123 19-03-2015 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7647331)
Of course I would, nobody has walked into a museum and shot dead a room full of people have they? So it's not even slightly comparable....

The deaths in Tunis are real and if you feel that it's worth the risk to go at this moment in time fair play, personally if I were responsible for the safety of others I wouldn't right now.

And no group of suicide bombers have walked onto a bunch of trains and and a bus and killed themselves lots of other innocent people in Tunisia either.
Whats the difference? Was that not real?

Kizzy 19-03-2015 02:52 PM

The difference is we don't have the same level of religious and economic tension at the moment.


'Political situation

Tunisia has experienced unprecedented political and social change since its revolution in January 2011. Legislative elections took place in October 2014, and Beji Caid Essebsi became the country’s first democratically elected President in December 2014. A new government was approved in parliament on 5 February 2015.

'Demonstrations sparked by political, religious or economic tensions may still occur. They can happen at any time and anywhere. Most protests are peaceful but some have affected key services and there are occasional incidents of violence and damage to property. There have also been incidents of protest on major roads designed to cause traffic delays and disruption. While demonstrations are not normally aimed at foreigners, international events can trigger anti-western protests.'

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-ad...y-and-security


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