Rape by fraud?
 

So you tell a woman or man that you're a city banker instead of telling them you actually work in Maccy D's so they'll sleep with you.
Is this rape?
Well according to some feminists it should be illegal and a prisonable offence called 'rape by fraud'


What do you think?Is this 'rape by fraud'? Or just some crazy women wanting revenge for being lied to?

Sounds ligit

What? I can't see the vid but that sounds really mercenary.

according to some idiots would be more accurate I think

If some woman sleeps with a man only because she thinks he is wealthy/a big city banker then that just makes her incredibly shallow. She still willingly slept with the man, regardless, he never forced her to sleep with him. So no, just some crazy bitches looking for something else to whine about.

LOL... Because it's OK to have sex with someone you otherwise wouldn't be interested in, because you believe them to be rich.

IMO if anyone gets involved with someone, presumably pretending to like or love them, purely to get their hands on that person's money... THAT should be considered fraud. No?

pretty much this

Agreed with Ben.

It's fraud from the woman trying to sleep with the man, there's no rape involved though.:joker:

Seriously some feminists need help if this is their stances on things, and the man hating has got to stop too.:umm2:

Misandry isn't cool.

The example about pretending you're a CitiBank Banker, which is what I think Eyeball Paul was referring to, would not be a prosecutorial case under any rape by fraud law for two reasons....

1. "Reasonable" behavior is required of any victim in any criminal action. Jumping into bed with someone you just met would not pass the litmus test of "reasonable" behavior. If a person does not take reasonable measures to protect them self, no law will protect them. I can only assume, in this example, that the person has conducted no due diligence to establish the facts. If, despite the victim's "reasonable" efforts to protect them self, the offender induces sex through the use of a hoax, sexaul assault, not seduction, is taking place.

2. Substantial proof is needed to prosecute any crime. Sexual Assault by Fraud is no different. You need to convince the police, the Prosecutor, the Grand Jury, the Judge and a jury of your peers, that a crime indeed took place. This is a pretty high bar of proof. Simply a "he-said, she'said" won't do the trick.

if it's rape, then it's also rape for a woman to wear a wonder bra or spanx or a ton of make-up. So many men go home with women when it's dark and he's had a few drinks and he thinks he's going to bed with a gorgeous woman with big breast and a slim waist. only to wake up the next morning and see the truth...

Or kirklancaster, or LeatherTrumpet...

There is not one
& thread has no link?

Thats weird.Works on my phone.Just something i saw on YT and could'nt believe what i was seeing.
http://youtu.be/47cxdpL34wo

What sounds mercenary by the way? Pretending to be rich to get someone to have sex with you, or having sex with someone because you believe them to be rich? It sounds about even to me. These people are made for each other :joker:.

happened to me many of a times.


but at the end of the day a key to this happening is alcohol as it effects your judgement.

telling porkys is one thing but you have to think where am i ? is this person telling the truth ? is my judgment in the correct frame to make the correct choice. sadly that is what matters most.

my biggest porky was when this tune came on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYoo4mFWCcQ and i told the lovely lady i was with - this song was wrote on me :joker:

:joker: :joker: :joker:

Lol.Back in the nineties i had a mate who used to tell chicks he had a Golf GTI.That was enough back then:laugh:

Simpler times! "Hey baby, I've got a Nokia 3210, wanna play with my snake?"

A shiney pikachu trading card was good enough for a blowjob when I was a teenager.

someone delete this thread before The Truth sees it and has a seizure

:joker::joker:

It's called an "orgasm", LT.

The girl, women know men always exaggerate to get a date, a guy once told me he had a capri then picked me up in a battered austin princess ;)
Half the fun is uncovering the little fibs :laugh:

If they consent to having sex under certain conditions and then it turns out they will be having sex under conditions they did not agree to.. that is rape.

And if they have sex with a man because they think he is rich hoping to benefit from that fact by providing sexual favours, that is prostitution. Surely?

Conditions, what conditions? it's sex not a proposal of marriage, there's no contract to be signed.

I would also point out Josh, that if what youre saying is taken as true, then any woman who has sex with a man who has not seen her without make-up on is "raping him".

It's nonsense. People lie about all sorts of things. The correct course of action is, only have sex with someone if you feel sexually attracted to them and want to have sex. No ulterior motives. Then it isn't a problem.

In this scenario the conditions would be that they would be having sex 'because he is wealthy' and so that is what they agreed to. Whether or not that is morally correct is another argument, but I would say that this would be rape. Not as severe as other types but rape nonetheless.

Not at all. In the situation mentioned the person explicitly told a lie for sex. If a guy has not seen a woman without makeup and has sex with them, it would only technically be rape if she lied about what she looked like without makeup or something like that.

It wasn't rape in any sense of the word.

No-one is forcing these women to jump into bed with them, if they want to get it on with someone because they think they're rich or successful but in reality the guy isn't, then more fool them and their shallowness imo.

:joker: :joker: :joker:

The thread that keeps on giving.

I'm going to bookmark this one.

I will agree with you ONLY on the premise that the woman has explicitly stated before engaging in sexual intercourse that they are only doing it because they believe the man to be wealthy.

Which is a technicality; I doubt that has happened very often, if ever.

Isn't rape when you force someone have sex with you against their will?? Regardless of what either one said to each other beforehand, so long as they both consented then I don't see how it could be classified as rape. Perhaps it's morally questionable to lie about such a thing to try and get someone to sleep with you but so long as he doesn't use that reason as an excuse to 'push' or 'force' himself onto her - physically or mentally - and she fully accepts the sex, then I guess I don't really see an actual legal problem here.

and is it rape if it's the other way round and it's the woman who lied? :think:

Josh I can't believe someone actually agreed with this :laugh:

It ain't rape - it's prostitution.

Also all you people comparing it to a woman wearing make up instead of a like for like situation as if a man would never sleep with a woman because he was after her money

Fair point, lots of cougars around these days :joker:

#justiceforgolddiggers