I'm not comfortable with this
 

Marc the only one speaking up when all the other housemates were standing round Simon having a dig :clap1:

Well payed to him but not for asking Sam if she takes it up the bum.

yet he's comfortable with making others feel uncomfortable

i don't get him

I caught the end of the show. Just saw him call Chloe "phat" by which he meant fat.

So he's told her she's going for an STI test and now called her fat. But hey, I guess if you say "Only joking" in a funny accent you can get away with that.

It ironic Marc thinking Simon was being bullied when Marc is the biggest bully in there

what about the past big brother housemates using racial slurs in the house?big brother didn't do jack **** but just kept them in the house.

Quite true

Good on Marc.

He's saying everything I've been saying all evening

Saying a lewd or controversial comment about someone to their face is completely different to a group of people systematically, verbally attacking someone who is isolated.

Thank goodness for a voice of reason.

I had practically just said before hand I don't like how they are all standing round him picking at him then Marc piped up.

Marc is not that bad of a person imo!

Stop talking such bull crap:nono:

Looks to me like forum members are looking for a V.I.C.T.I.M. again.

there are 3 or 4 of the old house mates that have become a little pack of hunting dogs. I don't like it. The word bully is thrown around so often at the least thing. The pack are bullies. Mark is aggressive and uncouth but he is not a bully, there is a big big difference

How would you know, thought you had stopped watching :fan:

Or they just discovered Simon saying one thing to a persons face and another in the diary room and challenged him on it. I'd take your own advice on throwing the word about too often.

Oh you mean like 99.9% of ALL BB housemates do every single series.

I caught some of the show and have repeatedly said I'm keeping up with it on the forums and the site. I see you're incapable of arguing a point again.

Seriously, the need of viewers of this show to find some poor isolated victim so they can feel morally superior by coming to his protection and condemning those who are called "bullies" has always rubbed me up the wrong way.

You didnt watch it did you? They were all aligned togerher, taking turns to have pot shots at him, egging each other on. That is pack mentality.

If you are going to constructively comment on the forum, at least watch the program

Really, saying to Chloe that she is going to win and will deserve it and then going to the diary room and saying she would be undeserving because she's lazy (which apparently she's not)? And all this after she was one of the people who comforted him when he was under attack previously. I can't think of many housemates who have been that blatant.

But hey, 99.9% of HMs do that apparently :shrug:

I'm perfectly capable of arguing a point when someone is replying to me with a counter argument, you are going on about the bully word being thrown around and so on, I never called anyone bullies.

And of course you only caught some of the show.

You mean Simon ?

He needs to grow some backbone.

Says he felt he couldn't say it to Chloe's face.
Shows he cares about her.
But if you're gonna say things, don't suddenly pull back just cos the flack is there.

Doesn't make his case well.
Can't believe how easy he backed down tonight.

I'm going on about the need of forum members to find a victim. You are doing that. You're also trying to make Marc out to be saint when he's calling girls fat. Insulting and demeaning remarks justified with the excuse of "banter"

I am in no way trying to make Mark look like anything, I have also said that some of the things he says is out of order.

And no I'm not trying to find a victim, I'm posting my opinion on what I see so how about you stop attempting to tell me what I'm doing.

I personally hate to see a group mentality and would have to speak up if I was present during a situation like that, I find it admirable of Marc that he said exactly what I was thinking.

I would have agreed until he jumped into bed with Sam on tonights show. Earlier in that day, someone (I forget who) took Marc to one side and warned him to go easy with Sam because she was falling for him. Marc acted surprised and said words to the effect that he wouldn't lead Sam on....

....then he jumps into bed with her and has a snog.

The guys a rat.

It was good to see Marc speaking up when all the HM's getting on at Simon.

It was essentially Chloe vs. Simon and it involved him being caught out by others saying one thing and then saying the exact opposite. Something he's already been caught out doing with Eileen.

Was Nasty Nick being treated badly when Craig and co. were talking to him at the table?

It wasn't Chloe vs Simon, come on :laugh:

The whole meeting in the store room about how they would reveal it, gathering all the housemates together (Joel) Jack whispering about it to the other housemates etc then them all standing there having their say and Chloe calling him names etc.

And the Nasty Nick thing isn't relevant here IMO.

What a hero he is you know apart from the lewd comments and name calling and threats. Top bloke.

Glad you can see him for the good housemate he is.

Nah plants don't do it for me sorry

It quite clearly was. The others were there to clarify what was said in the diary room so he couldn't lie.

After he had betrayed her just as he had done with Eileen. Is she not allowed to feel pissed off by him saying what he did. Are the others not right to bring it up when he does this for a second time and be there to back Chloe up who he has been lying to the face of whilst pretending to be a friend.

Actually it was SAM who got in bed with Marc,he was in bed a bit worse for the wear and she got in.:shrug:

Think Danny's comment was code for

"We're all in a cosy group here, we don't like being challenged and we'll turn on individuals as 1 group if they do."

Still, I don't really see it as "victim".
Simon's intentions are admirable he just isn't strong enough.

If BB want to shake the house up, task team need to think outside the box just as much as new HMs thrown in to take them on.

What is admirable about saying one thing to a persons face and then going to the diary room and saying the exact opposite?

Of course Chloes allowed to be pissed off but if you want to confront someone there is the adult way of doing it, she was really excited about doing it with her friends though, like when she said 'right when are you all doing it, I can't wait'

Absolute Legend that Marc :joker:

I'm glad someone stood up for Simon tbh. Just seeing it on screen...all of the HMs standing in a line glaring at him...it was horrid.

He never even said anything bad about Chloe in the DR for such a fuss to be made. And LOL at them all making out they are exactly the same in the DR as outside of it :D

She felt it was their call because they had the information. Was it the right way to go about confronting him? Perhaps not. But to start saying it makes you uncomfortable like you're witnessing some sort of terrible example of injustice strikes me as over the top. The irritant got caught out lying again and the HMs are fed up with him. They don't seem the sort to me to subject him to a sustained level of abuse and they didn't.

What do you mean "betrayed" ?
It's a gameshow is it not ?
Even if he did "lie" (personally think it's confused and misunderstood) what's your point ?
They're all meant to be 1 big happy family ?

You say
Hang on...
Didn't Chloe agree with Eileen he was the "bad person".
Yet then gave some twaddle about supporting Simon after the Eileen incident ?

Yes, people can say what they like.
But let's not be selective over who's right and wrong.
Chloe is just as 2 faced as Simon here.

Think Josy makes a good point.
Fact they held a meeting AS A GROUP and spoke as a group says it all.

Sure they can do that if they like. (and maybe felt they had to)
But then don't give us guff about "tell me to my face" when they're not prepared to go it alone as individuals.

She felt betrayed. And this "it's a game show" nonsense used to justify people behaving like creeps is rather bizarre to me.

Who said that? He was simply caught out for a second time saying one thing to a persons face and the opposite in the diary room. It's people who think he shouldn't be confronted on this who seem to think they should all be playing happy families.



He didn't disagree with that, so I'm prepared to believe that she did do that regardless of one moment in a highly edited show that might suggest otherwise.

No, she is not.

It doesn't say anything.

What has going it alone got to do with telling people to their face?