Emma was spot on yesterday about Cristian and danny.
 

"You moan they are boring and then when they actually do stuff they still get moaned about being fake and not being their boring self. They can't win"
Spot on from willis.
Also people who say "It's five weeks in"
Who the hell cares if its five weeks in before they started coming out their shells, don't act like that doesn't always happen in a BB series?

Such an overreaction. They can't win. Been the centre or close for the last four days and still they get moaned at for not being boring and their normal selves but then they do stay quiet and be their nice composed self they get labelled a bore? They can't win.

When Sam Harry and Chloe do **** all in that house. Have they actually done anything without marc, no they have not.

Some people seem to have more energy to moan than try and focus on the parts they enjoy.

Of course, there will always be some who don't enjoy any of it, but still love to switch on each night to see what else they can ridicule.


I think it's the nature of the Internet these days.

Saw that too, Emma was lovely about him. She said everything that I had felt.

I've also noticed that people think you don't have a personality if you're not aggressive and rude and use that very dumb phrase "say it like it is" :rolleyes:

Emma was good to stick up for Christian....he is getting more involved and he speaks the truth. Emma also put Jade right on the sexual innuendo and that what she did to Christian would be seen as sexual.
....and then Jade still used that as her reason. Silly mare. Glad she's gone..she was falling under the witches spell.

I was thinking that the other day. A lot of double standards for housemates. I also liked what Emma said about housemates not having to be a big character to deserve to be in the house. Not everyone goes on the show to entertain an audience or to get attention. I don't like these particular housemates, but most people have more than one aspect to them and if expected all housemates to be exactly the same through the whole process it would be stupid.

Danny's always been boring. Even when he shouts. He's just a weasel. He'll never be entertaining. He's a knob, with no personality, intelligence, and severe anger issues with a hidden nasty streak.

Cristian was actually nice, and not that boring in Week 1 and 2. But now, he's piped up, and he comes across really fake and desperate. I don't find fake drama entertaining. Therefore, he's boring me now and also annoying me. Same way I don't find Marc entertaining.

If Cristian goes back to the way he was in Week 1 and 2, then I'm sure he'll gain a lot of the fans he had, including myself.

Only Jack has been true to himself

Agree Emma really went to town as well. Loved it when she said if she had people continually in her face telling her she was boring etc she would have flipped. Really bigged him up.

I am loving Cristian, he is intelligent and speaks a lot of sense. He doesn't argue for the sake of it. He argues when he feels he needs to defend himself or when he feels he needs to make a point. He has said he doesn't involve himself in others arguments if it is nothing to do with him. Also love the fact that he is giving Marc back some of his own medicine so to speak. Now he knows what it feels like.

He was right about Jade. The evidence is there in clips and tweets from BBLive. She was just bitter that she had been exposed. Anyone that has to resort to name calling to defend themselves in an argument has lost it.

In what instance was he fake and desperate. I think any arguments he had he stayed very calm and had very valid points. He wasn't arguing for the sake of arguing.

To be fair Christian kept himself to himself...he has upped his game after being told countless times he is a fence sitter. Nothing wrong with that...he doesn't like controversy and it's not in his nature but now when he does speak up he speaks the truth.
He has called Jade out...he called Joel out twice last night..he has called Helen and Marc out. Good for him. Hopefully he will leave the house a more confident person.

So it was just a coincidence that he decided to tell everyone some "home truths" right after he was put up for eviction and being called boring numerous times?

What about last nights highlights, when we practically saw him running up and down to everyone and trying to pick fights and then walking away?
Jade, Joel, and Helen being clear examples of this.

I highly doubt he would've done that if he wasn't up for eviction or being branded boring.

You also say he wasn't fake.
Remember the way he decided to jump on the "Lets attack Jade bandwagon", whilst she was nominated for being a bed-hopper?
She was being attacked by Danny, only for Cristian to jump in and also attack her.

If he had a problem with her flirting. Why didn't he tell her ages ago in Week 2? Instead of waiting till someone else confronted her about it, so he could also jump in and do the same. Cause he was being fake. He used that opportunity to get a bit of air time and threw Jade under the bus. His input was unnecessary.

Plus, people in the house are saying the same thing and they live with him. And I'm beginning to see it too.

Because it's fake

Yes I think it will be the making of him. He has obviously gone through a lot in his short life that has probably caused his insecurities etc and I admire him not playing up to that and just getting on with things. He could quite easily have used his sob story to good effect but hasn't chosen to. he just tends to get on with whatever is thrown at him. Good for him.

I think Marc was right.

Cristian's attempts at being entertaining and leaping around the bedroom were cringy to watch.

It wasn't natural fun and it reeked of desperation.

Exactly. Emma kinda needs to pipe down. Don't be boring, but when you try and act entertaining, don't make us want to scratch our eyes out with cringe overload.

Pretty much this.

He was entertaining in Week 1 and 2, when he was actually being genuine, and stuck up for himself when he needed to, without raising his voice.

Now he's just acting smug and cocky. Comes across like a knobhead, IMO.

With regard Jade there are numerous clips, highlights and tweets to confirm that he made it blatantly clear. He just stated facts, Jade had no cone back and so resorted to name calling. Always a sign you have lost the argument.

With the Joel argument Joel instigated everything and he responded. It was not difficult to see that Joel had distanced himself and it was apparent through clips etc that they had been good friends. Funny when it came to him nominating Joel was right back sitting beside him talking to him.

So Marc does it all the time and it is fun. Cristian does it purely to get his own back and give Marc a taste of what it is like and how annoying it can be and it is clingy and desperate.....ok

Not using your alt account Smiler today??

Urgh i'm tired of this forum sometimes.
How can standing up for yourself be fake because you wern't a loud mouth from day 1? Wow

This ^^^^
Mark is suffering a bad case of jealousy regarding Cristian so he likes to take the p and try and belittle him.

Spot on and it's blatantly obvious. There is something about Cristian that really bugs Marc and I can't decide whether it is jealousy or he has a bit of a crush on him. :wink::think:

Emma probably thought this herself

Lol because people want hms who are genuinely entertaining not people who stay under the radar because they think they'll float to the final then when people start calling them out for being bores they suddenly change their tactics and start trying to be controversial.

I don't often disagree with Emma but I did last night on her point about the need for a variety of housemates.

Sure, we do need a diverse bunch of characters of different backgrounds, ages, ethnicities, sexualities, some arseholes, some nice etc. But we do not need ****ing bores that coast along and fly under the radar never saying a word only to end up in the final undeservingly over someone else who has brought a lot more to the series, and in some cases even win the bloody thing.

There's a misconception that those who usually champion the ~entertaining characters~ only like endless drama, and that isn't true. You can be a nice person and bring different things to the show such as humour and other storylines that don't necessarily have to include drama. Take Mark last year for example, a decent enough guy I'd say...I liked him because I thought he was ****ing hilarious. Jack this year also, not really a ****, but still brings a lot to the show with his ridiculous aggressive outbursts. Even Joel really, nice guy...but still appears to play a role in the series. Same applies to Brian and Nikki, never known as horrible characters really but both legendary housemates in their own right.

While the argument that we need a good balance of housemates is correct, it is not an excuse for radar divers that literally say and do nothing all series long. You can be 'nice' and still contribute to the show, but if 'nice' is all you are - then **** off.

However, on the subject of Cristian himself being criticised inside the house regarding the Marc incident - I do agree he can't win. I would rather he continue to act up, yes it is fake but it's a hell of a lot more interesting than the Cristian who never says a word and is a complete waste of a housemate space. But yes, in the house it does seem like he can't win.

Christians was a snake the other night with jade that's why he's not liked as much. Doing that to her and then telling her it wasn't personal or sexual the day after. As for Emma saying you can see how that looks with a young lad, ffs he was eyeing the women op the women from day one. Why did he slide in behind her in the bath when he could have gone to the other end?
He's a snake!

Well they could always just be themselves instead of keeping quiet to stay until the final or being overly argumentative for camera time

Yeah this basically

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Not everyone is a marc.

Or just maybe he is a calm collected person that had been pushed so far that week that he flipped and told people what he thought of them. Simple as that. Maybe he doesn't feel he has to be a fake performing seal every day like Marc. Now him you can see right through.There is a difference in being entertaining or fake manufactured entertainment which is what Marc is doing.

Some arguments and aggression can be just as tedious as being a bore tbf.

Thankfully. What a clown prancing around in his tight pants that are several sizes too small for him.

People wouldn't complain if they went from boring to fun.. I'd imagine people are moaning because they went from boring to angry.

I'm starting to like Danny. He's a good friend to Cristian and he stood up to Marc/Helen. :love:

I think most people would have got angry after having people repeatedly tell you how boring you were and constantly trying to annoy you by hurling insults, pouring water over you etc. it would be enough to try the patience of a saint to be honest.

I am a bit sceptical about Danny. I think he is out for himself and what will make him look good. I just get that feeling that everything he does is premeditated. Only a couple of weeks ago he had Cristian lined up as a nomination target when the originals had gone. I just don't trust him. Maybe I am wrong.