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ConnieLingus 28-06-2015 01:28 AM

Is it worse to say someone "LOOKS" like a murderer, or threaten to attempt murder?
 
Who is worse?

Helen saying that the twitching, fuming face of Brian made him LOOK like a murderer?

Or

Danny threatening to shove a glass into Marc's face, potentially killing him, and certainly disfiguring him for life?

Wizard. 28-06-2015 01:30 AM

Exactly! How ridiculous is it that people think Helen is worse?!?! Danny should go to hell.

BB4fan 28-06-2015 01:32 AM

Yeah Danny is utter filth.

abhorson 28-06-2015 01:33 AM

None. They are both angels and bright lights of our society along with Marc. The new Tim Hunt of womens science decorum.

Gees.

Withano 28-06-2015 01:40 AM

I mean.. To answer your question, it is worse to threaten to attempt murder..

But if we're talking about Helen the other night or Danny tonight (which I presume you are) Then they were both bad...
Although we saw all of Dannys argument and only an edited down version of Helens antagonising so logic tells me that Helen was worse because relentless and constant bullying is worse than a 10 second aggressive spurt. I don't think anybody is able to answer without seeing both clips in full though.

JamesBond 28-06-2015 01:50 AM

Unless Helen threatened physical violence I think its clear cut no matter what was edited.

Name calling is not even in the same league as threatening to physically harm someone. If you call someone a name the police can't arrest you, however they can in the case of a violent threat.

ConnieLingus 28-06-2015 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7938779)
I mean.. To answer your question, it is worse to threaten to attempt murder..

But if we're talking about Helen the other night or Danny tonight (which I presume you are) Then they were both bad...
Although we saw all of Dannys argument and only an edited down version of Helens antagonising so logic tells me that Helen was worse because relentless and constant bullying is worse than a 10 second aggressive spurt. I don't think anybody is able to answer without seeing both clips in full though.

You're excusing someone threatening to stab another housemate by saying that Helen had a bad edit?

I don't like to break it to you, but Danny was shown threatening to shove a glass in Marc's face. No amount of Helen's editing changed that.

How does a bad edit for Helen change the fact that Danny (potentially) threatened to attempt to murder Marc?

Withano 28-06-2015 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConnieLingus (Post 7938789)
You're excusing someone threatening to stab another housemate by saying that Helen had a bad edit?

I don't like to break it to you, but Danny was shown threatening to shove a glass in Marc's face. No amount of Helen's editing changed that.

How does a bad edit for Helen change the fact that Danny (potentially) threatened to attempt to murder Marc?

I don't actually remember Danny saying that? and BB certainly didn't read it back to him? Cant be bothered to check but are you sure you aren't confusing this with something to do with a slap?

Jack_ 28-06-2015 01:55 AM

Yeah did he actually mention a glass? I thought he just said 'I'll give you a slap' (or words to that effect)? :shrug:

abhorson 28-06-2015 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConnieLingus (Post 7938789)
You're excusing someone threatening to stab another housemate by saying that Helen had a bad edit?

I don't like to break it to you, but Danny was shown threatening to shove a glass in Marc's face. No amount of Helen's editing changed that.

How does a bad edit for Helen change the fact that Danny (potentially) threatened to attempt to murder Marc?

Does it upset you that Danny is still the clear favourite to win BB then. I understand. But it must show that the rest are more useless. Don't you think?

Wizard. 28-06-2015 01:56 AM

I've complained to Ofcom- I really felt the need to. His behaviour was uneasing.

Jack_ 28-06-2015 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley95 (Post 7938795)
I've complained to Ofcom- I really felt the need to. His behaviour was uneasing.

You do realise that Ofcom can't make any executive production decisions don't you? All complaining to Ofcom does is increase the likelihood of incidents like this being covered up, because they monitor and control what can and cannot be broadcast.

If you have an issue with the way the show is produced or incidents like that, complain directly to Endemol or C5.

That goes for anyone who wants to complain. Ofcom complaints are futile and are actually detrimental to the shows integrity.

JamesBond 28-06-2015 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7938794)
Does it upset you that Danny is still the clear favourite to win BB then. I understand. But it must show that the rest are more useless. Don't you think?

He's not going to win after that performance.

reece(: 28-06-2015 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley95 (Post 7938795)
I've complained to Ofcom- I really felt the need to. His behaviour was uneasing.

They aren't going to remove him :facepalm:

JeanP! 28-06-2015 02:00 AM

Danny is a douche

abhorson 28-06-2015 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 7938799)
He's not going to win after that performance.

Why?

Jack_ 28-06-2015 02:01 AM

With every day that passes, Danny becomes more likely to win this series to be honest. Sadly.

Although actually he's been less of a bore recently so

JamesBond 28-06-2015 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7938797)
You do realise that Ofcom can't make any executive production decisions don't you? All complaining to Ofcom does is increase the likelihood of incidents like this being covered up, because they monitor and control what can and cannot be broadcast.

If you have an issue with the way the show is produced or incidents like that, complain directly to Endemol or C5.

That goes for anyone who wants to complain. Ofcom complaints are futile and are actually detrimental to the shows integrity.

Clearly its the other way round, C5 would have more to gain with a cover up where as Ofcom would just investigate without an hidden agenda.

abhorson 28-06-2015 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeanP! (Post 7938801)
Danny is a douche

So are all of them. But which douche, do you want to win?

Sorry. Just seen Marc under your avatar. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wizard. 28-06-2015 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7938797)
You do realise that Ofcom can't make any executive production decisions don't you? All complaining to Ofcom does is increase the likelihood of incidents like this being covered up, because they monitor and control what can and cannot be broadcast.

If you have an issue with the way the show is produced or incidents like that, complain directly to Endemol or C5.

That goes for anyone who wants to complain. Ofcom complaints are futile and are actually detrimental to the shows integrity.

How do you complain to CHANNEL 5?

ConnieLingus 28-06-2015 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7938791)
I don't actually remember Danny saying that? and BB certainly didn't read it back to him? Cant be bothered to check but are you sure you aren't confusing this with something to do with a slap?

Danny said (during the argument with Marc about him asking Nick if he (Nick) wanted to win), "If you had asked me that, I'd have shoved that glass in your face". Marc said, "No you wouldn't".

You are correct that BB didn't read it back to him. Shame on the cowards who didn't want to eject the hero.

JamesBond 28-06-2015 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Riley95 (Post 7938806)
How do you complain to CHANNEL 5?

Complain to both to be on the safe side.

This should help

https://help.channel5.com/hc/en-gb/a...omer-Services-

Jack_ 28-06-2015 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 7938804)
Clearly its the other way round, C5 would have more to gain with a cover up where as Ofcom would just investigate without an hidden agenda.

Not really, incidents like this are exactly what the producers want. Yes they have to warn the people involved, but any ~drama~ or incidents which are likely to cause controversy or just get some press attention are good for the show and things that they, and Channel 5, will absolutely want to broadcast.

The more people that complain to Ofcom, the more likely it is we'll have another Justin Waggott incident on our hands where it's covered up since they'll rule that the things they are showing are not fit for broadcast, and not only will the quality and standard of the show drop to something fit for CBBC, but its integrity will also be compromised since they will be hiding things more than ever, and when we don't have 24/7 live feed, that's even more detrimental than it is now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley95 (Post 7938806)
How do you complain to CHANNEL 5?

Now that I don't know, because I would never complain :laugh: but have a browse around the website, I'm sure there's a feedback form, or maybe even find out the controllers email address? It'll be their name @channel5 or something idk

abhorson 28-06-2015 02:10 AM

Makes me frigging scream. When people complain to OFCOM over BB. People should know what to expect.

Complain about serious ****.

Withano 28-06-2015 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConnieLingus (Post 7938812)
Danny said (during the argument with Marc about him asking Nick if he (Nick) wanted to win), "If you had asked me that, I'd have shoved that glass in your face". Marc said, "No you wouldn't".

You are correct that BB didn't read it back to him. Shame on the cowards who didn't want to eject the hero.

They didn't read it back because he said "If I were pissed, that pasta would go in your face" Not quite the death threat you screamed about!

ConnieLingus 28-06-2015 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7938866)
They didn't read it back because he said "If I were pissed, that pasta would go in your face" Not quite the death threat you screamed about!

Yeeeeeaaaaah! That's what he said. :cheer2:

Withano 28-06-2015 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConnieLingus (Post 7938869)
Yeeeeeaaaaah! That's what he said. :cheer2:

I made a thread about something I misheard too the other week! :laugh: He was out of line and deserved the warning but he really wasn't that bad!

BB4fan 28-06-2015 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley95 (Post 7938795)
I've complained to Ofcom- I really felt the need to. His behaviour was uneasing.


He's already sealed his fate. He isn't winning.

Ammi 28-06-2015 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConnieLingus (Post 7938765)
Who is worse?

Helen saying that the twitching, fuming face of Brian made him LOOK like a murderer?

Or

Danny threatening to shove a glass into Marc's face, potentially killing him, and certainly disfiguring him for life?

...when did Danny say this..?../I don't recall this...

Withano 28-06-2015 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 7938981)
...when did Danny say this..?../I don't recall this...

He didn't

Ammi 28-06-2015 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7938984)
He didn't

..oh this was a 'hypothetical'/type thing then...sorry, I've just woken up/a bit sleepy and hadn't read through the thread, just the OP...

ThriceShy 28-06-2015 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7938984)
He didn't

No but he did threaten to slap him twice then actually throw things at him.

He also did say that if he was drunk then he would put the bowl of pasta in marcs face.

Why can't he have an argument without violence being involved?

Ammi 28-06-2015 05:07 AM

....hmmm, I'm not excusing or condoning Danny's behaviour at all...but Marc's whole stance was completely different with him and completely passive aggressive as opposed to how he had been with the females, Chloe and Aisleyne...he really does just 'pick on the weaker'..or what he perceives as weaker because I think he sees females generally as 'weaker'....


...his whole questioning was just dumb because there is not one of them including himself that wouldn't want to win this...also slightly off topic I know but to call someone a liar when they've sworn on their Mother's grave about something is fairly grim, he should have dropped it all at that point...mind you I think that swearing on a life or grave is a pretty childish thing to do as well, why would anyone feel the need to do that..if they fully believe that what they're saying is the truth then that's all that is needed...

ThriceShy 28-06-2015 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 7939006)
....hmmm, I'm not excusing or condoning Danny's behaviour at all...but Marc's whole stance was completely different with him and completely passive aggressive as opposed to how he had been with the females, Chloe and Aisleyne...he really does just 'pick on the weaker'..or what he perceives as weaker because I think he sees females generally as 'weaker'....


...his whole questioning was just dumb because there is not one of them including himself that wouldn't want to win this...also slightly off topic I know but to call someone a liar when they've sworn on their Mother's grave about something is fairly grim, he should have dropped it all at that point...mind you I think that swearing on a life or grave is a pretty childish thing to do as well, why would anyone feel the need to do that..if they fully believe that what they're saying is the truth then that's all that is needed...


But even if we were to conclude that marc had behaved badly, he didn't threaten anyone or get in anyone's personal space. He never even stood up. He sat calmly while Danny had a tantrum and actually threatened him and threw stuff at him.

Why shouldn't danny be removed after several violent outbursts?

ebandit 28-06-2015 07:59 AM

........how desperate is this thread...........claiming threat to murder?

Mark L

Knispel 28-06-2015 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConnieLingus (Post 7938765)
Who is worse?

Helen saying that the twitching, fuming face of Brian made him LOOK like a murderer?

Or

Danny threatening to shove a glass into Marc's face, potentially killing him, and certainly disfiguring him for life?

Saying your going to murder someone directly if reported and you press charges (as a victim) can land them inside for 10 years and the police take it very seriously :dance:

Ammi 28-06-2015 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7939010)
But even if we were to conclude that marc had behaved badly, he didn't threaten anyone or get in anyone's personal space. He never even stood up. He sat calmly while Danny had a tantrum and actually threatened him and threw stuff at him.

Why shouldn't danny be removed after several violent outbursts?

..I think that has been answered though, by me anyway...in that I would be fine with him being ejected if ejection was consistent with any similar acts of aggression in the house...

RhysJones 28-06-2015 10:40 AM

Helen was just insulting Brian, while Danny threaten to injure someone, so no question about it

Kazanne 28-06-2015 10:48 AM

I am just lolling at the excuses for Danny in here when we all know if Helen or Marc had done the same they would have been crucified,so many double standards on here

Liam- 28-06-2015 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7939462)
I am just lolling at the excuses for Danny in here when we all know if Helen or Marc had done the same they would have been crucified,so many double standards on here

Pretty much, one rule for one another rule for someone else, go figures.


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