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Beetlejuice 01-07-2015 11:52 PM

So why is Jack actually up for eviction?
 
Some people seem to think the producers are gunning for Marc (their obvious favourite), yet the one person who could beat Marc in an unpopularity contest is Jack who only received 2 nominations. So Marc has been immune from eviction for 4 weeks and then when he is finally up, they make sure to put Jack up despite earlier on in the series Jade and Joel received 3 nominations and didn't face the public vote.

Another example of producer manipulation to try to keep Marc in the house? Looks like it to me.

ThriceShy 01-07-2015 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7953662)
Some people seem to think the producers are gunning for Marc (their obvious favourite), yet the one person who could beat Marc in an unpopularity contest is Jack who only received 2 nominations. So Marc has been immune from eviction for 4 weeks and then when he is finally up, they make sure to put Jack up despite earlier on in the series Jade and Joel received 3 nominations and didn't face the public vote.

Another example of producer manipulation to try to keep Marc in the house? Looks like it to me.

You are on shaky ground trying to claim that producer manipulation is favouring Marc when Violent thugs Danny and Aisleyne haven't been ejected by those same producers, despite targetting mark with threats and violence.

Pete. 02-07-2015 12:02 AM

I have honestly no idea

Withano 02-07-2015 12:03 AM

How many noms did everybody get, do you remember. I'm very ready to agree with you if jack had less than the other three.

ThriceShy 02-07-2015 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7953698)
How many noms did everybody get, do you remember. I'm very ready to agree with you if jack had less than the other three.

Yes Jack had less. I think he only had 2, and the others had 6 or 4.

But nobody is denying the producers make this up as they go along. They want a big head to head essentially with Jack and Marc and want a team smug member up with the 4in4out housemates. It will also bring them lots of voting revenue.

Beetlejuice 02-07-2015 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7953681)
You are on shaky ground trying to claim that producer manipulation is favouring Marc when Violent thugs Danny and Aisleyne haven't been ejected by those same producers, despite targetting mark with threats and violence.

He's been immune for 4 evictions in a row and the one person who could beat him in an eviction vote has been put despite only receiving 2 noms when people in the past who had 3 didn't face the public vote.

As for Danny/Aisleyne. I don't like either of them. But it's perfectly clear Marc goads them and prods away at them, as he has done everyone in the house since he entered. Let's not pretend he's an innocent little victim.

And as far I can tell Danny and Aisleyne seem to be reinforcing his popularity. So it all seems to be working in his favour doesn't it?

billy123 02-07-2015 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7953698)
How many noms did everybody get, do you remember. I'm very ready to agree with you if jack had less than the other three.

according to the wiki.

Marc 6
Sam 6
Harry 4
Jack 2

It is an utter nonsense that Jack is up.

Beetlejuice 02-07-2015 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7953704)
Yes Jack had less. I think he only had 2, and the others had 6 or 4.

But nobody is denying the producers make this up as they go along. They want a big head to head essentially with Jack and Marc and want a team smug member up with the 4in4out housemates. It will also bring them lots of voting revenue.

Alternatively... They wanted the one person who they knew had a good chance of going over Marc up. Sam and Harry don;t inspire much negative feeling, but Jack does. So it's more likely he was put up to save Marc, just as Jackie Travers was put up to save the others when she went, despite only having 2 noms whilst the others all had more.

Beetlejuice 02-07-2015 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7953709)
according to the wiki.

Marc 5
Harry 4
Sam 4
Jack 2

It is an utter nonsense that Jack is up.

As I recall it Marc had 6, so did Sam and Harry had 4.

Beetlejuice 02-07-2015 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7953709)
according to the wiki.

Marc 5
Harry 4
Sam 4
Jack 2

It is an utter nonsense that Jack is up.

It makes sense once you realize it was the best chance to save Marc. The guy the producers are biased against apparently.

billy123 02-07-2015 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7953715)
As I recall it Marc had 6, so did Sam and Harry had 4.

Yes you are right i forgot about Aisleynes votes for marc and sam.


Marc 6
Sam 6
Harry 4
Jack 2

ThriceShy 02-07-2015 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7953708)
He's been immune for 4 evictions in a row and the one person who could beat him in an eviction vote has been put despite only receiving 2 noms when people in the past who had 3 didn't face the public vote.

As for Danny/Aisleyne. I don't like either of them. But it's perfectly clear Marc goads them and prods away at them, as he has done everyone in the house since he entered. Let's not pretend he's an innocent little victim.

And as far I can tell Danny and Aisleyne seem to be reinforcing his popularity. So it all seems to be working in his favour doesn't it?


It does, to be fair.

I can't argue that the producers do what they want and seem to favour who they want. I am with you on this. I want a return to proper BB with harsh nomination rules and no outside contact.

But the feeling I get with you is that you are only complaining because it is marc being favoured. If they made team danny immune would you be complaining,

Withano 02-07-2015 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7953709)
according to the wiki.

Marc 6
Sam 6
Harry 4
Jack 2

It is an utter nonsense that Jack is up.

Thanks bobnot. That is absolutely disgraceful! Makes no sense whatsoever. But I agree with Thriceshy. I think they want a head to head. They are gonna freeze the lines and reopen it between Marc and Jack and cash in thousands within minutes.

And to beetlejuice, I agree it is an absolute joke, clearly an attempt for a Marc win. He'd be out with 70% had Jack not have been up.

ThriceShy 02-07-2015 12:26 AM

But if you lads are so sure of Marc being so nasty and hated then you should believe he will beat anyone.

And how could it be fair for the close-knit gang of original housemates to pick of the newbies. That is what would happen if BB kept to the original nom rules.

BB1984 02-07-2015 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7953766)
But if you lads are so sure of Marc being so nasty and hated then you should believe he will beat anyone.

And how could it be fair for the close-knit gang of original housemates to pick of the newbies. That is what would happen if BB kept to the original nom rules.

The original HM's pick on newbies & form a clique. I would perfer if BB discourage such behaviour as it usually means tatically nominating on not much else other then who was there longest.

ozzyshaggah 02-07-2015 12:45 AM

its very simple
all the people with the 3 highest numbers of votes are all up for eviction

in this case everybody that has 6 , 4, or 2 votes is up for eviction

Withano 02-07-2015 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ozzyshaggah (Post 7953807)
its very simple
all the people with the 3 highest numbers of votes are all up for eviction

in this case everybody that has 6 , 4, or 2 votes is up for eviction

I think the point is that they've never(?) used 'the 4 or more people with the most votes' rationale before.. 2, yes.. 3, yes.. Everybody with 1 vote or more, yes. I don't remember this rationale being used before, seems very convenient, don't you agree?

reece(: 02-07-2015 12:56 AM

Jack is up so the producers can be protect Marq

ThriceShy 02-07-2015 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7953826)
I think the point is that they've never(?) used 'the 4 or more people with the most votes' rationale before.. 2, yes.. 3, yes.. Everybody with 1 vote or more, yes. I don't remember this rationale being used before, seems very convenient, don't you agree?

It is convenient. BB want a big head to head with Jack and Marc. What is wrong with that?

And if you are so confident that marc is so nasty and will go then you should relish him going over jack, shouldn't you?

Beetlejuice 02-07-2015 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7953725)
It does, to be fair.

I can't argue that the producers do what they want and seem to favour who they want. I am with you on this. I want a return to proper BB with harsh nomination rules and no outside contact.

But the feeling I get with you is that you are only complaining because it is marc being favoured. If they made team danny immune would you be complaining,

Honestly, I have struggled to find one housemate to like this year. I find Danny a bore, with a bit of decency to him. Joel is impressive but not especially likeable. Nick has disappeared but I do still quite like him. Sam is a drip. Harry is a moody cow. Cristian is just cringeworthy. I've actually started to warm to Jack the most, just for his honesty about wanting to stay and trying to turn everything around for himself. And I forgot about Chloe.

billy123 02-07-2015 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7953844)
It is convenient. BB want a big head to head with Jack and Marc. What is wrong with that?

And if you are so confident that marc is so nasty and will go then you should relish him going over jack, shouldn't you?

Once again you completely miss the point :facepalm: Messing with the nomination process to produce the result that the producers want is out of order whoever is up.

Pete. 02-07-2015 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7953854)
Once again you completely miss the point :facepalm: Messing with the nomination process to produce the result that the producers want is out of order whoever is up.

:clap1:

Withano 02-07-2015 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7953854)
Once again you completely miss the point :facepalm: Messing with the nomination process to produce the result that the producers want is out of order whoever is up.

Ahaha, this user really is the definition of missing the point. Most of the time, I feel like it might be a parody account, but their relentlessness makes me lose hope.

(sorry for the choice of pronouns thriceshy, haven't learnt your gender yet)

Beetlejuice 02-07-2015 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ozzyshaggah (Post 7953807)
its very simple
all the people with the 3 highest numbers of votes are all up for eviction

That's a new rule that has never been explained before.

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in this case everybody that has 6 , 4, or 2 votes is up for eviction
Why not the 3 or more with the most noms... Marc, Sam and Harry?

Why not the 2 or more with the mosts noms like the old days... Marc and Sam?

The fact is they pull this "Anyone with 2 noms is up" rule out of their arses to get certain people out over others. In this case, to get Jack out over Marc.

ThriceShy 02-07-2015 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7953873)
That's a new rule that has never been explained before.



Why not the 3 or more with the most noms... Marc, Sam and Harry?

Why not the 2 or more with the mosts noms like the old days... Marc and Sam?

The fact is they pull this "Anyone with 2 noms is up" rule out of their arses to get certain people out over others. In this case, to get Jack out over Marc.


Diddums.

The gang of bullying bores, who will never nominate each other, haven't been allowed to block vote the newbies out.

Beetlejuice 02-07-2015 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7953889)
Diddums.

The gang of bullying bores, who will never nominate each other, haven't been allowed to block vote the newbies out.

Who are these bullying bores? I know you think Danny is... But Cristian? Chloe? Seriously? They're bullies?

What's wrong with people becoming close and not nominating each other exactly? Surely this just shows a certain loyalty between them. More loyalty than Marc ever showed to Jade.

ThriceShy 02-07-2015 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7953911)
Who are these bullying bores? I know you think Danny is... But Cristian? Chloe? Seriously? They're bullies?

What's wrong with people becoming close and not nominating each other exactly? Surely this just shows a certain loyalty between them. More loyalty than Marc ever showed to Jade.

Chloe's bullying tonight was disgusting. When she was laughing at Aisleyne saying marc had a disability between his legs. It actually reminded me of JO and Danielle laughing while jade attacked shilpa.

Christian is well involved with the bullying of marc and always backs danny.

Beetlejuice 02-07-2015 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7953916)
Chloe's bullying tonight was disgusting. When she was laughing at Aisleyne saying marc had a disability between his legs. It actually reminded me of JO and Danielle laughing while jade attacked shilpa.

Christian is well involved with the bullying of marc and always backs danny.

I see. I don't agree with any of it. But you know that already.

ThriceShy 02-07-2015 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7953918)
I see. I don't agree with any of it. But you know that already.

You didn't see chloe sniggering tonight?

mimosveta 02-07-2015 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7953662)
Some people seem to think the producers are gunning for Marc (their obvious favourite), yet the one person who could beat Marc in an unpopularity contest is Jack who only received 2 nominations. So Marc has been immune from eviction for 4 weeks and then when he is finally up, they make sure to put Jack up despite earlier on in the series Jade and Joel received 3 nominations and didn't face the public vote.

Another example of producer manipulation to try to keep Marc in the house? Looks like it to me.

I'm hoping it's cause they plan double eviction. it's time for that, and it's the only thing that justifies scraping the bottom like that.

If it's not double eviction, then it's obviously done as a rig to save Marc for finals. :bawling:

Ashley. 02-07-2015 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7953681)
You are on shaky ground trying to claim that producer manipulation is favouring Marc when Violent thugs Danny and Aisleyne haven't been ejected by those same producers, despite targetting mark with threats and violence.

But they're quite clearly favouring Marc. :joker: This has nothing to do with Danny and Ais.

Ashley. 02-07-2015 04:27 AM

I'm so sick of people tossing around the word "bullying".

All anyone has to do is breathe and they'd automatically become a bully.

BB4fan 02-07-2015 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7953911)
Who are these bullying bores? I know you think Danny is... But Cristian? Chloe? Seriously? They're bullies?

What's wrong with people becoming close and not nominating each other exactly? Surely this just shows a certain loyalty between them. More loyalty than Marc ever showed to Jade.

Danny and Aisylene are bullies, but I wouldn't think of the rest as but I do tend to notice that the originals always nominate the newbies simply because that's how the original bores work.

BB4fan 02-07-2015 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7953916)
Chloe's bullying tonight was disgusting. When she was laughing at Aisleyne saying marc had a disability between his legs. It actually reminded me of JO and Danielle laughing while jade attacked shilpa.

Christian is well involved with the bullying of marc and always backs danny.

Marc was right about one thing if Danny took a **** on the floor Cristian would think of it as a present and eat it.

Beetlejuice 02-07-2015 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7953924)
You didn't see chloe sniggering tonight?

I saw her not be able to stop herself laughing at one of the comments. I'd hardly describe that as bullying.

Beetlejuice 02-07-2015 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BB4fan (Post 7954098)
Danny and Aisylene are bullies

I see less evidence for this than I do for Marc being one.

Quote:

but I wouldn't think of the rest as but I do tend to notice that the originals always nominate the newbies simply because that's how the original bores work.
The originals all seemed to get on well. Why would they nominate each other?

BB4fan 02-07-2015 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7953924)
You didn't see chloe sniggering tonight?

Chloe is just a brown noser with no real personality.

Macie Lightfoot 02-07-2015 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7953889)
Diddums.

The gang of bullying bores, who will never nominate each other, haven't been allowed to block vote the newbies out.

and you came blame your precious Marc for uniting the original HMs tbh

BB4fan 02-07-2015 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7954105)
I see less evidence for this than I do for Marc being one.



The originals all seemed to get on well. Why would they nominate each other?


They have it in for anyone who came in after them. Wouldn't matter if they were saints they'd still find dull reasons to nominate them. Danny saying he found Sam to be fame hungry one time is rich coming from him.

Beetlejuice 02-07-2015 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Firegazer (Post 7954088)
I'm so sick of people tossing around the word "bullying".

All anyone has to do is breathe and they'd automatically become a bully.

If this is in regards to Marc, that's just wrong imo. As I have repeatedly said... He has prodded away at people, invaded their personal space, goaded them, made numerous insulting remarks, manipulated situations to get away with this and make others look bad. He has tried to isolate people (Harry - before the bunker), abused whatever power he has had in the house, riled situations up, spoken over people and belittled them.

This is bully boy behaviour. And the word that is overused is the other B word "Banter" to try and make it all look like fun and games, when it is often anything but.


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