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sosadbbend 02-07-2015 10:28 AM

Think we have plenty of examples of antagonising behaviour by Marc
 
If there was any doubt that Marc was an antagonist, last nights HL prove beyond all doubt. Sniping nasty little comments under his breath while grinning that inane grin of his. So for future reference if anyone wants examples please refer to HL show of 01/07/15.

Pete. 02-07-2015 10:30 AM

The shameless bullying of Harry in the first 2 weeks as well
Saying vile comments to Sam which was just past off as 'banter'
Being an irritant taking duvets off of housemates (which is not entertaining in the slightest)

waterhog 02-07-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sosadbbend (Post 7954479)
If there was any doubt that Marc was an antagonist, last nights HL prove beyond all doubt. Sniping nasty little comments under his breath while grinning that inane grin of his. So for future reference if anyone wants examples please refer to HL show of 01/07/15.

you are wrong and i disagree - marc is playing the game - no more no less.

Griffin5779 02-07-2015 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sosadbbend (Post 7954479)
If there was any doubt that Marc was an antagonist, last nights HL prove beyond all doubt. Sniping nasty little comments under his breath while grinning that inane grin of his. So for future reference if anyone wants examples please refer to HL show of 01/07/15.

what i saw last night was a guest asking a leading question in regards to how he felt about bout asslenye and marc responding..then danny started in on him...then asslenye joining in cause she saw danny and marc exchanging words....when they start on him and you say he is antagonist you come off looking a fool to me

Idiom

under one's breath, [meaning] in a low voice or whisper

[example]He protested under his breath because he was afraid to speak u

sounds the opposite of antagonist to me. sound like being bully and intimidated to the point you feel afraid to express yourself:) poor marc..lets start a marc is being bullied thread

sosadbbend 02-07-2015 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Griffin5779 (Post 7954509)
what i saw last night was a guest asking a leading question in regards to how he felt about bout asslenye and marc responding..then danny started in on him...then asslenye joining in cause she saw danny and marc exchanging words....when they start on him and you say he is antagonist you come off looking a fool to me

Idiom

under one's breath, [meaning] in a low voice or whisper

[example]He protested under his breath because he was afraid to speak u

sounds the opposite of antagonist to me. sound like being bully and intimidated to the point you feel afraid to express yourself:) poor marc..lets start a marc is being bullied thread

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: you are such a joker

Griffin5779 02-07-2015 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sosadbbend (Post 7954520)
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: you are such a joker


very nice reply..really addressed the points i made..way to go

chuff me dizzy 02-07-2015 10:56 AM

Is the barrel scraped clean yet? it can't be far off

Vicky. 02-07-2015 11:00 AM

As I said yesterday, it what happened on last nights show it an example of his antagonizing of other housemates, then yes. He certainly has done it :D

sosadbbend 02-07-2015 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Griffin5779 (Post 7954538)
very nice reply..really addressed the points i made..way to go

I have already made my points and don't agree with yours, I don't need to address them, I actually laughed out loud when I read them.:laugh:

Nancy. 02-07-2015 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sosadbbend (Post 7954479)
If there was any doubt that Marc was an antagonist, last nights HL prove beyond all doubt. Sniping nasty little comments under his breath while grinning that inane grin of his. So for future reference if anyone wants examples please refer to HL show of 01/07/15.


Why are people conveniently forgetting that Joel and Aisleyne were the one's who started the fight in the first place?

Sam asked how they were and Joel (being the arse he is) said: "We must remain in character mode until tomorrow", and Marc replied "until, we're off shift" and Aisleyne (under her breath) said "Shut the F up". Marc didn't even address her, he was talking to Joel and then she started again with "It better not involve me because my mind is ready to blow" (or some crap like that) and he replied with: "I haven't even mentioned you" - which was true. So how was he antagonising?

Jose Mourinho 02-07-2015 11:16 AM

Marc IS an antagonist, no doubt he is class A knobhead. I cannot count how many times he has accused others of being A LOIR DONT LOI!! Hes the biggest fake ass in that house by a country mile. People wonder why Danny blew his top? Lol

Jose Mourinho 02-07-2015 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sosadbbend (Post 7954573)
i have already made my points and don't agree with yours, i don't need to address them, i actually laughed out loud when i read them.:laugh:

dont fockin loi

Griffin5779 02-07-2015 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sosadbbend (Post 7954573)
I have already made my points and don't agree with yours, I don't need to address them, I actually laughed out loud when I read them.:laugh:

but you did chose to reply to it..and when you do that i feel free to point out that you don't even have any counter argument to refute what i said:)

Jose Mourinho 02-07-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 7954542)
Is the barrel scraped clean yet? it can't be far off

i love that avatar of marc it sums up how fake he is

erinp5 02-07-2015 11:47 AM

12.44pm: After taunting from Marc and James, Jack ate a bite of pastry. Now everyone's shouting about failing the task

jet 02-07-2015 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by waterhog (Post 7954487)
you are wrong and i disagree - marc is playing the game - no more no less.

It's more than just playing the game...Marc is the ultimate attention seeker. Almost everything he does is to get a reaction, and it doesn't matter whether it is a good or bad one, just as long as he is centre stage and all eyes are on him.
Strutting about in his drawers like a cock - of - the - walk? Hmmm. Getting right into peoples personal spaces 'for a laugh', pulling off bedclothes, jumping on top of them, using so called 'banter' (like the std remark to Chloe) to get the cameras on to him, relentlessly questioning people (like he did with Ash and Nick) and then disregarding their replies. Yes, it makes for good tv, but I can understand why the other HM's don't like him because it must be hard living with someone who seeks attention so relentlessly. If he's not being looked at for even a second he has to do something, ANYTHING, to get the focus back on him. Even in quieter moments, he has to appear windswept and interesting, like saying he doesn't like to be touched (which he copied from Helen) when in fact he was all over Jade hugging her and cuddling her in bed before he went into the bunker.

It's pathetic really.

Jose Mourinho 02-07-2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 7954718)
It's more than just playing the game...Marc is the ultimate attention seeker. Almost everything he does is to get a reaction, and it doesn't matter whether it is a good or bad one, just as long as he is centre stage and all eyes are on him.
Strutting about in his drawers like a cock - of - the - walk? Hmmm. Getting right into peoples personal spaces 'for a laugh', pulling off bedclothes, jumping on top of them, using so called 'banter' (like the std remark to Chloe) to get the cameras on to him, relentlessly questioning people (like he did with Ash and Nick) and then disregarding their replies. Yes, it makes for good tv, but I can understand why the other HM's don't like him because it must be hard living with someone who seeks attention so relentlessly. If he's not being looked at for even a second he has to do something, ANYTHING, to get the focus back on him. Even in quieter moments, he has to appear windswept and interesting, like saying he doesn't like to be touched (which he copied from Helen) when in fact he was all over Jade hugging her and cuddling her in bed before he went into the bunker.

It's pathetic really.

Pathetic is the word good post.

jennyjuniper 02-07-2015 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7954615)
Marc IS an antagonist, no doubt he is class A knobhead. I cannot count how many times he has accused others of being A LOIR DONT LOI!! Hes the biggest fake ass in that house by a country mile. People wonder why Danny blew his top? Lol

I don't wonder. He blew his top because he's a knob who is desperate to win and have control of 'his' house.

Lstan 02-07-2015 12:07 PM

Yes, there are many examples of marc being an antagonist...

So why people on this forum feel the need to invent new ones i'll never know.

Smash the Clique 02-07-2015 12:38 PM

For the Marc-haters, when they say Marc is being "antagonistic" what they actually mean (but will never admit) is that "antagonistic" really means Marc handing everyone their arses in every argument/debate he's had in the house. Why do you think Aisleyne and Danny have resorted to physical threats against Marc? Because they have neither the intelligence nor the vocabulary to possibly get the better of Marc in a verbal argument. Aisleyne has more-or-less admitted as such in the diary room, saying that (I'm paraphrasing here) she's frustrated because she can't get the better of him in an argument.

If I was arguing with someone who was tying me in knots with logic, facts and (to be fair) a few perfectly-timed but well-deserved insults, I'd be antagonised too. But it would be my fault for going out of my depth.

sosadbbend 02-07-2015 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy Littlebottom (Post 7954607)
[/COLOR] Why are people conveniently forgetting that Joel and Aisleyne were the one's who started the fight in the first place?

Sam asked how they were and Joel (being the arse he is) said: "We must remain in character mode until tomorrow", and Marc replied "until, we're off shift" and Aisleyne (under her breath) said "Shut the F up". Marc didn't even address her, he was talking to Joel and then she started again with "It better not involve me because my mind is ready to blow" (or some crap like that) and he replied with: "I haven't even mentioned you" - which was true. So how was he antagonising?

It wasn't that point I was making, it was slightly earlier in the show between Danny and Marc but hey you raised another moment anyway.

sosadbbend 02-07-2015 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Griffin5779 (Post 7954622)
but you did chose to reply to it..and when you do that i feel free to point out that you don't even have any counter argument to refute what i said:)

Just watch the show and stop being in denial

Josy 02-07-2015 01:12 PM

Yes how dare he antagonise anyone AFTER they treat him like **** all day

mimosveta 02-07-2015 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy Littlebottom (Post 7954607)
So how was he antagonising?

By creating atmosphere in which she feels she's under constant scrutiny. Just cause now he doesn't talk about her, doesn't mean he didn't do it enough times for her to become jumpy.

that's what passive aggressive is all about.

Livia 02-07-2015 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Smash the Clique (Post 7954842)
For the Marc-haters, when they say Marc is being "antagonistic" what they actually mean (but will never admit) is that "antagonistic" really means Marc handing everyone their arses in every argument/debate he's had in the house. Why do you think Aisleyne and Danny have resorted to physical threats against Marc? Because they have neither the intelligence nor the vocabulary to possibly get the better of Marc in a verbal argument. Aisleyne has more-or-less admitted as such in the diary room, saying that (I'm paraphrasing here) she's frustrated because she can't get the better of him in an argument.

If I was arguing with someone who was tying me in knots with logic, facts and (to be fair) a few perfectly-timed but well-deserved insults, I'd be antagonised too. But it would be my fault for going out of my depth.

Logic? I have seen hardly any evidence of lLogic from Marc. And having someone shout over you, constantly call you a liar and denying everything despite there being camera's everywhere is not an example of anyone having their arse handed to them.

Vicky. 02-07-2015 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7954932)
Yes how dare he antagonise anyone AFTER they treat him like **** all day

Last night was apparently an example of how he antagonizes Aisleyne and causes arguments. All I can say is he must have mastered the art of entering dreams or something, as from the second she woke up she was on the warpath for him despite admitting to big brother he had done nowt :laugh:

No denying he purposely got her more irrate AFTER she started on him, but come on...if this is an example of how he winds people up...I really do not think that arguing back is winding someone up tbh. She shouldn't start arguments if she cannot handle it, and she had already admitted in the same show that she can't argue with him...

I have also seen how he was in the wrong for saying **** like 'you have had more mickeys in ya than disneyland madam' and such. Completely ignoring the fact that those comments were in retaliation to her many jibes about his tiny penis (something he took well too...apparently he can't take criticism either :hehe: ) Its just getting ****ing mental :D

Miss Nicole 02-07-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Griffin5779 (Post 7954509)
what i saw last night was a guest asking a leading question in regards to how he felt about bout asslenye and marc responding..then danny started in on him...then asslenye joining in cause she saw danny and marc exchanging words....when they start on him and you say he is antagonist you come off looking a fool to me

Idiom

under one's breath, [meaning] in a low voice or whisper

[example]He protested under his breath because he was afraid to speak u

sounds the opposite of antagonist to me. sound like being bully and intimidated to the point you feel afraid to express yourself:) poor marc..lets start a marc is being bullied thread

Firstly; Which guest?At what part of the show?
Secondly ; please refer to my thread 'Marc Clearly antagonising '

Miss Nicole 02-07-2015 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 7955148)
Last night was apparently an example of how he antagonizes Aisleyne and causes arguments. All I can say is he must have mastered the art of entering dreams or something, as from the second she woke up she was on the warpath for him despite admitting to big brother he had done nowt :laugh:

No denying he purposely got her more irrate AFTER she started on him, but come on...if this is an example of how he winds people up...I really do not think that arguing back is winding someone up tbh. She shouldn't start arguments if she cannot handle it, and she had already admitted in the same show that she can't argue with him...

I have also seen how he was in the wrong for saying **** like 'you have had more mickeys in ya than disneyland madam' and such. Completely ignoring the fact that those comments were in retaliation to her many jibes about his tiny penis (something he took well too...apparently he can't take criticism either :hehe: ) Its just getting ****ing mental :D

I think she was upset by Mark , she wasn't on the war path, if you say awful things to people that allude to them personally then laugh in their face you are going to have to face the repercussions .She was after all in the diary room crying about how he made her feel.

He started the argument between him and her by telling g
her she had issues, if you watch the episode it's all very clear.

Vicky. 02-07-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Nicole (Post 7955181)
I think she was upset by Mark , she wasn't on the war path, if you say awful things to people that allude to them personally then laugh in their face you are going to have to face the repercussions .She was after all in the diary room crying about how he made her feel.

He started the argument between him and her by telling g
her she had issues, if you watch the episode it's all very clear.

I watched the episode thanks, she was on the warpath all day. The later argument she started by getting all 'ya better not be talking about me' when he wasnt even saying anything about her. She was clearly after an argument, he gave it to her and she looked a fool, once again.

Nancy. 02-07-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sosadbbend (Post 7954854)
It wasn't that point I was making, it was slightly earlier in the show between Danny and Marc but hey you raised another moment anyway.

In your OP you mentioned highlights. You didn't specify which part of the show you meant. We're not mind-readers, but since you pointed it out, it was Danny who started that argument.

Charley: You don't like Aisleyne, do you
Marc: I don't like people being spiteful to me
To which Danny jumped in (AGAIN) and said "Now you know how we feel about you", and then Marc retaliated.

Charley asked Marc a simple question and Marc answered with the truth. What did that have to do with Danny?

Nancy. 02-07-2015 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 7955148)
Last night was apparently an example of how he antagonizes Aisleyne and causes arguments. All I can say is he must have mastered the art of entering dreams or something, as from the second she woke up she was on the warpath for him despite admitting to big brother he had done nowt :laugh:

No denying he purposely got her more irrate AFTER she started on him, but come on...if this is an example of how he winds people up...I really do not think that arguing back is winding someone up tbh. She shouldn't start arguments if she cannot handle it, and she had already admitted in the same show that she can't argue with him...

I have also seen how he was in the wrong for saying **** like 'you have had more mickeys in ya than disneyland madam' and such. Completely ignoring the fact that those comments were in retaliation to her many jibes about his tiny penis (something he took well too...apparently he can't take criticism either :hehe: ) Its just getting ****ing mental :D

:clap1:

Robodog 02-07-2015 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 7955148)
Last night was apparently an example of how he antagonizes Aisleyne and causes arguments. All I can say is he must have mastered the art of entering dreams or something, as from the second she woke up she was on the warpath for him despite admitting to big brother he had done nowt :laugh:

No denying he purposely got her more irrate AFTER she started on him, but come on...if this is an example of how he winds people up...I really do not think that arguing back is winding someone up tbh. She shouldn't start arguments if she cannot handle it, and she had already admitted in the same show that she can't argue with him...

It worked for Brian. So now super-attention seeker Aisleyene is following the exact same pattern.

Brian kissed Jade, started arguments while marking out Helen/Marc as 'bullys'.

Ais tried her best with Danny and is now trying her best to pursue Marc as HER 'bully'.

Both cry in the diary room at how they 'cannot take anymore'.

How long before Aisleyne exits and blames it on Marc, just as Brian did with Helen?

the truth 02-07-2015 03:03 PM

marc is an evil deluded narcissist

Robodog 02-07-2015 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7955277)
marc is an evil deluded narcissist

EVIL??? :joker::joker::joker:

jet 02-07-2015 03:11 PM

I've just watched the first part of episode (didn't see it last night) and Marc was the main antagonizer by far. It started off with Charly commenting on the way Marc was looking at Ash "You don't like her do you"? And Marc saying he didn't like Ash because she was spiteful to him -

Danny - "now you know how we feel"
Laugher..
Marc - "Just because you're dicking her doesn't mean you have to stick up for her" (which he wasn't anyway)
Charley "He's not having sex with her!"
Danny "You guys talk about dicking everyone who ****ing arrives in this house"
Marc "Ahh, look at you going mad, look at you going mad"
Danny "You're a dick mate"
Marc "At least I can spell, at least I have had an education"

Then Ash barges in wanting to know what is wrong and Danny says "Nothing, it's nothing". Then Ash calls him a smug bastard etc and is actually the only one of them all who says anything to him without being specifically provoked first.

Then Marc to Danny "Okay just because you want to be a defender again, at least I don't have to shack up with someone"...(murmur murmur)
Danny "Every time a bird comes in it's 'put me in your column' (that's what it sounded like...don't know if it was...
Marc "hahahhahhahahahah"

Then Ash starts again and Danny pulls her away.
Mark kept making remarks when everyone else had stopped and Christian was asking him over and over not to. He gets in a parting shot to Danny over something about getting the money.

The only one picking at Marc was Ash, and he gave worse back, otherwise it was Marc doing most of the antagonizing and others REACTING.

It's a good example of how he operates, I 'tink'. lol

JamesBond 02-07-2015 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sosadbbend (Post 7954479)
If there was any doubt that Marc was an antagonist, last nights HL prove beyond all doubt. Sniping nasty little comments under his breath while grinning that inane grin of his. So for future reference if anyone wants examples please refer to HL show of 01/07/15.

LOL - poor Aisleyne just trying to have a good time in the house and avoid confrontation :laugh::laugh::laugh:

jet 02-07-2015 03:30 PM

When Chloe tackles him about his 'at least I'm educated' insults, he NOW decides to walk away from it because it suits HIM, (another form of goading when he could just have said "I was wrong to say that") whereas earlier he didn't give a hoot about the task and kept sniping away when everyone else had stopped, ignoring Christians pleas to put an end to it.
I have yet to see this awful 'picking on him all day stuff' that some are talking about? :conf:

BB1984 02-07-2015 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 7955303)
The only one picking at Marc was Ash, and he gave worse back, otherwise it was Marc doing most of the antagonizing and others REACTING.

It's a good example of how he operates, I 'tink'.lol

Marc has no one to back him up, there are a group of people in the house who are gunning for him. He has to contend with 2,3,4 sometimes 5 people in a single argument.

So is it okay for the HM's to try ostracise someone who is answering back when their are arguements?

BB1984 02-07-2015 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 7955378)
When Chloe tackles him about his 'at least I'm educated' insults, he NOW decides to walk away from it because it suits HIM, (another form of goading when he could just have said "I was wrong to say that") whereas earlier he didn't give a hoot about the task and kept sniping away when everyone else had stopped, ignoring Christians pleas to put an end to it.
I have yet to see this awful 'picking on him all day stuff' that some are talking about? :conf:

I am sure people would still complain if Marc did engage her in a discussion/arguement. Can he do anything right in some people's eyes?

Beso 02-07-2015 03:38 PM

For someone as seemingly intelligent as he is he should be more aware of the words he uses.

Ive heard him being sexist, racist, homophobic and sizest as well as ageist,

Note he has not as yet been hightest.


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