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Amy Jade 08-08-2015 06:42 PM

Just how messed up is this!
 
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One 19 year old boy has seen his life destroyed after meeting a girl online and having sex with her, only to find out that she was underage.

Zach Anderson spent 90 days in jail and is now on two sex offenders registers in separate states after meeting the girl on app Hot or Not, with the girl claiming to be 17, but in reality only being 14.

In what has been deemed a deliberately harsh sentence, designed to make an example of him, the teenager from Indiana even saw the mother of the girl and the girl herself come forward to claim that she misled him and he believed her to be of age.

After the sentencing, Anderson now cannot live at home because his brother is 15, has lost all the work he did towards his computer science degree and has to be on a sex offenders register for the next 25 years.


Full Story: http://www.unilad.co.uk/articles/tee...-sex-offender/

The judge is a total prick! the girl lied about her age, she and her family all wanted the charges dropped yet the judge decided on such a harsh sentence just to make an example? disgusting.

Liam- 08-08-2015 06:50 PM

I read about this earlier, absolutely shocking case and the verdict is beyond ridiculous, didn't the judge say something about how she/he hated today's technological way of people hooking up? Incredibly bias ruling by an idiotic judge, I hope they get sacked and this guy rightfully gets his life back because as it is now, it's completely ruined because of a lying little brats desire to feel grown up.

Amy Jade 08-08-2015 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8052652)
I read about this earlier, absolutely shocking case and the verdict is beyond ridiculous, didn't the judge say something about how she/he hated today's technological way of people hooking up? Incredibly bias ruling by an idiotic judge, I hope they get sacked and this guy rightfully gets his life back because as it is now, it's completely ruined because of a lying little brats desire to feel grown up.

Yeah the judge did, this poor guy is literally being used as a sacrifice for an idiot judge to show his distain for what the two of them did.

Livia 08-08-2015 07:35 PM

I imagine - and I hope - lawyers will be climbing over each other to handle his appeal because it will be high-profile and I hope damaging for the original judge.

Jason. 08-08-2015 07:42 PM

That's just awful. I hope and live that judge gets sacked. ****ing ****.

Mystic Mock 08-08-2015 08:52 PM

Shouldn't the girl's Mother get into trouble for deceiving him? It's like a form of grooming.

empire 08-08-2015 10:03 PM

it was not this guys fault, he did not force her too lie about her age, this proves that females are the most manipulative and deceptive of all, how many under age girls, lied to there teeth about there age to rock stars, and the police in this country using taxpayers money too try and jail old celebrities, for tapping a womans bottom, kangaroo court style justice, thats where the problem is hitting this guy, he should sue every penny from the judge, and the girl should be banned from the internet, for ten years,

lily. 08-08-2015 10:07 PM

It's a dodgy one isn't it.

Girls lie about their age all the time. What's a guy supposed to do? ID them? If she looks a certain age, then he will obviously take it at face value that she is a certain age. I don't think he should be on any register as he didn't willingly go and have sex with an underage girl. He had sex with a girl who claimed to be of age. So that ought to have been taken into account.

Since this has now made international news, I hope the guy gets some justice from this, as he clearly didn't go out looking for a child to have sex with. The whole thing has been horribly mishandled in my view. I expect, as Liv says, there will be lawyers in there like a dog eating biscuits.

armand.kay 08-08-2015 10:20 PM

Its not messed up its ****ed up! Hook up apps should be held more accountable tbh, they should do more to stop kids lying about their age. Tindr does a bit by making you sign up with your facebook.

user104658 09-08-2015 12:31 AM

Puh Puh Puh paaaaeeedophile

Tom4784 09-08-2015 12:56 AM

It's an awful ruling and one I imagine will be overturned quickly when it's appealed. The judge should be sacked for such a biased and overly harsh ruling. I hope the boy and his family also sue the judge for damages after it is overturned.

lostalex 09-08-2015 07:02 AM

sorry, but 19 and 14 is a huge gap. it might not seem like a lot to most adults, 5 years between adults is not that much, but sorry, ****ing a 14 year old, not okay in my book.

i can't believe so many people in this forum are okay with 19 y/o men going after 14 y/o girls. men need to have the same policy as bartenders, if they are claiming to be anything under 30, and they look under 30, you check ID.

He was clearly online looking for young naive girls to ****. I don't feel the least bit sorry for him. Hopefully this will teach him and all other young guys that read the story to stop trying to **** young girls, and actually create real relationships with adult women their own age.

and for full disclosure I am in a relationship with a guy that is 5 years younger than me, but I am 33 and he is 28, and it's not the same thing at all. And i bet if this was a 19 y/o guy that ****ed a 14 year old boy a lot of you wouldn't have the same opinion.

lostalex 09-08-2015 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lily. (Post 8052975)
It's a dodgy one isn't it.

Girls lie about their age all the time. What's a guy supposed to do? ID them? If she looks a certain age, then he will obviously take it at face value that she is a certain age. I don't think he should be on any register as he didn't willingly go and have sex with an underage girl. He had sex with a girl who claimed to be of age. So that ought to have been taken into account.

Since this has now made international news, I hope the guy gets some justice from this, as he clearly didn't go out looking for a child to have sex with. The whole thing has been horribly mishandled in my view. I expect, as Liv says, there will be lawyers in there like a dog eating biscuits.

I don't understand why you say that. how is it clear that he didn't seek out underage girls to sleep with? That doesn't seem clear to me at all.

Josy 09-08-2015 07:16 AM

Hmmm he broke the law and slept with someone that was below the age of consent, how many times must police and judges hear the 'i thought she was older' excuse?

Amy Jade 09-08-2015 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8053390)
sorry, but 19 and 14 is a huge gap. it might not seem like a lot to most adults, 5 years between adults is not that much, but sorry, ****ing a 14 year old, not okay in my book.

i can't believe so many people in this forum are okay with 19 y/o men going after 14 y/o girls. men need to have the same policy as bartenders, if they are claiming to be anything under 30, and they look under 30, you check ID.

He was clearly online looking for young naive girls to ****. I don't feel the least bit sorry for him. Hopefully this will teach him and all other young guys that read the story to stop trying to **** young girls, and actually create real relationships with adult women their own age.

and for full disclosure I am in a relationship with a guy that is 5 years younger than me, but I am 33 and he is 28, and it's not the same thing at all. And i bet if this was a 19 y/o guy that ****ed a 14 year old boy a lot of you wouldn't have the same opinion.

He believed she was 17 as stated. I can't see anyone here claiming a 19 year old should be having sex with a 14 year old but the girl in question and her family stood in court and admitted the boy did NO wrong, she accepted responsability.

Amy Jade 09-08-2015 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8053400)
Hmmm he broke the law and slept with someone that was below the age of consent, how many times must police and judges hear the 'i thought she was older' excuse?

He was duped into breaking the law.

lostalex 09-08-2015 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8053404)
He was duped into breaking the law.

yea, criminals are pretty dumb, but honestly, how will they ever learn. saying "i'm stupid so i can **** any little girl because i'm stupid"? sorry, that's no excuse.

Obviously criminals are stupid. that doesn't mean that they shouldn't have to pay for their crimes.

If stupidity was a valid excuse, no one would ever have to face any justice.

Benjamin 09-08-2015 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8053400)
Hmmm he broke the law and slept with someone that was below the age of consent, how many times must police and judges hear the 'i thought she was older' excuse?

The thing is here even the girl and her mum stepped forward to say she had lied and duped him.

Amy Jade 09-08-2015 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8053405)
yea, criminals are pretty dumb, but honestly, how will they ever learn. saying "i'm stupid so i can **** any little girl because i'm stupid"? sorry, that's no excuse.

Obviously criminals are stupid. that doesn't mean that they shouldn't have to pay for their crimes.

If stupidity was a valid excuse, no one would ever have to face any justice.

I really don't understand where you're even coming from, he never willingly slept with her knowing she was 14, she claimed to be 17 years old and he believed her, her parents even stood up in court and said she had decieved him.

It's not as clear cut as you are trying to insinuate.

Benjamin 09-08-2015 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8053405)
yea, criminals are pretty dumb, but honestly, how will they ever learn. saying "i'm stupid so i can **** any little girl because i'm stupid"? sorry, that's no excuse.

Obviously criminals are stupid. that doesn't mean that they shouldn't have to pay for their crimes.

If stupidity was a valid excuse, no one would ever have to face any justice.

Alex he didn't actively go looking to have sex with a 14 year old, he believed she was 17, so he didn't know he was breaking the law nor did he actively seek out to break it. It's not stupidity, it was being deceived.

lostalex 09-08-2015 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 8053409)
Alex he didn't actively go looking to have sex with a 14 year old, he believed she was 17, so he didn't know he was breaking the law nor did he actively seek out to break it.

you don't know what he believed and it doesn't matter what he believed. most drunk drivers didn't believe that they were too intoxicated to drive safely. so what? so what if they thought they were fine to drive, that doesn't mean it's not a crime.

it's against the law to **** a 14 y/o child.

he ****ed a 14 y/o child.

Justice done.

Benjamin 09-08-2015 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8053411)
you don't know what he believed and it doesn't matter.

it's against the law to **** a 14 y/o child.

he ****ed a 14 y/o child.

Justice done.

And you don't know what he believed either. This is not a clear cut case, so no justice has been done and soon his case will be appealed and likely over turned.

Benjamin 09-08-2015 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8053411)
you don't know what he believed and it doesn't matter what he believed. most drunk drivers didn't believe that they were too intoxicated to drive safely. so what? so what if they thought they were fine to drive, that doesn't mean it's not a crime.

it's against the law to **** a 14 y/o child.

he ****ed a 14 y/o child.

Justice done.


Drunk drivers actively know they shouldn't be driving though and are breaking the law so that is a poor comparison.

Amy Jade 09-08-2015 07:39 AM

All I can say is I am glad you are not a judge if you refuse to look at the bigger picture.

Why do you bring cars and drunk drivers up? sorry that is a terrible comparrison :laugh2:

lostalex 09-08-2015 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 8053414)
Drunk drivers actively know they shouldn't be driving though and are breaking the law so that is a poor comparison.

no they don't, they almost always claim they thought they were perfectly safe to drive, and that they didn't realize what their blood alcohol level was. so they truly believed they had a legal blood alcohol content, that means it shouldn't be a crime?

lostalex 09-08-2015 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8053415)
All I can say is I am glad you are not a judge if you refuse to look at the bigger picture.

Why do you bring cars and drunk drivers up? sorry that is a terrible comparrison :laugh2:

it's exactly the same thing. people believe what they want to believe to do what they want to do. and they are always looking for excuses. so it's a very fair analogy.

Amy Jade 09-08-2015 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8053416)
no they don't, they almost always claim they thought they were perfectly safe to drive, and that they didn't realize what their blood alcohol level was. so they truly believed they had a legal blood alcohol content, that means it shouldn't be a crime?

The car didn't tell them they were below the safe limit though did it. :facepalm:

lostalex 09-08-2015 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8053418)
The car didn't tell them they were below the safe limit though did it. :facepalm:

and a young child telling you a lie doesn't mean that you have no responsibility. Young children lie all the time, especially teenagers, just like a drunk's mind lies to them about how drunk they really are.

Benjamin 09-08-2015 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8053416)
no they don't, they almost always claim they thought they were perfectly safe to drive, and that they didn't realize what their blood alcohol level was. so they truly believed they had a legal blood alcohol content, that means it shouldn't be a crime?


You know when you have had too many, despite what people say, you know as soon as you have more than one you are over the limit, so yes those that drink drive actively knew what they were doing.

Amy Jade 09-08-2015 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8053419)
and a young child telling you a lie doesn't mean that you have no responsibility. Young children lie all the time, especially teenagers, just like a drunk's mind lies to them about how drunk they really are.

Still have no idea why you are using drunk driving as a comparisson at all.

lostalex 09-08-2015 07:44 AM

remember that story from a few years ago about the british child that ran away to france with her teacher? she swore up and down she was in love with him, and that it's not his fault, children do that, because children don't have the development to make rational decisions. to blame the girl tolying and claiming he did nothing wrong, means nothing.

the onus is on the ADULT man, not the child. it doesn't matter what she said, even if she took off al her clothes and stood on her head and begged him to **** her, it's still illegal. and all the responsibility is still on the adult man.

Benjamin 09-08-2015 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8053422)
remember that story from a few years ago about the british child that ran away to france with her teacher? she swore up and down she was in love with him, and that it's not his fault, children do that, because children don't have the development to make rational decisions. to blame the girl tolying and claiming he did nothing wrong, means nothing.

Again a weak comparison here. The teacher knew how old the child was.

lostalex 09-08-2015 07:48 AM

if you have a law that says it's illegal for an adult to have sex with a 14 y/o, that means it applies to everyone equally. it doesn't matter what the CHILD said or lied about. it's the ADULT's job to do the right thing.

How is it that 99.9% of us adults don't have any trouble NOT having sex with 14 y/o's? you people are making it sound like it's such an easy mistake to make.

Benjamin 09-08-2015 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8053424)
if you have a law that says it's illegal for an adult to have sex with a 14 y/o, that means it applies to everyone equally. it doesn't matter what the CHILD said or lied about. it's the ADULT's job to do the right thing.

How is it that 99.9% of us adults don't have any trouble NOT having sex with 14 y/o's? you people are making it sound like it's such an easy mistake to make.

How is the adult to know that it's just a kid if she has said she is 17? A lot of teenagers nowadays look a lot older than they are and it's probably not something that crossed his mind when talking to her that she was only 14. Do you question everyone's ages?

Amy Jade 09-08-2015 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8053422)
remember that story from a few years ago about the british child that ran away to france with her teacher? she swore up and down she was in love with him, and that it's not his fault, children do that, because children don't have the development to make rational decisions. to blame the girl tolying and claiming he did nothing wrong, means nothing.

Again a very weak comparrison since he was a teacher who knew her age and still did what he did.

The guy in this case has stated he would have never slept with her had she told him her real age.

Denver 09-08-2015 08:04 AM

The girl should be locked up what a nasty cow

Denver 09-08-2015 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8053390)
sorry, but 19 and 14 is a huge gap. it might not seem like a lot to most adults, 5 years between adults is not that much, but sorry, ****ing a 14 year old, not okay in my book.

i can't believe so many people in this forum are okay with 19 y/o men going after 14 y/o girls. men need to have the same policy as bartenders, if they are claiming to be anything under 30, and they look under 30, you check ID.

He was clearly online looking for young naive girls to ****. I don't feel the least bit sorry for him. Hopefully this will teach him and all other young guys that read the story to stop trying to **** young girls, and actually create real relationships with adult women their own age.

and for full disclosure I am in a relationship with a guy that is 5 years younger than me, but I am 33 and he is 28, and it's not the same thing at all. And i bet if this was a 19 y/o guy that ****ed a 14 year old boy a lot of you wouldn't have the same opinion.

Who the **** ID's someone there having a one night stand with? Also i think its invasion on privacy to ask for ID for something like that

GypsyGoth 09-08-2015 08:18 AM

He shouldn't have had sex with an underage girl, it's illegal and he deserves to be punished. She shouldn't have lied about her age and the judge should have been wiser and delivered a more just sentence.

Ammi 09-08-2015 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 8053439)
He shouldn't have had sex with an underage girl, it's illegal and he deserves to be punished. She shouldn't have lied about her age and the judge should have been wiser and delivered a more just sentence.

...this really, what he did does merit punishment but the 'punishment should fit the crime' and consider all factors in this case but the judge chose to 'make an example'...

'He met all the qualifications for HYTA [the program for first-time offenders] which would have saved him from having to register on Sex Offender List.'...but this wasn't something considered or disregarded..?...

...apparently the girl had epilepsy/was on medication and her mum was aware she had gone out but didn't ask/know where she had gone to but worried that she was late coming home so called the police...is that also 'responsible' for someone who has a 14yr old with a serious medical condition/taking medication..to not know where they are...which is possibly why I think that she also acknowledges her 'fault' and why this sentencing is so harsh and unjustified and why she defended his actions in court....

Mystic Mock 09-08-2015 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8053424)
if you have a law that says it's illegal for an adult to have sex with a 14 y/o, that means it applies to everyone equally. it doesn't matter what the CHILD said or lied about. it's the ADULT's job to do the right thing.

How is it that 99.9% of us adults don't have any trouble NOT having sex with 14 y/o's? you people are making it sound like it's such an easy mistake to make.

I saw a picture of a 14 year old UK Soapstar recently, and she looked 16/17, make-up can make girls look older than they actually are.

Of course there's no evidence to suggest that his innocent, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was duped considering the girls Mother is even backing him up on this.


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