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arista 26-08-2015 10:44 AM

Jeremy Corbyn is asking for women only train carriages
 
http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/wp-cont...le-britain.jpg

Yes Madame
2nd carriage
Pink floor


On you go

http://news.sky.com/story/1541804/co...rain-carriages

Niamh. 26-08-2015 10:45 AM

Why? :/

arista 26-08-2015 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8086692)
Why? :/

Some Women are hassled late night on the tube


To be fair JC put it on his site as idea
and also said Woman will decide

Niamh. 26-08-2015 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8086695)
Some Women are hassled late night on the tube

Some men probably are too and I have no doubt alot of the idiots hassling people are scummy girls too

arista 26-08-2015 10:50 AM

Some women are professional workers
and would prefer - men kept away.


Be nice For Lesbos


Note : There is nothing wrong with being a lesbo

Crimson Dynamo 26-08-2015 10:50 AM

ideal for terrorists to target

bots 26-08-2015 10:50 AM

what that would do is place all the potentially vulnerable together creating more of a target. Crazy

arista 26-08-2015 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8086702)
ideal for terrorists to target

A Female Terrorist
Yes

Iceman 26-08-2015 10:56 AM

What an idiot. He wants to run a country??

arista 26-08-2015 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eoin (Post 8086707)
What an idiot. He wants to run a country??


Its just a idea
at this stage

Cherie 26-08-2015 10:59 AM

Ridiculous how would this work during rush hour if there were room on the women only carriage? Unworkable and stupid

arista 26-08-2015 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8086703)
what that would do is place all the potentially vulnerable together creating more of a target. Crazy

Maybe they would a Female "Butch" Guard
for all pink floor carraiges

arista 26-08-2015 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8086712)
Ridiculous how would this work during rush hour if there were room on the women only carriage? Unworkable and stupid


It works OK in Dubai

arista 26-08-2015 11:03 AM

https://tinablogsalot.files.wordpres...bway-train.jpg

Sorry lads
you are not permitted on the pink floor carriage

Cherie 26-08-2015 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8086714)
It works OK in Dubai

Not been on it, does it get overcrowded like the tube? Or the overhead at rush hour?

arista 26-08-2015 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8086723)
Not been on it, does it get overcrowded like the tube? Or the overhead at rush hour?


Yes but all the women are away from the Randy Men

Cherie 26-08-2015 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8086725)
Yes but all the women are away from the Randy Men

That's their culture though, let's go the whole hog and cover up head to toe :nono:

Kizzy 26-08-2015 11:16 AM

Helps if you read the article... it's a proposed solution for an increase in late night abuse, I haven't heard anyone else coming out with any proactive ideas :/

jackc1806 26-08-2015 11:29 AM

The man's a throwback to the 1970s, he reminds me of Lenin (dramatic but his way of speaking does) and that's not a good thing

arista 26-08-2015 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8086741)
Helps if you read the article... it's a proposed solution for an increase in late night abuse, I haven't heard anyone else coming out with any proactive ideas :/


For Sure

arista 26-08-2015 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackc1806 (Post 8086783)
The man's a throwback to the 1970s, he reminds me of Lenin (dramatic but his way of speaking does) and that's not a good thing



No its just a Online idea
Early Days


He is a Good Future Labour Leader
and has chance to become the PM in 4 and half years

joeysteele 26-08-2015 11:39 AM

Personally I don't agree with it and I also think policing it will be near impossible really.

However, at least,since it is an issue raised by those women who have been harassed and sexually harassed before, especially later in the evening, then to at least be looking at something as to the issue,is better than actually saying and doing nothing.

The women who have been near or actually harassed or sexually harassed or even assaulted are the ones who should be involved in the best way forward as to this and it seems clear Jeremy Corbyn is at the very least someone who will listen to their thoughts and experiences,rather than just pay them lip service like most politicians.

MB. 26-08-2015 11:45 AM

Well that isn't actually even what he said

bots 26-08-2015 11:46 AM

it was unsafe for many travelling late at night on trains in the past, I personally always picked the busiest carriage if i was travelling late at night. I did witness a drunken attack on a passenger, where we all got up and restrained the drunk. Job done.

These days, all trains have cctv installed, so they are much, much safer than they used to be. In fact I haven't seen any incidents since they were installed, so I'm not sure the issue really exists now. Of course there will always be the occasional nutter, but women only carriages aren't going to prevent someone who really wants to cause problems from doing anything.

Cherie 26-08-2015 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8086741)
Helps if you read the article... it's a proposed solution for an increase in late night abuse, I haven't heard anyone else coming out with any proactive ideas :/

I did read the article :hmph: I am in favour of making transport safe for all, there needs to be a police/staff presence rather than making stations and trains automated facilities, a women only carriage is not the solution

arista 26-08-2015 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 8086842)
Personally I don't agree with it and I also think policing it will be near impossible really.

However, at least,since it is an issue raised by those women who have been harassed and sexually harassed before, especially later in the evening, then to at least be looking at something as to the issue,is better than actually saying and doing nothing.

The women who have been near or actually harassed or sexually harassed or even assaulted are the ones who should be involved in the best way forward as to this and it seems clear Jeremy Corbyn is at the very least someone who will listen to their thoughts and experiences,rather than just pay them lip service like most politicians.


But there may be alot

Female "Butch " Guards
willing to save these slick women

Kizzy 26-08-2015 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8086859)
I did read the article :hmph: I am in favour of making transport safe for all, there needs to be a police/staff presence rather than making stations and trains automated facilities, a women only carriage is not the solution

That's not going to be possible putting an officer on every late night service is it?
I doubt if railstaff would relish the idea of playing nanny either, but it's an idea as was the female only carriages.. both have drawbacks.

Kizzy 26-08-2015 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8086874)
But there may be alot

Female "Butch " Guards
willing to save these slick women

I'll do it!... gizza job!

Cherie 26-08-2015 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8086876)
That's not going to be possible putting an officer on every late night service is it?
I doubt if railstaff would relish the idea of playing nanny either, but it's an idea as was the female only carriages.. both have drawbacks.

We used have guards on every train before it all came down to turning a profit don't see why the train companies can't step up here after all it's happening on their watch and their profits are enormous

arista 26-08-2015 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8086881)
I'll do it!... gizza job!


How Nice


Insp.Kizzy

Keeping those Randy Men out of the womens carriage

Cherie 26-08-2015 11:56 AM

It would be interesting to know how many male are assaulted on trains Not sure why women are the focus, it's all very Victorian

arista 26-08-2015 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8086890)
It would be interesting to know how many male are assaulted on trains Not sure why women are the focus, it's all very Victorian


There is a Few younger male ones
but many will never report it
as they are ashamed of it etc


It appears so many late night women office workers
are getting touched up.

I would give them Pepper Spray
but you must be trained to get his their "eyes" good

JoshBB 26-08-2015 12:04 PM

Idk I have mixed feelings about this.

I can't see it being practical, but from what I understand is that these carriages would serve as a choice thing, meaning that it's not segregation as some people have put it, but women if they feel like they might be harassed can go in there.

But yeah it's only an idea and not a policy, he says he will talk to women and they will ultimately decide whether or not it becomes a policy which is very sensible and I respect that. Who knows womens issues better than women?

JoshBB 26-08-2015 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8086890)
It would be interesting to know how many male are assaulted on trains Not sure why women are the focus, it's all very Victorian

There's probably a statistic out there, and I would assume there is a minority of men being assaulted by women, but I know it is overwhelmingly the women being assaulted, we're talking in the 80-90% range..

Cherie 26-08-2015 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8086903)
There's probably a statistic out there, and I would assume there is a minority of men being assaulted by women, but I know it is overwhelmingly the women being assaulted, we're talking in the 80-90% range..

I'm talking about men and women being assaulted by both sexes, I can imagine that a lot of male assaults go unreported, we are not just talking sexual assault here, but physical and verbal as well

Cherie 26-08-2015 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8086899)
Idk I have mixed feelings about this.

I can't see it being practical, but from what I understand is that these carriages would serve as a choice thing, meaning that it's not segregation as some people have put it, but women if they feel like they might be harassed can go in there.

But yeah it's only an idea and not a policy, he says he will talk to women and they will ultimately decide whether or not it becomes a policy which is very sensible and I respect that. Who knows womens issues better than women?

In women only carriages who is going to stop a male getting on? The railways need policing not people who pay massive ticket prices policing themselves

JoshBB 26-08-2015 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8086946)
I'm talking about men and women being assaulted by both sexes, I can imagine that a lot of male assaults go unreported, we are not just talking sexual assault here, but physical and verbal as well

Oh oops yea I forgot thats a thing

I guess some kind of campaign to support male victims of rape/assault/harassment could really help, the whole not-reporting thing is really awful and another product of the patriarchy which affects men too.

But I do think that women are far more affected than men are by things like this.

JoshBB 26-08-2015 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8086952)
In women only carriages who is going to stop a male getting on? The railways need policing not people who pay massive ticket prices policing themselves

& I also think more policing would be wise, a divestment of some defence funds from trident to extra police would be good imo

Kizzy 26-08-2015 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8086886)
We used have guards on every train before it all came down to turning a profit don't see why the train companies can't step up here after all it's happening on their watch and their profits are enormous

If they had manned CCTV in operation on late night trains that would be an ideal solution for me, I agree the duty of care lies with them.

Cherie 26-08-2015 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8086955)
& I also think more policing would be wise, a divestment of some defence funds from trident to extra police would be good imo

I don't think the tax payer should be footing the bill! We already pay outrageous ticket prices for train/ tube travel that can pay for it as part of reinvestment...


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