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Pete. 06-09-2015 03:09 PM

CJ from Eggheads says he was refused Strictly same sex couple as it's a 'family show'
 
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An expert from the BBC show 'Eggheads' claims he was rejected by Strictly Come Dancing because he wanted a same-sex partner.

CJ de Mooi, who is gay, says they opted for the show's host, Jeremy Vine, instead because of his request.

He says his manager had approached the show's producers and they were considering him.

"I thought, as it's now 2015, it's time this format in Britain had a same-sex couple," he told Radio 1's Newsbeat.

CJ de Mooi, who is one of five quiz champions on Eggheads, is also angry about a BBC statement in response to his claims reportedly stating: "Strictly is a family show and we have chosen the traditional format of mixed-sex couples."

He says Strictly bosses are behind the times and believes the fact he wasn't chosen is directly because he wanted to dance with a man.

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cps...bccjdemooi.jpg
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articl...me-sex-partner

erinp5 06-09-2015 10:44 PM

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T* 06-09-2015 10:46 PM

the bbc are trash

MTVN 06-09-2015 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by erinp5 (Post 8124862)

Well that takes the thread in a slightly different direction

MB. 06-09-2015 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by erinp5 (Post 8124862)

oh

Liam- 06-09-2015 11:24 PM

I think it's right to stick with traditional partnerships imo.

Amy Jade 06-09-2015 11:27 PM

I honestly doubt he was ever approached.

smudgie 06-09-2015 11:29 PM

I think he has hit a crisis point in his life.:shrug:
He doesn't look well to me.

erinp5 06-09-2015 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 8124866)
Well that takes the thread in a slightly different direction

The reason I posted it here was to suggest this is the reason he was rejected from Strictly, and nothing to do with same sex dance partners

Black Dagger 07-09-2015 12:29 AM

Probably refused because he's a bellend tbh.

Mystic Mock 07-09-2015 02:19 AM

Wasn't Marcus Collins gonna have a same sex partner last series? But something happened that stopped him from appearing altogether I think.

MTVN 07-09-2015 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by erinp5 (Post 8124919)
The reason I posted it here was to suggest this is the reason he was rejected from Strictly, and nothing to do with same sex dance partners

It sounds like he was basically begging to have himself included in the first place with it saying 'his manager had approached the show's producers and they were considering him', he was probably never that close to getting on there anyway

Mitchell 07-09-2015 11:20 AM

Btw he's got a book out, convenient timing

Tarryn 07-09-2015 11:30 AM

I don't understand how being gay stops you from enjoying dancing with a person of the opposite sex.
It's just dancing.
It's the contrast of a man & woman dancing together. Nothing sexual.
To expect the entire format to change just for him is just wrong.

Crimson Dynamo 07-09-2015 11:48 AM

like that tit ever got approached

unless he was in a bush

markimus 07-09-2015 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tarryn (Post 8125266)
I don't understand how being gay stops you from enjoying dancing with a person of the opposite sex.
It's just dancing.
It's the contrast of a man & woman dancing together. Nothing sexual.
To expect the entire format to change just for him is just wrong.

Absolutely this, to imply the beeb is being discriminatory he would have to show they had rejected him purely on the basis of his sexuality, which is clearly not the case.

The show is about dancing, not sex and to suggest otherwise would put a very different slant on the public perception of the show. If this is a family show then the content should not be inferred as literally sexual, which by extension precludes any implication that a participants sexuality should be reflected in the gender of their partner.

Just a thought, if if this man chooses to stand by the ridiculous assertion that his dancing performances are so intimately linked to sex and sexuality, would he not have been cheating on his real life sexual partner by taking part?:hehe:

Firewire 07-09-2015 08:07 PM

It's not about relationships though so I don't really see why they want "same sex" partners. It's like having equal male and females on BB for example. Dancing always has one man and one woman partner. The fact they don't allow "same sex" couples isn't because it's homophobic.

Ammi 12-09-2015 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 8126031)
It's not about relationships though so I don't really see why they want "same sex" partners. It's like having equal male and females on BB for example. Dancing always has one man and one woman partner. The fact they don't allow "same sex" couples isn't because it's homophobic.

..I haven't read the article so could be completely off but maybe...it's a 'family' time when the show is aired so a bit like a 'Disney prince and princess' type thing for young children who may be watching... and that lady in the pretty dress and that handsome guy dancing beautifully...and how that connects for them..the male/female thing being what they would see as an 'ideal'...?...so carrying on and on with a perceived 'normal'/type thing..?...and so carrying on potential prejudice etc...I mean without reading it, I would say that I could understand why he may want to have a male partner because a male partner is his ideal and perfectly normal to be so.../but I haven't read the article yet...

Ammi 12-09-2015 07:34 AM

..oh just read the title..:laugh:..so yeah, a family show and families are not all male/female parents so...

Ashley. 12-09-2015 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8124905)
I think it's right to stick with traditional partnerships imo.

Why?

joeysteele 12-09-2015 09:17 AM

I think he is being rather petty really.

JoshBB 12-09-2015 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tøm (Post 8124863)
the bbc are trash

I don't think the bbc makes decisions like this

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8124905)
I think it's right to stick with traditional partnerships imo.

???
bit homophobic

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Originally Posted by Tarryn (Post 8125266)
I don't understand how being gay stops you from enjoying dancing with a person of the opposite sex.
It's just dancing.
It's the contrast of a man & woman dancing together. Nothing sexual.
To expect the entire format to change just for him is just wrong.

:clap1:
It's no different

Jøsh 12-09-2015 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 8124868)
oh

This :laugh:

JoshBB 12-09-2015 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 8126031)
It's not about relationships though so I don't really see why they want "same sex" partners. It's like having equal male and females on BB for example. Dancing always has one man and one woman partner. The fact they don't allow "same sex" couples isn't because it's homophobic.

That's because of heteronormativism. You have to challenge the narrative and become more inclusive to LGBT+ people

Firewire 12-09-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8135544)
That's because of heteronormativism. You have to challenge the narrative and become more inclusive to LGBT+ people

It's not heteronormatism. Dancing isn't about sexuality.

Liam- 12-09-2015 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley. (Post 8135467)
Why?

The BBC is a traditional station and male/female dance partnerships is the traditional form of dance, I don't see why they should change that just to pander to the pc brigade, it would look weird and would make a lot of people uncomfortable, which BBC doesn't want, so it's better to stick to tradition and offend nobody than change it and offend a whole lot of people.

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8135493)
???
bit homophobic

I'm a fag for a start and even if I wasn't, it wouldn't be homophobic.

JoshBB 12-09-2015 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8135668)
The BBC is a traditional station and male/female dance partnerships is the traditional form of dance, I don't see why they should change that just to pander to the pc brigade, it would look weird and would make a lot of people uncomfortable, which BBC doesn't want, so it's better to stick to tradition and offend nobody than change it and offend a whole lot of people.



I'm a fag for a start and even if I wasn't, it wouldn't be homophobic.

Yes it would. "tradition" is an excuse to be homophobic, the same way "tradition" was used to support slavery and again during apartheid

Liam- 12-09-2015 11:23 AM

Like Jonathan said, dancing isn't about sexuality, it's about dance, if you start sticking same sex partnerships together just because one of them is gay, then it is about sexuality and to me that would be more harmful than good, like 'look at that queer having dance with a man because he's not man enough to dance with a woman' it's a ridiculous notion, one that's coming from a place of people wanting to turn everything into all rainbows and glitter, it's not needed, Strictly is doing fine and the multitude of gay people that have been on there have done well (questionably) with female partners, it's a complete non issue and it's just a load of fuss being made about nothing.

Liam- 12-09-2015 11:25 AM

'Gay rights' is a brilliant motion and it's made amazing moves in the last decade, but it comes a time where it becomes too much and it starts to become annoying, we have marriage, we have rights, the world is much more accepting to lgbt people in general these days, why push it and shove it down people's throats?

Ninastar 12-09-2015 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8135493)
???
bit homophobic

When you call a gay person Homophobic, it just makes you look stupid. It's not homophobic at all. He's not saying GAY PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER DANCE TOGETHER EVER!!!!! or GAY PEOPLE ARE AWFUL AND SHOULD DIE!!! He's just stating his opinion about traditional dancing.

I'm on the fence. I don't see why they can't just let a gay couple on... I'm sure it will happen soon enough though.

Ninastar 12-09-2015 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8135678)
'Gay rights' is a brilliant motion and it's made amazing moves in the last decade, but it comes a time where it becomes too much and it starts to become annoying, we have marriage, we have rights, the world is much more accepting to lgbt people in general these days, why push it and shove it down people's throats?

Exactly... I don't know what more people can want. We are so lucky to live in a place where we can't be stoned to death for being who we are. What more could we want?

Braden 12-09-2015 12:11 PM

I don't see it as a big deal.

I'd be happy to watch a same-sex couple compete. I found it brilliant that in one of the international versions, two females won the show dancing together.

But I don't see it as homophobic either.

markimus 21-09-2015 07:11 PM

I fail to see anything homophobic about it, they arent having sex, they arent having a relationship, nor are they portraying one.

Homophobia would be discriminating against someone because of their sexuality, not refusing them special priviliges. The participants DANCE together, sexuality has nothing to do with that.

If it were a dating show i might concede the point that provision should be made for people representing their own particular sexual niche. But it isnt a dating show, its a dance show and should be neutral with regard to such matters.

Turn this on its head for a minute, if sexuality is at the core of dancing, does that mean all those mixed sex couples are in some form of sexual relationships? Should we then push the show past the watershed for all that (hetero)sexual activity we are exposing our children to?

Or are they just dancing?

Livia 03-10-2015 03:22 PM

How many of the male professionals have been homosexual over the series? Lots. They danced with female partners... didn't seem to be an issue for them.

Kate! 03-10-2015 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by _LucasMichael_ (Post 8124939)
Probably refused because he's a bellend tbh.

This exact thing

JoshBB 03-10-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8197428)
How many of the male professionals have been homosexual over the series? Lots. They danced with female partners... didn't seem to be an issue for them.

If they're comfortable with female partners then that's good for them. I feel like banning same-sex couples would just be a bit heteronormative tbh.


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