Favourite BBUS winner?
 

Gave my vote to the Red Queen but I love Will and Jun too

Dan

James Hill

Derrick and Dick, but voted Dick

Dan

:clap2:

Will Kirby.

Dan Gheesling as an equally easy second.

Will and it's not even close, best winner of any reality show ever

I like Dan, Rachel and Jun too tho

Close between Jun & Rachel, but I went with Rachel.

It's getting ****ing annoying now can you just stop.

Rachel :love:

+10, like wtf

Based only on them whilst on their winning series because most of them post-show have been awful.

1. Jun
2. Dan
3. Will
4. Lisa
5. Drew
6. Jordan
7. Ian
8. Rachel
9. Hayden
10. Adam
11. Steve
12. Andy
13. Maggie
14. Derrick
15. Boogie
16. Dick

If I had to rank them:
1. Rachel
2. Will
3. Jun
4. Lisa
5. Drew
6. Jordan (I liked her in BB11 but I hated her in BB13)
7. Dan (he was OK in BB10 but I hated him in BB14)
8. Hayden
9. Ian
10. Adam
11. Steve
12. Maggie
13. Andy
14. Derrick
15. Boogie
16. Dick (worst contestant ever)

Definitely Dan, followed by Jun

Who has said that?

Danielle is the best player ever, out of those who didn´t win and Maggie is one of the best game players ever, even though very unlikable.

Danielle Reyes is the best player of all time imo.
I'm not talking about people here I am talking about majority of the fandom and mostly the casual public.

my top 3 players are

1.Dan
2.Will
3.Danielle R

^ OK

If Danielle had won, she would be top 2/3 of best players of all time (Now she is top 5/6). But for now, Will is the best player ever and probably always will be. IMO of course.

Danielle lost because of the bitter jury :/

Danielle lost because they showed all of her and Lisa´s? DR visits to the jury, which hasn´t happened since. Resulting to a bitter jury.

Jun, simply for the fact I preferred Rachel in BB12 than 13 (I liked her in that too but was rooting for Kalia/Daniele/Porsche)

Danielle :clap1:

okay I'm gonna open this can of worms, Danielle is an amazing houseguest it cannot be denied but she is really overrated as a player. Yeah she had a lot of control but decided to take two very strong social players to the final 3 and had no chance of winning.

and to add Lisa is a really underrated player and even Danielle herself admitted recently on twitter that had the jury been in sequester she probably still would've lost.

She would have a great chance of winning if she'd compete now, she purely lost because of a bitter jury.

Jury management is a huge part of the game and it's a big part of what makes shows like Survivor/Big Brother so great. Lisa had an incredible social game and everybody there was her friend so taking her so deep into the game was a huge mistake.

Agreed with all but Danielle's flaw wasn't jury management, it was mostly her DR's (that were seen by the "jury")

Jordan & Rachel

THANK YOU :clap1: Danielle's only options at the final three were to lose 9-1 or 10-0, so considering the control she had throughout the game she really set herself up for failure. She and Jason getting rid of Amy at F4 is easily the worst move that nobody ever likes to bring up.

mhmm Lisa's social game was really darn good. I really don't get the myth behind the DRs being the reason why Danielle lost because if you ignore the DRs Lisa still has a decent number of votes already? Eric and Roddy for sure, Chiara and Josh by extension, prooobably Marcellas, and then probably Tonya and/or Amy as well? I don't think anyone went into it wanting to vote for Danielle and then changed their vote only because of the DRs. I just think that being able to see the DRs allowed all the jurors to double down and do what they already wanted to do. Lisa definitely deserves the credit that she rarely gets because she kicked her game up a notch with the returnee twist and was just really darn likable? She was tight with at least half the jury and was someone that people wanted to give the money to.

mhmm like I said, the fact that people kept Lisa in when she was someone who everyone liked and didn't have an issue giving the money to is a huge plus for her game. I know that the show tries to push forward the idea that there was a double standard between how the jury treated Will and how they treated Danielle, but I don't really see it much at all. I think there's a lot more similarities between Nicole and Danielle and how they played the game and how the jury perceived them, so I think that there was some consistency there.

Also for bitter juries, I find the whole idea of bitter juries garbage? There isn't a set of rules as to how the jury needs to vote so it can't be unfair when a jury doesn't vote for The Correct Winner, since we all have different ideas of who the correct winner should be. And, like, if the "robbed" person handpicked the jury like Danielle in BB3 and Dan in BB14 pretty much did and they couldn't get the votes, that reflects entirely on them rather than the juries.

Oh yeah, i forgot about them keeping Lisa, who the jury liked and who hasn´t pissed anybody off, instead of Amy, who the jury liked less, partly because of her coming back after being evicted.

That was idiotic and didn´t make any sense. But that was a different time and the game was still relatively young.

It's a move that really doesn't get brought up a lot. If Danielle's in the end with Amy she can just say "look, she was already evicted once" and have a much better shot at winning. Once Amy was gone so were Danielle's chances of winning.

If this was a modern season Lisa would have won 5-4 atleast.

I do agree that when they decided to evict Amy instead of Lisa, their chances to win diminished considerably. Have they taken Amy to final 3, either Danielle or Jason would have won the game as the evicted ones would have been too caught up on the fact that Amy was evicted and came back and seed that as a huge "injustice" towards the ones still in the game.

Full ranking of winners:

1. Will
2. Dan
3. Ian
4. Rachel
5. Jun
6. Drew
7. Boogie
8. Jordan
9. Dick
10. Hayden
11. Steve
12. Adam
13. Lisa
14. Maggie
15. Derrick
16. Andy

Seeing this list makes me realize there hasn't been a whole lot of winners that I really liked. Definitely many that I kinda supported or at least found tolerable but not many that I was a huge fan of.

Dan definitely gets my vote.

I like a lot of them, but went for Steve because no one else was going to vote for him lol

Rachel and her rigged win is in the lead?

At least have someone deserving like Will, Jun or Dan in the lead. Heck even Andy was a better winner, he didnt need production help to win like Rachel did.

What would be your full list, Jersey?

My top 5 winners:

1. Dan
2. Jun
3. Maggie
4. Drew
5. Rachel

1. Dan (BB10)
2. Boogie (BB7)
3. Hayden (BB12)
4. Derrick (BB16)
5. Steve (BB17) (borderline orange)
6. Adam (BB9) (I guess?)
7. Rachel (BB13)
8. Ian (BB14)
9. Maggie (BB6) (I guess?)
10. Evel Dick (BB8)
11. Jordan (BB11)
12. Andy (BB15)