Russia Fires Rockets At Isis From Caspian Sea
 

Who needs America
Novo's Putin is taking it over
with Bigger Missiles.


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Quite worrying.I think the Nato and Russia may clash on this.

No Nato
must let the Russians wipe out Isis/Isil



This is a clever move be Russia
In USA they are saying its sad America
could not do the same.
But of course the Lame Duck President
is weak.

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Putin is doing what we in the West should have done a long time ago - fighting fire with even more intense fire. IS HAVE to be eradicated before the entire CIVILISED world is overcome with their toxic and barbaric bloody insanity.

Obama must be crying at the thought of all his extreme Muslim brethren finally getting the crap bombed out of them.

Am I the only one that thinks this will end in tears.
Putin killing the extremists is great, but he is after Assads enemies as well, not so good.

I agree that this is not a PERFECT solution Smudgie, but it is at least a very genuine attempt at some sort of solution. I beleive that it is far better to eradicate a pandemic disease, even if it means later having to address a localised one.

Someone really needs to remind Russia of their place. They are getting a bit too big for their britches.

Agree with this. Russia sees herself as some kind of hero... when the reverse may well turn out to be true.

Fighting the very widely, very thinly spread geurilla forces of ISIS using "really big bombs" will definitely work. Definitely. The logic is infallible: it's based on professional exterminators and their advice for how to deal with wasps' nests. You know. When they're like "throw a basketball at it, that'll probably kill all of them."

Didn't George III say something similar about a scrappy group of colonials?

Russia has never been that bothered about collateral damage.

It's not even about that, unless they actually nuke the entire country off the map. They're trying to fight small, scattered, tribe-like groups of poorly trained (i.e. expendible) fighters using traditional country-vs-county war tactics. It won't work. It didn't work in Afghanistan for the West OR Russia, and it won't work in Syria :shrug:

Yes, I understand.

And... I agree.



*lays down with a cold compress on my head"

Putin does appear to have outplayed Obama in this.

Looking at the mess we have left in Libya after our interference there getting rid of Gadaffi, well it may yet still be that Assad will have to be part of a solution.

As unsavoury as that may be, we have left a mess for the likes if IS to move into form our past efforts in the region, maybe Putin will succeed where Obama and us never could.

Good post Joey.

the whole thing is a mess - but what is the next move to sorting it out ? we need head round a table.

Thank you Kirk and I agree with your first post above too, well said.

Syria and Iraq are completely different 'Theatre of Wars' than Afghanistan and the latest 'intelligence' is that IS are far more organised and orthadox 'tactics-wise' than previously thought. In any event, the 'CIVILISED' nations have to do SOMETHING before it is all too late.

Perhaps then the inimitable Val Kilmer has the answer in his role of Doc Holliday:

I think our hands are tied - and it must not be a usa or uk led action - the world need to act but it aint gonner happen.

Iraq (in the beginning) was (technically) a war on a country though, against an entrenched leadership, with a somewhat standard army with defined bases with military equipment that could be destroyed, and with specific capture / conquer objectives. ISIS is an ideology, there's no leadership that isn't easily replaced, no head of the snake. There's nothing to bomb or capture that won't simply result in more displaced, angry people for them to convert to their hateful way of thinking and use as more cannon fodder.

ISIS is everywhere, you can't bomb it, it's like trying to cure someone of a virus by throwing rocks at them until they die.

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This is what i think too.It's great that IS are getting what they deserve but it's what happens after that concerns me.
There will undoubtedly be a conflict of interests in that region when IS are wiped out.

The old 'Martyr Means Multiplication' crap does not wash with me T.S. I believe in good old maths - the more reductions in a total number, the less that total becomes.

ISIS - like the Islamic religion itself was originally spread - is spread by a combination of intimidation and financial inducement, and very few -- if any --- converts actually believe in its ideologies.

The rationale behind its spread, is the same as that behind the increase in child murder and a host of other crime - there has been no meaningful action taken to stop, punish and deter those responsible.

Success bolsters recruitment, and with each yard forward, with each severed head held aloft, with each ancient monument destroyed with impunity, warped-minded would-be killers flock to join this band of devils. Others, who are more mercenary but guarded, see ISIS unhalted success and decide that the great cash incentives offered to recruits courtesy of the captured oil fields and ransoms paid over to ISIS, are NOW worth the rapidly diminishing risk of being killed for their troubles.

Apathy, lethargy, impotency and dithering on the part of the Western powers have been ISIS's GREATEST recruitment aide.

You are building them up into some mythical status - ISIS is no Hydra. Yes, Commanders and heads can be replaced - but that is so in ANY army, but this is no; 'Cut off its head and two regrows' Hydra scenario.

Start to BEAT them and not only will you deplete their numbers by the 'Dead Injun' method, but those who join for money will think twice, those who have been 'press ganged' into joining ISIS will flee as the chance affords itself, and SUCCESS will breed further success .

They have far reaching tendrils - partly because of Western apathy and lethargy - but they are NOT unbeatable.

There are numerous defunct ideologies, and there is nothing like slaughtering the bastards who hold this evil ideology to ensure that it goes the same way.

I understand your concern Paul, but ISIS are THE singlemost threat to mankind which this world has ever faced. and its TOTAL eradication is all that must concern us at this critical point in time. Any secondary problems caused by eradicating this scum will be easily addressed by comparison.

I agree with everything you have said regarding IS.I just think that Putin has much more up his sleeve.Russian jets have already been detected entering Turkish airspace and Putin has been doing his usual and saying "it was an accident" which it clearly was'nt.Turkey have said they'll react with force if it happens again and NATO are backing them since they are a member state.I think Putin has yet again out witted Obama which i also think is dangerous.The US will be on high alert watching every move that Putin makes and if they don't like what they are seeing it will definately cause tensions.
Imo Russia is only in this for Russia and has longer term plans.Our media are already discrediting what Putin is doing which i think wether they are right or wrong,It is a dangerous sign.

Hillary knows how to deal with Putin. She will stare down that beady-eye'd, man titty having, napoleon-wannabe little nerd.

She will tell him how things are, and he ain't gonna do nothin about it. She is the strong leader we need to counter Putin.



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I am pleased Russia has got involved in the battle to destroy these terrorists. they will seek out and destroy from the air all Isis and other terrorist group's assets and then Hezbollah or Iranian troops will go in on the ground and try wipe out the remaining pockets of Isis resistance.

Last time I looked Russia had been invited by the Syrian Govt (still a Sovereign Nation) to help them fight the Chaos enveloping their Country. I don't care one bit which terrorist group Russia destroys ,I hope Russia wipes them all out as they are all fanatical murderers. I'm not saying Assad is any better but he had, up to 18 Months ago control of his Country and it's borders.

Now after constant meddling by other World powers pursuing their own selfish geopolitical agendas Syria is a mess, awash with all manner of weaponry and now in the hands of subhuman slime.

It's time to drain the cesspit and try and bring order back where currently there is only anarchy. if that means Assad stays in power for a few more years then so be it, he will be gone in a few years anyhow one way or another.

The current problem is the 50 or so terrorists groups running around Syria armed to the teeth killing men, women and children in the most barbaric ways imaginable.

The West really needs to get a grip and stop playing politics with people's lifes, if Russia is the only Country big enough and strong enough to make a stand and tackle this growing and dangerous problem then that's Ok, Putin gets my vote.

North Korea is also a Sovereign nation, would you also support Russia if they were dropping bombs on rebels fighting to free their country from their undemocratic tyrannical leader KIM ILL UNG JONG whatever the **** his name is?

and just exactly what is "their place"..?

Typical response from an American sheep who knows nothing about the world they live in other than what they have been fed through a prism of right wing neo con claptrap coupled with a right wing media that would make Hitler blush.

that's a disgustingly racist generalization of Americans Nedusa, shame on you.

Russia's place is a former communist country that still has major problems with freedom of press, homophobia, corruption i mean basically they are being taken over by the KGB from the 80's. They are a tiny power with more than enough problems at home to be trying to pretend to be a super power. There is nothing super or powerful about Russia. how do you not see that?

Russia has "annexed land"(invaded and stolen) from 2 countries in the last 8 years.

Yep. It's a corrupt and dangerous country imo

OK...My apologies Lostalex but you always seem to have a lot of anger towards Russia

considering i am a gay man, you should expect i would.

I wonder how long it will take for Russia to bomb the Kurds for Assad?

considering the rate Putin has ramped things up and his ZERO ****s given about the rest of the world, i wouldn't be shocked if he nuked Kiev tomorrow. He really is acting like a man that has no ****s to give.

British troops being stationed in the Baltic states to 'Deter more Russian agression'.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34472739

Yeah, that's what worries me. Putin thinks he is free to do whatever he likes and at the moment, he pretty much is. If he joined up with the rest of the world trying to fight IS and bring about the end of the conflict in Syria it'd be a great coup... sadly he's got his own agenda.

He doesn't care about people. not even his own people. He cares about being a historical figure. he's a megalomaniac. just look at how he orchestrated his presidency, having a stand in to get around the limitations of presidential terms with Medvedev as his puppet, just waiting in the wings that whole time scheming. he really is a scary nefarious character. The narcissistic photo opportunities he insists on killing tigers or going deep sea diving. he's a lunatic.

Hillary definitely knows this and would not give him a ****ing inch.

Agree, lostalex.

And he has cold, dead, shark eyes.

if he was born in America i have no doubt he would have been one of those kids that shoots up his school because he was too short to get on the football team and no girl would go to prom with him.