Looking back what a dreadful series
 

Did anyone actually enjoy this series

you don't need to look back to realise that

Looking back?

It was dreadful at the time

I really enjoyed it, a lot more enjoyable than all of C5's civilians except for 14.

It was the worst ever for me after 12.

The CBB's this year have both been great though :love:

Decent first two weeks or so then one big fat flop mess of a show.

Yeah I was gonna say the same :laugh: It was painfully obvious while it was airing just how bad a series it was. Total mess the whole way through.

I miss Marc and Eileen.

I agree with this.

It was lining up to be a great series until 4in4out, then it became worse than BB15 if that was even possible.

The first two weeks were boring sorry

Yeah i agree with that. getting rid of 4 so early on and then sending the past HMs as well killed the series

The first two weeks are only boring if you find constant drama/arguments entertaining. I personally enjoyed the first two weeks of BB16 as they were very reminiscent of the C4 days and it was all natural without any meddling, which was quite refreshing for a series which followed BB15 and CBB15 which were the complete opposite of that.

Yes absolutely agree. I'd really like to see a series that just lets relationships/arguments etc develop naturally. They're making it too much like TOWIE nowadays.

No it was boring because nothing of interest happened

The latest CBB had natural drama

The good old days are gone and are never coming back.

You will watch what the producers want to edit for you to watch and you will like it or lump it.

That's the way it is, know your place.

ish....Janice, farrah and Austin are professional Reality Stars, i don't believe for a second that most of their dramas weren't thought out

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These days it's more of an entertainment show rather than a reality show (which it used to be). I love drama and arguments as much as anyone else does but if it's being manufactured by the producers meddling instead of natural relationships between the other housemates, then I might as well watch TOWIE or any other scripted reality show.

Either way it didnt rely on BB to start it off like in BB16

Is there any "Reality" TV shows left that are actually reality and not just entertainment? Maybe The Voice, probably why I watch that and not X Factor anymore

And I can get over it when it's CBB but I want normal BB to be more normal

^

Probably IAC, although that's now starting to go downhill over the past few years.

Actually no, I can't think of anything :worry:

Bad Girls Club ofc

CBB16 was an improvement on the last 4 series we've had in the last year or so. Although that Jarrah secret room was another example of meddling from the producers part to create more drama which backfired.

There wasnt much in CBB15 either

Also BB14 started it all off

CBB15 was the epitome of producer meddling. :umm2:

I cant remember any except Perez secret room?

Remind me please.

I enjoyed it, thanks to the lovely Christian. What a cutie!

Perez Secret Room
Alexander's walking/ejection (whatever it was, it wasn't shown to us and hidden from viewers)
Begging Perez to stay in on numerous occasions after him wanting to walk
Tasks which involve what housemates previously said about each other in the DR
Constant little/useless twists, such as the King and Queen thing, KP's nomination thing

Showing the footage of Perez in the Secret Room to the main house after he came back (the parts where he spoke badly about Cami and Hopkins ) - which erupted into an argument (producers got what they wanted) tick.

Final pass/eternal nomination = BB15 Final pass and Killer nomination

Thanks

Did CBB13 and CBB14 have much? Obviously BB15 did :think:

CBB14 didn't have much twists like BB15 did, but it was centered solely on conflict as well two housemates. I think CBB14 toned down, but it was a tiresome drag with the whole house picking on Gary storyline.

CBB13 did too. But it was done in a smart way and it wasn't centered around arguments 24/7 (BB15). You had Jim and Linda (enemies) being paired together or even cast in the same series, the secret room, Jasmine's nomination thing (where she saved Linda and Casey :joker:) That's all I can think of, tbh.

TBH I think every series since the show has moved to C5 has had some sort of meddling in one way or another. I mean they even had meddling on C4, but C5 just take it too far and it's always about creating fake drama which is tiring.

BB13 literally had nothing, no secret room, only one nominations twist.

CBB11 and BB14 started it which is why it annoys me when people say BB4 felt like a C4 series. It really didn't. :umm2:

Yeah, but with BB14 it was new and it wasn't 100% conflict like BB15 and CBB15. I think meddling only worked well in CBB13 and BB14, but C5 have now made a habit of it.

Yeah, BB13 is brilliant.

BB14 was all trying to cause conflict, letting Gina and Dexter spy, giving Gna the queen bee task KNOWING she would se it on Hazel, showing nominations constantly, face to face ones around four times, the secret puppet or whatever, putting Daley and Hazel in the safe house together. It was just as bad as BB15, they were just lucky the BB14 cast was better than BB15's.

come to think of it, that's true.

Yep, this why they've had so many ejections too over the last few years

Yeah this actually true. Ironically, BB15 didn't have any

Helen should have been, she only got like 700 warnings or something :laugh:

I actually think BB15 could have been good if Helen went around week three