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arista 16-10-2015 01:12 AM

German hunter pays £39,000 to shoot largest elephant in Africa
 
You Bastard
I want a Lion to Eat You.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...4939655988.jpg


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...game-park.html


EVil German

Novo 16-10-2015 01:23 AM

the worst kind of people on earth, the quicker game hunting is banned for good the better, how these hunters think they can buy a animal's life is disgusting

arista 16-10-2015 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NovoBaratheon (Post 8227621)
the worst kind of people on earth, the quicker game hunting is banned for good the better, how these hunters think they can buy a animal's life is disgusting


Bang On Right Novo

Cherie 16-10-2015 07:19 AM

Makes me sick to look at him, the way the elephant has gone down as if he is sleeping makes me want to cry

arista 16-10-2015 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8227739)
Makes me sick to look at him


He needs to be Put Down
no care for our childrens Future

DemolitionRed 16-10-2015 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NovoBaratheon (Post 8227621)
the worst kind of people on earth, the quicker game hunting is banned for good the better, how these hunters think they can buy a animal's life is disgusting

Totally :bawling:

Its gun totting madness and its is all about his own insecurities. The bigger and rarer and wilder the game, the better he feels about himself.

Men like this are just about as sick as they come.

Cal. 16-10-2015 07:26 AM

People should raise money to pay for his life and shoot him. Knob.

Josy 16-10-2015 08:06 AM

Eurgh.

Time to stick them all in a reserve and let people pay money to hunt them!

Crimson Dynamo 16-10-2015 08:20 AM

I could not click that article in the DM today. I just cannot understand how anyone could do this.

bots 16-10-2015 08:38 AM

Humans have been hunter killers since we first started walking the earth. Its not pleasant, but that's what we are.

Livia 16-10-2015 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8227762)
Humans have been hunter killers since we first started walking the earth. Its not pleasant, but that's what we are.

You're not including me in the "we" are you? And how long has it been since you paid a fortune to shoot a wild animal?

Humans were "hunter killers" (very sexy name for something quite primeval) in order to eat. That's completely different from someone who kills an animal for fun probably because it's the only way he can get a stiffy.

I wish this man (and I use the word "man" in its loosest possible sense) tragedy and death.

Kizzy 16-10-2015 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8227762)
Humans have been hunter killers since we first started walking the earth. Its not pleasant, but that's what we are.

We were hunter gatherers, and you're missing out the evolutionary bit. Do you think for one second neolithic people would've hunted if there was a steakhouse on every corner?
This isn't a sport it's a sick mans fantasy, making thinks more rare, beautiful and powerful than you dead. I am firmly of the mind that all that kill for 'sport' are ill in the head.

Kyle 16-10-2015 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 8227741)
Totally :bawling:

Its gun totting madness and its is all about his own insecurities. The bigger and rarer and wilder the game, the better he feels about himself.

Men like this are just about as sick as they come.

One of the most infamous trophy hunters is a woman.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...r_2736129c.jpg

bots 16-10-2015 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8227763)
You're not including me in the "we" are you? And how long has it been since you paid a fortune to shoot a wild animal?

Humans were "hunter killers" (very sexy name for something quite primeval) in order to eat. That's completely different from someone who kills an animal for fun probably because it's the only way he can get a stiffy.

I wish this man (and I use the word "man" in its loosest possible sense) tragedy and death.

The point i was making is that it is a basic instinct that every single human being has. Granted, its not necessary these days, but it is still what we are.

I have paid to go fishing, it is a legal sport here in the UK, and as long as it remains legal I will continue to do it.

Livia 16-10-2015 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8227782)
The point i was making is that it is a basic instinct that every single human being has. Granted, its not necessary these days, but it is still what we are.

I have paid to go fishing, it is a legal sport here in the UK, and as long as it remains legal I will continue to do it.

A fish not an elephant. What did you do with the fish, did you eat it or throw it back?

Shooting an animal for thousands of dollars with a high-powered rifle with no risk at all to yourself is not a basic instinct.

Livia 16-10-2015 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 8227780)
One of the most infamous trophy hunters is a woman.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...r_2736129c.jpg

One out of how many?

Kizzy 16-10-2015 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8227782)
The point i was making is that it is a basic instinct that every single human being has. Granted, its not necessary these days, but it is still what we are.

I have paid to go fishing, it is a legal sport here in the UK, and as long as it remains legal I will continue to do it.

Get some perspective, are you trying to equate illegal big game hunting with fishing for tiddlers?...

Kyle 16-10-2015 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8227786)
One out of how many?

Even if she is the only woman in the world that picks up a compound bow and shoots a lion with it for the thrill then it's no longer only men that do it.

bots 16-10-2015 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8227785)
A fish not an elephant. What did you do with the fish, did you eat it or throw it back?

Shooting an animal for thousands of dollars with a high-powered rifle with no risk at all to yourself is not a basic instinct.

Was the elephant an endangered species? Was the hunter breaking the law? If the answer to both questions is no, then there is no justification for the outcry toward the hunter. Lobby to get elephants protected, lobby to get hunting banned. It is completely wrong to target people for doing things if they are perfectly legal.

Livia 16-10-2015 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8227798)
Was the elephant an endangered species? Was the hunter breaking the law? If the answer to both questions is no, then there is no justification for the outcry toward the hunter. Lobby to get elephants protected, lobby to get hunting banned. It is completely wrong to target people for doing things if they are perfectly legal.

There are two way to look at this. If it's legal, is it automatically moral? Well, no, it isn't. Also, this is Zimbabwe we're talking about. Zimbabwe. Possibly one of the most corrupt regimes in the world so you assuming this is all perfectly legal and above board because someone in Zimbabwe who probably makes money out of this disgusting trade, says it is.

Kizzy 16-10-2015 10:09 AM

'The most disappointing thing is that when a local Zimbabwean kills an animal for food for his family, he is sentenced to between 5 and 15 years in prison but when a wealthy foreign hunter comes in and shoots an animal, he gets away with it. What message are we giving the people?'

Kazanne 16-10-2015 10:43 AM

Whoever does this ,man OR woman is pond life imo,and someone who thinks that this is 'ok' is as bad , there is no hope for humanity as long as dregs like this keep getting stiffys by cowardly shooting an animal that has never done them any harm ,I hope there is a mass backlash on this as there was with Cecil,we can do good IF we can get barbarity like this banned,I hope the shooter gets trampled on by the biggest elephant in the herd ,but no such luck eh?

joeysteele 16-10-2015 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8227763)
You're not including me in the "we" are you? And how long has it been since you paid a fortune to shoot a wild animal?

Humans were "hunter killers" (very sexy name for something quite primeval) in order to eat. That's completely different from someone who kills an animal for fun probably because it's the only way he can get a stiffy.

I wish this man (and I use the word "man" in its loosest possible sense) tragedy and death.

Strong post and points and well said too.

I just get sickened hearing about these things, I agree with Josy have people pay to hunt the so called hunters.

bots 16-10-2015 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8227830)
There are two way to look at this. If it's legal, is it automatically moral? Well, no, it isn't. Also, this is Zimbabwe we're talking about. Zimbabwe. Possibly one of the most corrupt regimes in the world so you assuming this is all perfectly legal and above board because someone in Zimbabwe who probably makes money out of this disgusting trade, says it is.

You don't win cases in court based on morality. I don't want to come across as overly harsh, but there is a point of principle here. Those suggesting the hunter should be killed etc, are actually in instances like this more in the wrong than the hunter

There are ways to change these things, by changing peoples views, lobbying for protection and getting these things made illegal. Lynch parties are not the solution.

Lostie! 16-10-2015 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovoBaratheon (Post 8227621)
the worst kind of people on earth, the quicker game hunting is banned for good the better, how these hunters think they can buy a animal's life is disgusting

Perfectly said. :clap1:

Stuff like this will never fail to infuriate me. ****ing dickheads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8227748)
Eurgh.

Time to stick them all in a reserve and let people pay money to hunt them!

:clap1:

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8227782)
The point i was making is that it is a basic instinct that every single human being has. Granted, its not necessary these days, but it is still what we are.

I have paid to go fishing, it is a legal sport here in the UK, and as long as it remains legal I will continue to do it.

I've never had an "instinct" to go shooting animals for no reason. :shrug:

It's not what "we" are, it's what some people are. Some really backwards, bloodthirsty people.

DemolitionRed 16-10-2015 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 8227780)
One of the most infamous trophy hunters is a woman.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...r_2736129c.jpg

I'm aware of that but this thread wasn't about her, it was about the guy who shot an elephant.

DemolitionRed 16-10-2015 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8227939)
You don't win cases in court based on morality. I don't want to come across as overly harsh, but there is a point of principle here. Those suggesting the hunter should be killed etc, are actually in instances like this more in the wrong than the hunter

There are ways to change these things, by changing peoples views, lobbying for protection and getting these things made illegal. Lynch parties are not the solution.

Are you saying that a lawyer should never talk or believe there is such a thing as unfair or unjust laws? laws that are immoral or harmful or morally unfair?

We are bound to get some emotional reactions with a story like this. This sort of story causes extreme anger and distress and those emotions are bound to create some very harsh reactions.

Good samaritans have been lobbying to protect such animals for many years. Charitable organizations have been educating entire colonies of people about the wrongs of the ivory trade and fur trade but these countries are desperately poor, so when some hobnob westerner comes along with more money than they could ever dream imaginable, big game trophies will continue to be slaughtered.

The people we need to educate are the westerners but where do we find them? how do we even know who they are? Naming and shaming seems to be the only tool we presently have.

Kizzy 16-10-2015 01:19 PM

They have money we should let them do what they want? The golden rule eh.... Is that the thinking in this 'civilised society'?

arista 16-10-2015 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 8227984)
I'm aware of that but this thread wasn't about her, it was about the guy who shot an elephant.


Yes lets have one at a time


Thanks DR

DemolitionRed 16-10-2015 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8228062)
Yes lets have one at a time


Thanks DR

If that's your attempt at sarcasm you should try harder.

This was what I first posted: Its gun totting madness and its is all about his own insecurities. The bigger and rarer and wilder the game, the better he feels about himself.

Men like this are just about as sick as they come.


Yes, I was replying to the initial post and said the word "man" not "men and women"...so shoot me :hehe:

Cherie 16-10-2015 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 8228106)
If that's your attempt at sarcasm you should try harder.

This was what I first posted: Its gun totting madness and its is all about his own insecurities. The bigger and rarer and wilder the game, the better he feels about himself.

Men like this are just about as sick as they come.


Yes, I was replying to the initial post and said the word "man" not "men and women"...so shoot me :hehe:



I don't think that was sarcasm, just agreeing with you about the thread being about the german hunter

DemolitionRed 16-10-2015 02:25 PM

Well if that's the case, my apologies to arista

bots 16-10-2015 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 8228016)
Are you saying that a lawyer should never talk or believe there is such a thing as unfair or unjust laws? laws that are immoral or harmful or morally unfair?

We are bound to get some emotional reactions with a story like this. This sort of story causes extreme anger and distress and those emotions are bound to create some very harsh reactions.

Good samaritans have been lobbying to protect such animals for many years. Charitable organizations have been educating entire colonies of people about the wrongs of the ivory trade and fur trade but these countries are desperately poor, so when some hobnob westerner comes along with more money than they could ever dream imaginable, big game trophies will continue to be slaughtered.

The people we need to educate are the westerners but where do we find them? how do we even know who they are? Naming and shaming seems to be the only tool we presently have.

With respect the views expressed on this thread have been a lot stronger than that. It is from reactions such as these that people take irresponsible actions into their own hands and end up being on the wrong side of the law.

Illegal Lynch mobs are not going to achieve anything.

Kizzy 16-10-2015 02:50 PM

It's just a knee jerk reaction however isn't it? only a fool would attempt to combat mindless violence with more mindless violence.

Jordan. 16-10-2015 02:55 PM

He needs one of the tusks shoving down his throat

Livia 16-10-2015 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8227939)
You don't win cases in court based on morality. I don't want to come across as overly harsh, but there is a point of principle here. Those suggesting the hunter should be killed etc, are actually in instances like this more in the wrong than the hunter

There are ways to change these things, by changing peoples views, lobbying for protection and getting these things made illegal. Lynch parties are not the solution.

I am well aware what wins in court. However, that doesn't mean much in Zimbabwe. I'm not suggesting he be killed, however I would have a Thatcher-style party if he and all his ridiculous mates died.

What do you think organisations like the IFAW have been doing for decades? But money talks... There is no justification for what this man's done, whether you believe it was legal or not.

Niamh. 16-10-2015 02:58 PM

So sad to see such a beautiful animal in a picture like that. He doesn't even look dead. I don't understand the thrill of killing an elephant with a gun like that, where's the bravery in it? Or what's the big achievement there?

JoshBB 16-10-2015 03:07 PM

We need to change the punishment for hunting from fines to short jail sentences - otherwise rich people can just pay the cost to keep doing it. I'm sure a criminal record would serve as a deterrent.

JoshBB 16-10-2015 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 8227780)
One of the most infamous trophy hunters is a woman.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...r_2736129c.jpg

Don't even get me started on this awful excuse for a human being

Niamh. 16-10-2015 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8228326)
We need to change the punishment for hunting from fines to short jail sentences - otherwise rich people can just pay the cost to keep doing it. I'm sure a criminal record would serve as a deterrent.

Maybe a substantial fine as well to be donated to preserving endangered species


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