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Headie 07-11-2015 01:20 PM

The Voice UK 'to leave the BBC' after fifth series [ITV have "poached it"]
 
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The next series of The Voice UK will be the last to be broadcast on the BBC, after it was "poached by another broadcaster", the corporation says.
Mark Linsey, acting director of BBC Television, said in a statement that it "wouldn't get into a bidding war or pay inflated prices to keep the show".
The next series, which begins in January, will be the fifth to be shown by the BBC.
The show's new broadcaster has not yet been confirmed.
Mr Linsey said: "The BBC is incredibly proud of The Voice, but the fifth series which starts in January will be our last.
"We always said we wouldn't get into a bidding war or pay inflated prices to keep the show, and it's testament to how the BBC has built the programme up - and established it into a mainstay of the Saturday night schedule - that another broadcaster has poached it."
Funding politics
Last month the BBC said it had made a "final" bid to keep the show for two more years.
Boy George and Paloma Faith will join will.i.am and Ricky Wilson on the judging panel for the next series.
The show is currently made for BBC One by production companies Talpa and Wall to Wall. ITV bought Talpa for £355m earlier this year.
The Voice was singled out in a consultation paper published by the government, ahead of the BBC's charter renewal, as a format that is "similar to ITV's X Factor", and which was bought in from overseas rather than being developed in-house.
Culture Secretary John Whittingdale has questioned whether such shows are "distinctive" enough from those aired by commercial rivals.
In August, the BBC's director of television Danny Cohen - who is leaving his role at the end of November - defended the corporation's right to air entertainment shows like The Voice.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34756063
This probably means The Voice Kids will happen too.

I doubt it will replace X Factor since it will probably still air in the same time frame it did on BBC. So The Voice at the start, then BGT, then X Factor each year in that order.

Headie 07-11-2015 01:23 PM

Rumours are that The Voice Kids will air on either CITV or ITV2 as part of the successful bid deal.

I hope they air The Voice USA on ITV2 like they did with X Factor USA :fc:

Denver 07-11-2015 01:25 PM

I think the Voice Kids will air in January as DOI replacement and the Voice will Replace the X Factor 2017

Pete. 07-11-2015 01:26 PM

Why would ITV buy it?

arista 07-11-2015 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8270572)
Rumours are that The Voice Kids will air on either CITV or ITV2 as part of the successful bid deal.

I hope they air The Voice USA on ITV2 like they did with X Factor USA :fc:

Yes good for ITV2HD

Denver 07-11-2015 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete. (Post 8270579)
Why would ITV buy it?

Because they own the company and its a great replacement for the X Factor which is highly likely to be axed

Headie 07-11-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8270584)
Because they own the company and its a great replacement for the X Factor which is highly likely to be axed

I doubt X Factor will be axed. Simon Cowell has practically said X Factor is returning next year.

Jack_ 07-11-2015 01:36 PM

Well on one hand the pretentiousness from this government is beyond pathetic, but then on the other this show in its current form is diabolical, and dare I say that if ITV get their hands on it and have Simon Cowell involved in the production, there might finally be some entertainment injected into the format

I was under the impression the BBC commissioned two series to take them to 2017 earlier this year though? So this is surprising news

Cal. 07-11-2015 01:36 PM

ITV have too many of this kind. However, maybe it could work as a Dancing On Ice replacement.

Tom4784 07-11-2015 01:38 PM

X Factor won't go anywhere. The Voice will just be at the start of the year as usual, I expect. It'll be the DOI replacement.

They'll have The Voice at the start of the year, that'll lead into BGT and then that'll give way for X Factor with two or so months inbetween each one.

Jordan. 07-11-2015 01:38 PM

Not ITV snatching it away. Doesn't really matter apart from the fact it'll be filled with a million ad breaks.

Denver 07-11-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8270593)
I doubt X Factor will be axed. Simon Cowell has practically said X Factor is returning next year.

The contract for X Factor ends next year, I do not See ITV wanting to renew it

zakman440 07-11-2015 01:41 PM

A sad day for the BBC. This government really is ruining one of the finest broadcasters in the world.

Denver 07-11-2015 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by zakman440 (Post 8270605)
A sad day for the BBC. This government really is ruining one of the finest broadcasters in the world.

All David Cameron cares about is lining his pockets just like the rest of his party.

Tom4784 07-11-2015 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8270604)
The contract for X Factor ends next year, I do not See ITV wanting to renew it

They'll renew it, it's their best shot against SCD and it's got the premium demographic when it comes to Target Audience. They won't replace it with The Voice, the only reason why The Voice does well is because it has no competition at the start of the year. It would get slaughtered up against SCD and the target audience for it isn't as good.

Denver 07-11-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8270609)
They'll renew it, it's their best shot against SCD and it's got the premium demographic when it comes to Target Audience. They won't replace it with The Voice, the only reason why The Voice does well is because it has no competition at the start of the year. It would get slaughtered up against SCD and the target audience for it isn't as good.

SCD is absolutely slaughtering it and ITV will not want a show which gets 5 million over night when 5 years before it was 15 million.

BlankSpace 07-11-2015 01:49 PM

What's SCD again? :hehe:

Denver 07-11-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8270609)
They'll renew it, it's their best shot against SCD and it's got the premium demographic when it comes to Target Audience. They won't replace it with The Voice, the only reason why The Voice does well is because it has no competition at the start of the year. It would get slaughtered up against SCD and the target audience for it isn't as good.

Also the Voice would do much better if it was produced better and had better mentors.

Denver 07-11-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BlankSpace (Post 8270617)
What's SCD again? :hehe:

Strictly Come Dancing.

BlankSpace 07-11-2015 01:51 PM

Oh, I can't believe I didn't know that :joker:

Tom4784 07-11-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8270615)
SCD is absolutely slaughtering it and ITV will not want a show which gets 5 million over night when 5 years before it was 15 million.

5 Million is fine because the majority of that audience is part of the younger demographic which is gold dust to advertisers. An advertiser will pay through the nose to advertise during the XF ad breaks and that's why ITV will keep it because it's still the highest rated program on a channel with advertising at this time of year.

The whole ratings battle with SCD is meaningless, it's just cross promotion for both shows.

Crimson Dynamo 07-11-2015 01:55 PM

Bring Back Tom

Denver 07-11-2015 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8270623)
5 Million is fine because the majority of that audience is part of the younger demographic which is gold dust to advertisers. An advertiser will pay through the nose to advertise during the XF ad breaks and that's why ITV will keep it because it's still the highest rated program on a channel with advertising at this time of year.

The whole ratings battle with SCD is meaningless, it's just cross promotion for both shows.

You can't deny the X Factor is a dying format they have tampered with it to the point of no return.

It needs a rest if its ever going to be taken seriously again or the axe.

Denver 07-11-2015 01:57 PM

I hope Simon doesn't get any control otherwise its going to be destroyed.

Denver 07-11-2015 01:57 PM

I wonder who ITV will choose as mentors? As they have a habit of having non singers on there talent shows.

Tom4784 07-11-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8270627)
You can't deny the X Factor is a dying format they have tampered with it to the point of no return.

It needs a rest if its ever going to be taken seriously again or the axe.

None of that has any relevance to anything I said.

Denver 07-11-2015 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8270631)
None of that has any relevance to anything I said.

If 5 million is fine why did the axe DOI?

Tom4784 07-11-2015 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8270641)
If 5 million is fine why did the axe DOI?

Demographics, like I said before.

DOI had an older demographic which isn't attractive to advertisers if the viewership isn't there. X Factor has a better demographic so the advertising money will keep it going until it loses that young viewership because it's still the best rated weekend show on an advertisement based channel.

Denver 07-11-2015 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8270649)
Demographics, like I said before.

DOI had an older demographic which isn't attractive to advertisers if the viewership isn't there. X Factor has a better demographic so the advertising money will keep it going until it loses that young viewership because it's still the best rated weekend show on an advertisement based channel.

There is actually no proof of this at all.

Tom4784 07-11-2015 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8270653)
There is actually no proof of this at all.

Go look up some audience figures, sweetie.

I'm coming from a place of knowledge and logic, you aren't. I know advertising and I know marketing. I know what I'm talking about and you simply do not.

Headie 07-11-2015 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8270656)
Go look up some audience figures, sweetie.

I'm coming from a place of knowledge and logic, you aren't. I know advertising and I know marketing. I know what I'm talking about and you simply do not.

It's like talking to a brick wall. I wouldn't bother Dezzy :laugh:

Denver 07-11-2015 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8270656)
Go look up some audience figures, sweetie.

I'm coming from a place of knowledge and logic, you aren't. I know advertising and I know marketing. I know what I'm talking about and you simply do not.

Do you enjoy trying to belittle people.

So go dam rude that your calling me thick and you call yourself a mod

Tom4784 07-11-2015 02:33 PM

Adam, look at the advertising during tonight's X Factor, I can guarantee you that most of it will be aimed at a teenage/young adult audience.

Also look at the show itself. It's got a heavy Social Media presence, apps based around it and the average age of the judging panel itself is 35, 28 if you take Simon Cowell out of the equation. It's all around the younger audience it's built up because that audience is the lifeblood of the show.

When you look at DOI and SCD and the like you'll see a massive difference because their audiences are more general and on the older side.

Denver 07-11-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8270676)
Adam, look at the advertising during tonight's X Factor, I can guarantee you that most of it will be aimed at a teenage/young adult audience.

Also look at the show itself. It's got a heavy Social Media presence, apps based around it and the average age of the judging panel itself is 35, 28 if you take Simon Cowell out of the equation. It's all around the younger audience it's built up because that audience is the lifeblood of the show.

When you look at DOI and SCD and the like you'll see a massive difference because their audiences are more general and on the older side.

I'm not denying its targeting for the younger people I'm staying I believe ITV will decide to axe it and replace it with The Voice and that's my opinion.

Tom4784 07-11-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8270673)
Do you enjoy trying to belittle people.

So go dam rude that your calling me thick and you call yourself a mod

'A mod has the AUDACITY to know what he's talking about?! Even though I basically accused him of lying and talking out of his ass, I'm gonna act like a victim, puts words in his mouth and bring up the fact that he's a mod because I got into an argument I can't win.'

So boring, always the same too. I can't get into a discussion with someone without them getting salty about losing and bringing up personal remarks about me being a mod.

Tom4784 07-11-2015 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8270678)
I'm not denying its targeting for the younger people I'm staying I believe ITV will decide to axe it and replace it with The Voice and that's my opinion.

It's a flawed opinion and it's well within my rights to say it is because that's MY opinion on the matter.

They wouldn't replace a show with a steadfast younger following with The Voice which is a show that can't compete in the ratings with ITV's talent shows which is why, from the second season onwards, it aired at the start of the year so it wouldn't have competition.

It couldn't compete with BGT, it's not going to do better than XF against SCD.

Samm 07-11-2015 02:54 PM

I hope they make it more interesting

kirklancaster 07-11-2015 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8270625)
Bring Back Tom

Yes - Bring him back. I'm not really bothered about watching the show now TBH.

Niamh. 08-11-2015 02:57 PM

Ugh ITV will ruin it

arista 08-11-2015 09:24 PM

There is another thread
needs to be merged with this


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