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Shaun 20-11-2015 05:06 PM

Simon: "Ben is going to have a top five album this week".
 
Oops.

Denver 20-11-2015 05:07 PM

I've heard its top 5 in Myanmar

Samm 20-11-2015 05:42 PM

lol.

Smithy 20-11-2015 05:43 PM

I feel bad for him tbh, he's been managed so badly compared to fleur

Crimson Dynamo 20-11-2015 05:43 PM

he will be lucky if he manages a decent wank this week

Pete. 20-11-2015 05:54 PM

Tragic

Lostie! 20-11-2015 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 8301940)
I feel bad for him tbh, he's been managed so badly compared to fleur

I agree with this.

Headie 20-11-2015 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 8301940)
I feel bad for him tbh, he's been managed so badly compared to fleur

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 8301949)
I agree with this.

Fleur is more marketable and overall is more charismatic and more likely to reach out to a mass audience than Ben is, I do feel sorry for him a bit but at the end of the day I think it's the right decision for Syco to focus more on Fleur than Ben.

Headie 20-11-2015 06:03 PM

Album: Ben Haenow

iTunes:
#3 Mauritius
#9 Botswana
#11 South Africa
#26 Papua New Guinea
#57 United Kingdom
#61 Namibia
#65 Barbados
#83 Qatar
#198 Cyprus

Tom4784 20-11-2015 06:04 PM

At this point it makes me wonder why any men would want to actually win the X Factor, none of the male winners go on to be successful.

Drew. 20-11-2015 06:55 PM

At least hes popular in Mauritius, he'll be happy with that

Marsh. 20-11-2015 06:57 PM

I bet he'd kill for a career on the scale of Kav

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...4/9ROaEVZ0.jpg

Headie 20-11-2015 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8301957)
At this point it makes me wonder why any men would want to actually win the X Factor, none of the male winners go on to be successful.

I agree, only the female winners (Alexandra, Leona, Little Mix) have been really successful tbh (ignoring Sam Bailey), whereas the male winners literally only get the Xmas #1 and then are forgot about after that.

LukeB 20-11-2015 07:08 PM

Shayne Ward had a successful career but like Alexandra Burke they flopped after their 1st album

Headie 20-11-2015 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 8302111)
Shayne Ward had a successful career but like Alexandra Burke they flopped after their 1st album

I can only remember No U Hang Up tbh

rionablue 20-11-2015 07:15 PM

He hasn't a snowballs chance in Hell of making it even into the top 40

LukeB 20-11-2015 07:15 PM

But it doesn't beat the fact his first album went platinum but then his career went down hill just like Alexandra's and Leona's

Will. 20-11-2015 07:16 PM

I love hyperbole.

King Gizzard 20-11-2015 07:32 PM

He's better going it alone with his band again now he's got a tiny bit of fame

Headie 20-11-2015 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 8302126)
But it doesn't beat the fact his first album went platinum but then his career went down hill just like Alexandra's and Leona's

Leona and Alexandra's successful music careers lasted much longer than Shayne's tbh

EspeonBB 20-11-2015 11:06 PM

At least Mauritius and Botswana are here for him :clap1:

MB. 20-11-2015 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8301954)
Album: Ben Haenow

iTunes:
#3 Mauritius
#9 Botswana
#11 South Africa
#26 Papua New Guinea
#57 United Kingdom
#61 Namibia
#65 Barbados
#83 Qatar
#198 Cyprus

But the big question is what it's doing in Burkina Faso

Ross. 20-11-2015 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 8302126)
But it doesn't beat the fact his first album went platinum but then his career went down hill just like Alexandra's and Leona's

Excuse me Leona's career never went downhill after her first album

Denver 20-11-2015 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 8303013)
But the big question is what it's doing in Burkina Faso

Better then Fluer :hehe:

LukeB 20-11-2015 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross. (Post 8303091)
Excuse me Leona's career never went downhill after her first album

I meant their careers went down hill in general :laugh:

Leona deserves to be successful.

Shayne's 2nd album did well i guess, #2

Mystic Mock 20-11-2015 11:49 PM

Tbf to Simon he was basing it off the midweek sales when Ben was at number 5 in the Albums Chart.

Considering he had no promotion from Simon his actually not done too bad, especially for a male Over.

It's just sad that Simon favours Fleur on such an Olly level that it builds resentment towards them as would they have finished 2nd in their respective series without Simon's pimping? And would they have had more success in the charts than the winner without Simon's pimping?

Well done to Fleur, it's just a shame that Simon cheapens her achievements by not actually making it a competition when it's to do with her.

Mystic Mock 20-11-2015 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8301952)
Fleur is more marketable and overall is more charismatic and more likely to reach out to a mass audience than Ben is, I do feel sorry for him a bit but at the end of the day I think it's the right decision for Syco to focus more on Fleur than Ben.

Every singer has more charisma than Ben Haenow, but Fleur doesn't really have much either hence why she uses dance routines to cover up her poor performing skills and vocals, ironically like a Robbie Williams/Olly Murs figure in female form.

Headie 21-11-2015 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8303194)
Every singer has more charisma than Ben Haenow, but Fleur doesn't really have much either hence why she uses dance routines to cover up her poor performing skills and vocals, ironically like a Robbie Williams/Olly Murs figure in female form.

https://38.media.tumblr.com/c9acb8a5...af2wo1_250.gif

MB. 21-11-2015 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8303099)
Better then Fluer :hehe:

Yes but what about Fleur

Mystic Mock 21-11-2015 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 8303264)
Yes but what about Fleur

She's just going with the.

Denver 21-11-2015 04:43 PM

Fluer failed to chart in Burkino Faso :hmph:

Oliver_W 21-11-2015 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8301954)
Album: Ben Haenow

iTunes:
#3 Mauritius
#9 Botswana
#11 South Africa
#26 Papua New Guinea
#57 United Kingdom
#61 Namibia
#65 Barbados
#83 Qatar
#198 Cyprus

I didn't realise they even had music in Qatar :O

MB. 21-11-2015 05:29 PM

They clearly don't if he's that high

Pete. 21-11-2015 05:30 PM

Clocked!

Pete. 21-11-2015 05:31 PM

Qatar still has Womanizer at #9 :clap1:

MB. 21-11-2015 05:32 PM

And Alanis Morissette's in the top 10

Excuse me, I'm moving to Qatar

James 21-11-2015 09:31 PM

One of the reasons for X Factor's ratings decline has got to be that viewers see the competition doesn't count for much anymore. They just sign up whoever they think will do best commercially.

lewis111 21-11-2015 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8303163)
Tbf to Simon he was basing it off the midweek sales when Ben was at number 5 in the Albums Chart.

Considering he had no promotion from Simon his actually not done too bad, especially for a male Over.

It's just sad that Simon favours Fleur on such an Olly level that it builds resentment towards them as would they have finished 2nd in their respective series without Simon's pimping? And would they have had more success in the charts than the winner without Simon's pimping?

Well done to Fleur, it's just a shame that Simon cheapens her achievements by not actually making it a competition when it's to do with her.

Midweek charts on a Monday, he said that on Sunday js

Headie 28-11-2015 11:13 AM

Welp it's dropped from #10 last week to #29 this week.

(His sales are less than a third of what Sam Bailey's album of covers managed last year)

X Factor winner debut album first week sales


Leona Lewis (1)-375,872
Shayne Ward (1)-201,266
Alexandra Burke (1)-132,065
Sam Bailey (1)-72,644
Matt Cardle(2)-70,896
James Arthur(2)-63,995
Little Mix (3)-53,314
Steve Brookstein (1)-50,989
Joe McElderry (3)-39,405
Leon Jackson-(4)-37,197
Ben Haenow(10)-18,130

Amy Jade 28-11-2015 11:19 AM

Untouchable Leona :love:


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