Russian Military Jet shot down in Turkish Airspace
 

https://www.rt.com/news/323215-warpl...-syria-turkey/


Conflicting reports about the whereabouts of the pilots.

Diplomatic sh*tstorm ahead then, hopefully the pilots survive

Yes.I have warned of this in several threads.Last time a Russian jet entered Turkish airspace not too long ago Turkey said that they will shoot it down next time.Russia are NOT just in this to take out ISIS.
Turkey are a NATO member.If Russia decides to retaliate then oooh ****!

I'd be more concerned about the Turks than the Russians. Both have belligerent and nationalist leaders but Turkey have shown themselves much less interested in attacking ISIS and they know they can force Nato's hand against Russia.

Turkey is an ISIS supporter, so if they did shoot a Russian plane down, it wouldn't be a surprise. Turkey has always fallen in to that difficult grey area. Its great to have a strategically placed country within Nato, but their loyalties will always be questionable. Thank **** Blair's plan to get Turkey in the EU failed.

But it's not Turkey who are invading Russian airspace.The Russians keep doing it and keep getting warned.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34907983

The Russians are claiming that the jet was sort down from the ground, while the Turks say it was given 10 warnings in 5 minutes and they shot it down

And the Russians are Assad dictatorship supporters. Both are equally as bad. Assad is every bit as evil as ISIS.

how do you think Russia would react if Turkey was invading Russian airspace?

Watch the vid above in the BBC News report.It shows the two Turkish F-16's in the air above.Russians are lying again.

They will never agree.


Next time stay away from touchy Turkey border side

Hey Mods! Can you remove please! Already a thread! xx
 

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Yes Down it went fast

Russians are not too good on Geography, they are always invading the space of others.
Russian sub in the Scottish waters last week, no doubt they had just got lost.
They do push their luck somewhat.

This ^ The barrel bombs that have been rolled out by Assad have caused a lot more devastation that ISIS has. We all fear ISIS because of their hate for the west but the Assad regime is a far more formidable force on its own land.

I will continue to believe the Turks on this until we know otherwise. Putin lied about 'not' invading air space in Croatia so he's not to be trusted.

Before the war Syria was a stable, secular and relatively sophisticated country with solid standards of living and education. Yes Assad was a brutal dictator: many world leaders are. But the genocide, slavery, mass rape, beheadings and all the other atrocities that ISIS have committed put them in a different league to the Assad government. And he was never a threat to our own national security: ISIS are.

Thankfully the Russians have been quite restrained about this far and are not leaping to escalate it. Lets hope that continues even though both pilots are now reported to be dead.

Daily Politics is saying that there is a possibility that the pilot who ejected could possibly have been captured by the Syrian Turkmen.They are Syrian Turks who were part of the Ottoman Empire and live on the border between Syria and Turkey.They don't like the Russians.Hopefully they don't kill him and piss off Russia as this could escalate tensions further.

one is dead, i saw the video

Seems to be conflicting reports. Daily Politics did say one might have been captured but then referenced Al Jazeera saying both were dead. BBC News at 1 after that said different though, that the surviving pilot was on the run.

Also there are Syrian jets up.If they get in confrontation with a US/French jet then that is a risk as Russia are on the side of Assad.

Both Pilots are Dead

We will never know the truth of the situation. The Russians may have wanted Turkey to shoot one of their planes down. Turkey may have been trigger happy.

It will be slightly better and less complicated if both pilots died on the way down or on impact than if either one was killed when they landed.

Does NATO even carry that much significance any more? I hardly expect a Russian retaliation would prompt everyone involved to get up in arms (literally).

A woman outside the Turkish embassy in Moscow

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experie...f2b7081f88.jpg

No

Russia is better
but needs to get routes sorted

Russian women,There are'nt many ugly ones.They're all fit.

If Russia attacked a NATO member?Yes it would be very serious.

Absolutely, Nato is all about collective protection, its just that none of them have been threatened/attacked recently ... and that is true because they are members of Nato.

Both Pilots were Shot dead by Turkey Guns.

Putin has now told Russians to not go to Turkey


New update
Ref: Radio5

Another brilliant assessment of the situation MTVN.

That Turkish leader better watch his back

http://news.sky.com/story/1593241/pu...ab-in-the-back

Stabbing Putin in the back
is crazy

They were shot by Turks

if they were shot, it would be by IS supporting Turks. It's about time Turkey took up a definitive position and stopped playing both sides as it suits it.

This probably warrants another thread, i read on BBC News yesterday that a Russian sub was seen off the coast of Scotland, apparently there are fears they want to cut cables???

Yes Turkey
Kills the Kurds.

Kurds are now armed by America
to help them take out Isis,


So Turkey is in a Hell of a Mess
Avoid it on Holidays for now

No its OK on this thread
they are around the UK alot,
its gone on for years.

Putin going to war with the Turks, this is Novos wet dream

Good article:

Savage animals, why couldn't they do it the right way and escort the plane out if it thought it was violating Airspace? and there are reports of a member of the rescue team killed as well looking for the Pilots, a clear sign of the hatred from The Turks towards Russia probably more to do with its Eastern Orthodox religion and ties with Greece and all Obama can say is " Turkey had a right to defend its borders " big time Charlatan