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Smithy 29-12-2015 03:52 PM

Why do UK pop girls always become UK flop girls
 
Leona
Alexandra
Pixie Lott
Duffy
Eliza Doolittle
Cher Lloyd
Lily Allen (to an extent with her new album)
Ellie Goulding (as above after LMLYD you'd expect her album to smash)

there's probably more but i just can't think of any


The first 6 for sure had massive first era's but they were quickly dropped by brits in their following era's, why? :think:

MB. 29-12-2015 03:53 PM

Duffy had a second era?

Pete. 29-12-2015 03:53 PM

This happens to every pop artist in the end except for the obvious exceptions (Madge etc)

EspeonBB 29-12-2015 03:54 PM

The UK are so disloyal to their pop girls compared to the U.S. :worry:

Adele broke the curse though!

Pete. 29-12-2015 03:54 PM

But yeah the UK pop girls flop the hardest :(

Pete. 29-12-2015 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dasherleyne (Post 8380244)
The UK are so disloyal to their pop girls compared to the U.S. :worry:

So true!

Smithy 29-12-2015 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaryMary'sBoyChild (Post 8380240)
Duffy had a second era?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/514W3pUIOIL.jpg

King Gizzard 29-12-2015 03:56 PM

I am still a big Kate Nash fan

Smithy 29-12-2015 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dasherleyne (Post 8380244)
The UK are so disloyal to their pop girls compared to the U.S. :worry:

Adele broke the curse though!

It's usually the girls that explode onto the scene that flop hardest, adele, paloma, little mix (ellie too i guess) all debuted kind averagely but then just grew from there

Shaun 29-12-2015 03:58 PM

the BRITS/BBC tend to pump more and more energy into promoting new music and artists and then just toss them to the side :shrug: unless you're under 25 and only one album into your career (or you're part of a massive label with milions to buy them out), Radio 1 aren't gonna be interested.

MB. 29-12-2015 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JingleBitch (Post 8380254)

Talk about an ironic title

EspeonBB 29-12-2015 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JingleBitch (Post 8380261)
It's usually the girls that explode onto the scene that flop hardest, adele, paloma, little mix (ellie too i guess) all debuted kind averagely but then just grew from there

Maybe it's because the girls in the OP have big debut eras and can't live up to the hype in the second era. Plus they lose the whole 'brand new artist' shtick too

MB. 29-12-2015 04:04 PM

I mourn Little Boots' career to this day

Ashley. 29-12-2015 04:05 PM

Lily Allen never flopped. :nono:

Smithy 29-12-2015 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashley in Wonderland (Post 8380291)
Lily Allen never flopped. :nono:

Sheezus undeniably underperformed compared to INYIM, plus it was (arguably) a much weaker album

Samm 29-12-2015 04:06 PM

Lily isn't a flop and is way above all of em

http://i.imgur.com/1rz1YPF.gif

(not including Ellie) (I don't stan Ellie but why is she on here?)

LukeB 29-12-2015 04:06 PM

Ellie didn't flop

EspeonBB 29-12-2015 04:07 PM

Delirium is kinda flopping despite LMLYD and On My Mind being smashes :worry:

Samm 29-12-2015 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JingleBitch (Post 8380294)
Sheezus undeniably underperformed compared to INYIM, plus it was (arguably) a much weaker album

It underperformed yes, but still got number one and she was widely talked about and Air Balllom and Hard Out Here were mediocre hits, so clearly isn't a "flop"!

http://i.imgur.com/1rz1YPF.gif

Smithy 29-12-2015 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrostyChique (Post 8380296)
Lily isn't a flop and is way above all of em

http://i.imgur.com/1rz1YPF.gif

(not including Ellie) (I don't stan Ellie but why is she on here?)

She got bigger with every album/rerelease, plus she was featured on some of the biggest songs of the past couple of years with Outside & I Need Your Love and with the huge success of LMLYD you'd have just expected the demand for her newest album to be a lot higher than what it was, it only debuted at 3

LukeB 29-12-2015 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dasherleyne (Post 8380299)
Delirium is kinda flopping despite LMLYD and On My Mind being smashes :worry:

the album is doing well, not as well as her others but isn't doing badly, Gold Certification isn't bad.

Pete. 29-12-2015 04:09 PM

Justice for Air Balloon

King Gizzard 29-12-2015 04:09 PM

Air Balloon is her best song

Smithy 29-12-2015 04:10 PM

I didn't say they both flopped, i just said to an extent, meaning they're both underperforming compared to their previous success'

Samm 29-12-2015 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Nicolas Cage (Post 8380311)
Air Balloon is her best song

stan!

LukeB 29-12-2015 04:10 PM

Our Time is my favourite from Lily's recent album

Samm 29-12-2015 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JingleBitch (Post 8380312)
I didn't say they both flopped, i just said to an extent, meaning they're both underperforming compared to their previous success'

underperforming, but maybe flop means different to you, to be it means there album major failed and hardly anybody knew they had another era like Duffy and Eliza

Smithy 29-12-2015 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrostyChique (Post 8380303)
It underperformed yes, but still got number one and she was widely talked about and Air Balllom and Hard Out Here were mediocre hits, so clearly isn't a "flop"!

http://i.imgur.com/1rz1YPF.gif

It went #1 but it was her lowest first week sales to date :shrug:

Z 29-12-2015 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameltoe and Wine (Post 8380268)
the BRITS/BBC tend to pump more and more energy into promoting new music and artists and then just toss them to the side :shrug: unless you're under 25 and only one album into your career (or you're part of a massive label with milions to buy them out), Radio 1 aren't gonna be interested.

Nailed it. We don't support longevity.

Jake. 29-12-2015 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JingleBitch (Post 8380318)
It went #1 but it was her lowest first week sales to date :shrug:

yeah true, but I think that's more to do with sales in general at the moment. Exceptions aside, it sold pretty much the same/a bit more as other albums which went to #1

MB. 29-12-2015 04:13 PM

I wonder who'll be next to go out of Foxes and Jess Glynne

LukeB 29-12-2015 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaryMary'sBoyChild (Post 8380325)
I wonder who'll be next to go out of Foxes and Jess Glynne

both?

Jake. 29-12-2015 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SantaPooh (Post 8380314)
Our Time is my favourite from Lily's recent album

the only acceptable answer, really

Jake. 29-12-2015 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaryMary'sBoyChild (Post 8380325)
I wonder who'll be next to go out of Foxes and Jess Glynne

Foxes is already there really isn't she?

Jamie89 29-12-2015 04:16 PM

It's just the music industry isn't it. Fickle. And women especially have a harder time because there is more of an emphasis on their appearance than men, so getting older, and maturer with age, not wanting to be a sex object etc. will all be factors. And the UK industry doesn't have the wealth of the US market to continually push established artists so they're pretty much left to their own devices after they've had their peak.

Smithy 29-12-2015 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noel Raymonds (Post 8380324)
yeah true, but I think that's more to do with sales in general at the moment. Exceptions aside, it sold pretty much the same/a bit more as other albums which went to #1

looking at the sales, she was lucky she released when she did, the week before she'd have been blocked and the week after https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_i...ber-one_albums
Quote:

Originally Posted by MaryMary'sBoyChild (Post 8380325)
I wonder who'll be next to go out of Foxes and Jess Glynne

Jess, foxes isn't big enough, she'll just grow

MB. 29-12-2015 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noel Raymonds (Post 8380328)
Foxes is already there really isn't she?

Whilst she's still in her Body Talk era I refuse to accept her floppage

reece(: 29-12-2015 04:58 PM

Cheryl isn't flopping

Denver 29-12-2015 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 8380418)
Cheryl isn't flopping

Her last few songs say otherwise also didnt her album get like a peak of 18?

reece(: 29-12-2015 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donder Kebab (Post 8380421)
Her last few songs say otherwise also didnt her album get like a peak of 18?

Crazy Stupid Love and I Don't Care were both #1 :think:


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