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erinp5 08-01-2016 05:02 PM

Winston causes outrage with his views on gay adoption .
 
There's outrage in the Celebrity Big Brother 2016 house tonight as Winston McKenzie airs his views on gay adoption.


In a new task the housemates are split into two teams to discover how well they know each other. One housemate is appointed to be the captain of each team and read out a series of facts. Their team must decide to which fact relates to which housemate on the other team. The team to get the most correct answers about their opponents wins.

During the task it’s revealed that Gemma has a designer vagina, Angie was nearly late to her own wedding after a threesome, Darren spent £2000 a week on cocaine and Danniella has had six boob jobs.

hen Winston is correctly identified as having described adoption by gay couples as child abuse, debate sparks. Winston explains “How can I? I’m a Christian. How can I go against my beliefs? No I’m not homophobic, no I don’t hate gays, people live their lives as according to how they want to live.” Jeremy urges “let’s move forward.”

Team B is declared the winner of the task and can decide which three housemates will get their confiscated suitcases back. After a team vote, they decide to give cases to Darren, Danniella and Christopher. Gemma tries to get clarification from Winston about the child abuse comment.

Discussing Winston’s earlier comments about gay adoption, Angie tells David “I didn’t do 45 years fighting for gay rights for ******ing nothing. I’m not tolerating that c*ap. If he comes within 10 feet of me it’s over. My ******ing eyes nearly popped out of my head. I knew it was him, it’s not like anyone else would have said such a stupid thing. And if he didn’t say it, he didn’t prove to me that he didn’t.

David says “I love you and I love everything you stand for.”

A raging Angie then continues “Well thank you but at the moment I only stand for being an absolute pratt for having trusted him, for having said nice things about him. What was he all the time? A little mincing, ******ing, stereotypical straight a***hole hiding behind that it’s a Christian belief. Suck my big one. And when you’re done with that do it again, on your ******ing knees. Piece of c**p.

Celebrity Big Brother airs tonight from 9PM on Channel 5 with the first live eviction of the series.



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erinp5 08-01-2016 05:02 PM

Go Angie !!!!

chuff me dizzy 08-01-2016 05:04 PM

Winston .....stitched up like a kipper

Gusto Brunt 08-01-2016 05:07 PM

Winston is our Donald Trump. :D

Vicky. 08-01-2016 05:08 PM

BB are seriously setting him up here mind... :umm2:

I know he said these things and holds these views, but it really does seem they put him in only to give him grief for it.

Wizard. 08-01-2016 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 8402982)
Winston is our Donald Trump. :D

#BanCBBWinstonFromTheUK

zakman440 08-01-2016 05:10 PM

Already made a thread :)

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=294781

Beso 08-01-2016 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8402990)
BB are seriously setting him up here mind... :umm2:

I know he said these things and holds these views, but it really does seem they put him in only to give him grief for it.


He should have been a muslim, it would never have been mentioned.

Josy 08-01-2016 06:49 PM

Quote:

Angie was nearly late to her own wedding after a threesome
Such a nice lady

Cherie 08-01-2016 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8402973)
Winston .....stitched up like a kipper

Yep

Jamie89 08-01-2016 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 8403297)
He should have been a muslim, it would never have been mentioned.

Eh? :huh:

GiRTh 08-01-2016 07:37 PM

No one is forcing him to have these views so I don't see how he's being stitched up.

Niamh. 08-01-2016 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 8403655)
No one is forcing him to have these views so I don't see how he's being stitched up.


Exactly

Northern Monkey 08-01-2016 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 8403297)
He should have been a muslim, it would never have been mentioned.

So true!

Northern Monkey 08-01-2016 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8402973)
Winston .....stitched up like a kipper

Yes he is this years controversy scape goat.

T* 08-01-2016 08:11 PM

He deserves everything that comes to him
idc if bb has set him up
He's despicable

T* 08-01-2016 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 8403655)
No one is forcing him to have these views so I don't see how he's being stitched up.


:clap1:

Chuckyegg 08-01-2016 09:13 PM

He deserves to be set up, ridiculed and dismissed by the PC brigade. It's so easy to do it to desperately un-self aware prats like that.
The PC brigade are a nice bunch actually, I live near their headquarters.

Johnnyuk123 08-01-2016 09:16 PM

The key word here is...Opinion. CBB have taken that opinion many months in advance to use to kick off the first week of the show to cause drama and get ratings sadly and Winston is their first target to fall on the CBB sword.

Northern Monkey 08-01-2016 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8404483)
The key word here is...Opinion. CBB have taken that opinion many months in advance to use to kick off the first week of the show to cause drama and get ratings sadly and Winston is their first target to fall on the CBB sword.

Yes,They have planned this well in advance to get the tongues wagging of the gullible GBP who will lap it up.Forced drama.He has been blatently used for ratings.

rubymoo 08-01-2016 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8402973)
Winston .....stitched up like a kipper

Completely agree, he's there for the controversy.

Patricia4 08-01-2016 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8402973)
Winston .....stitched up like a kipper

Hello Chuff :wavey:

I agree with you.

Niamh. 08-01-2016 09:23 PM

Those are his views, he's entitled to his opinion, sure, but people respond to that with theirs :shrug: is he embarrassed by his opinion? He should be

Chuckyegg 08-01-2016 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8404483)
The key word here is...Opinion. CBB have taken that opinion many months in advance to use to kick off the first week of the show to cause drama and get ratings sadly and Winston is their first target to fall on the CBB sword.

....I know.....it's great

arista 09-01-2016 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8402973)
Winston .....stitched up like a kipper



Yes he is a Church Bloke

What the Feck did they think he would say

lostalex 09-01-2016 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8402990)
BB are seriously setting him up here mind... :umm2:

I know he said these things and holds these views, but it really does seem they put him in only to give him grief for it.

He should protest by refusing to cash his check from BB then.

kirklancaster 09-01-2016 05:27 AM

Winston is not well educated, nor all that intelligent, and is not especially eloquent.

He is a confused idiot.

In the first place, he attributes his 'Christianity' as the reason for his opposition to Gays and the rights for Gay people to adopt children, yet NOWHERE in the New Testament - the book of the Bible specific to Christians - does it even MENTION homosexuality let alone condemn it, so there is therefore NO mention of the 'rights and wrongs' of children being raised by adoptive Gay parents either.

And this is where these uneducated 'Christians' are not only deluded, but dangerously so.

I have said this before, but it is highly relevant, so I will say it again:

If you were to enter your unlit garage and see a coiled rope on the floor picked out in the half-shadows, and you flee screaming; "snake" - that is an illusion, a misinterpretation, a misperception of something tangible, which is both understandable and harmless.

If you were to enter your unlit garage and see a coiled snake on the floor where there is no coiled rope only bare floor, then that is hallucination and you are either extremely stupid or have a serious psychological problem.

This is the major difference between extremist Islamics and extremist Christians - in the Qran, there ARE verses of extreme violence which ARE open to interpretation, so extreme Islamic Terrorists CAN at least try to justify their actions (however falsely) by citing 'Allah's' word. In the New Testament however, there are NO verses of violence at all, so Extreme Christian Terrorists have no such excuses.

It is the same with Winston and his utterly crass homophobic spewings - He has NO justification for citing his Christianity as a reason for them.

There IS however, a passage in the Old Testament which is highly relevant here, and that is Genesis 22.2 when God said to Abraham:

"And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of..."

God was merely 'testing' Abraham and a ram caught in a thicket is later substituted as a sacrifice, and here the CBB producers have taken the idiot Winston and cynically used him as a 'Ram' to be sacrificed on their altar to their God of Commercialism.

They KNEW of his limited intellect and his penchant for making controversial and highly offensive statements due to 'operating his mouth without engaging his brain', and they cynically signed him up for the show specifically because he guaranteed them the controversy which the show thrives on.

They also KNEW that he was not the most eloquent of speakers and would be therefore ill-equipped to deal with the inevitable barrage of vehement reaction.

Winston is a virtual Cretin, but if his disgusting views had issued from a 100% genuinely mentally and physically deformed Cretin, would we still be as outraged or vitriolic in our condemnation of him?

You do NOT throw a fox into a hen house then whip it to death in angry reaction because it has eaten the hens, and I think a lot of the outrage should be redirected to the shows producers - who are REALLY to blame.

Beso 09-01-2016 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8406150)
Winston is not well educated, nor all that intelligent, and is not especially eloquent.

He is a confused idiot.

In the first place, he attributes his 'Christianity' as the reason for his opposition to Gays and the rights for Gay people to adopt children, yet NOWHERE in the New Testament - the book of the Bible specific to Christians - does it even MENTION homosexuality let alone condemn it, so there is therefore NO mention of the 'rights and wrongs' of children being raised by adoptive Gay parents either.

And this is where these uneducated 'Christians' are not only deluded, but dangerously so.

I have said this before, but it is highly relevant, so I will say it again:

If you were to enter your unlit garage and see a coiled rope on the floor picked out in the half-shadows, and you flee screaming; "snake" - that is an illusion, a misinterpretation, a misperception of something tangible, which is both understandable and harmless.

If you were to enter your unlit garage and see a coiled snake on the floor where there is no coiled rope only bare floor, then that is hallucination and you are either extremely stupid or have a serious psychological problem.

This is the major difference between extremist Islamics and extremist Christians - in the Qran, there ARE verses of extreme violence which ARE open to interpretation, so extreme Islamic Terrorists CAN at least try to justify their actions (however falsely) by citing 'Allah's' word. In the New Testament however, there are NO verses of violence at all, so Extreme Christian Terrorists have no such excuses.

It is the same with Winston and his utterly crass homophobic spewings - He has NO justification for citing his Christianity as a reason for them.

There IS however, a passage in the Old Testament which is highly relevant here, and that is Genesis 22.2 when God said to Abraham:

"And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of..."

God was merely 'testing' Abraham and a ram caught in a thicket is later substituted as a sacrifice, and here the CBB producers have taken the idiot Winston and cynically used him as a 'Ram' to be sacrificed on their altar to their God of Commercialism.

They KNEW of his limited intellect and his penchant for making controversial and highly offensive statements due to 'operating his mouth without engaging his brain', and they cynically signed him up for the show specifically because he guaranteed them the controversy which the show thrives on.

They also KNEW that he was not the most eloquent of speakers and would be therefore ill-equipped to deal with the inevitable barrage of vehement reaction.

Winston is a virtual Cretin, but if his disgusting views had issued from a 100% genuinely mentally and physically deformed Cretin, would we still be as outraged or vitriolic in our condemnation of him?

You do NOT throw a fox into a hen house then whip it to death in angry reaction because it has eaten the hens, and I think a lot of the outrage should be redirected to the shows producers - who are REALLY to blame.

really bb itself should be the ones getting all the hate for pushing and airing such homophobic views onto us.

Cherie 09-01-2016 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 8406260)
really bb itself should be the ones getting all the hate for pushing and airing such homophobic views onto us.

Yep


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