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Beso 08-01-2016 08:58 PM

the child doesn't have a choice.
 
discuss.

GiRTh 08-01-2016 08:59 PM

On what?

Headie 08-01-2016 08:59 PM

They don't have a choice in heterosexual adoptions either so point invalid really :shrug:

Beso 08-01-2016 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8404327)
They don't have a choice in heterosexual adoptions either so point invalid really :shrug:

maybe thats his view on adoption in general.

Pete. 08-01-2016 09:01 PM

I'm sure Kristina will be a great mum

Oliver_W 08-01-2016 09:02 PM

They have even less choice about being born to idiots like that.

As far as I know, adopted children can be rehomed if the placement doesn't work out, so they have MORE choice than those with biological parents!

Northern Monkey 08-01-2016 09:02 PM

He probably thinks that life for the child could be hell due to bullying etc.

susie q 08-01-2016 09:03 PM

It was a really daft thing to say, all round.

reece(: 08-01-2016 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8404364)
He probably thinks that life for the child could be hell due to bullying etc.

Yeah, maybe not

Niamh. 08-01-2016 09:04 PM

No child has a choice on who it's parents are biological or adopted

Oliver_W 08-01-2016 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8404364)
He probably thinks that life for the child could be hell due to bullying etc.

I know the school I work at isn't EVERY school, but I know of two kids with gay parents, and they don't get bullied for it.

Lostie! 08-01-2016 09:04 PM

I agree with Winston. I'm sure all the homophobic babies out there are glad that their case is being fought for.

Beso 08-01-2016 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8404364)
He probably thinks that life for the child could be hell due to bullying etc.

yeah that's how i took it.:shrug:

Shaun 08-01-2016 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 8404350)
maybe thats his view on adoption in general.

Doubt it.

Niamh. 08-01-2016 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 8404391)
I agree with Winston. I'm sure all the homophobic babies out there are glad that their case is being fought for.


:laugh:

Jamie89 08-01-2016 09:06 PM

Desperately clutching at straws to try and justify his homophobia. Idiotic statement so not much to discuss really

jet 08-01-2016 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8404386)
No child has a choice on who it's parents are biological or adopted

Came in here to say just that. :thumbs:

Jamie89 08-01-2016 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 8404391)
I agree with Winston. I'm sure all the homophobic babies out there are glad that their case is being fought for.

:joker:

#justice4homophobicbabies

Will. 08-01-2016 09:08 PM

Technically I did though, I got rid of the horrid adoptive parents and kept the nice ones ha :)

I chose the rich ones, got to think of my future.

One couple house smelt when I went round, so I got rid.


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Niamh. 08-01-2016 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 8404417)
Came in here to say just that. :thumbs:


:love:

Jarrod 08-01-2016 09:11 PM

What is there to discuss? There's no justification for saying that the child doesn't have a choice. No child has a choice in any parent decision - biological or not. Winston is a vile homophobic UKIP candidate who was gripping at straws to try and explain his comments.

Beso 08-01-2016 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by susie q (Post 8404374)
It was a really daft thing to say, all round.

true.

Guuki 08-01-2016 09:16 PM

That was his opinion like any other opinion. Come on. He is Christian, gay couples are against his religion and he's not supporting adoptions by homosexual couples. Opinion and views like any others. Give him a break.

sampvt 08-01-2016 09:22 PM

If you feel that a child should have the love of a mother and the guidance of a father in the traditional family way, then Winston is right.

If however you feel the kid does not need these traditional values, then he is wrong.

2 different views but any kid brought up in a male dominated environment will have to run the gauntlet of kids at school who are not as forgiving as our PC society and might find they have gender issues which they might follow just to please their adopted parents.

Personally I believe in the sanctity of the traditional marriage and family life, but that's the way I was brought up.

Shaun 08-01-2016 09:23 PM

Because mums can't offer guidance and fathers can't offer love I suppose.

Northern Monkey 08-01-2016 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 8404527)
If you feel that a child should have the love of a mother and the guidance of a father in the traditional family way, then Winston is right.

If however you feel the kid does not need these traditional values, then he is wrong.

2 different views but any kid brought up in a male dominated environment will have to run the gauntlet of kids at school who are not as forgiving as our PC society and might find they have gender issues which they might follow just to please their adopted parents.

Personally I believe in the sanctity of the traditional marriage and family life, but that's the way I was brought up.

I also believe that the ideal enviroment for a child is a mum and dad.A balanced upbringing and view of the world.

Niamh. 08-01-2016 09:32 PM

I believe a child needs love, stability and interest

Jamie89 08-01-2016 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guuki (Post 8404481)
That was his opinion like any other opinion. Come on. He is Christian, gay couples are against his religion and he's not supporting adoptions by homosexual couples. Opinion and views like any others. Give him a break.

:umm2: How do you explain that some Christians support gay couples adopting? People who use religion to justify their homophobia are cowards. He has his own mind to form his views so blaming the bible isn't an excuse. And saying it's 'child abuse' isn't simply 'not supporting' it. It's a hateful thing to say.

Northern Monkey 08-01-2016 09:38 PM

There are certain qualities that a mother brings to the table that a man just can't do as well and vice versa.Kids need both imo for a balanced upbringing.

Jamie89 08-01-2016 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8404683)
There are certain qualities that a mother brings to the table that a man just can't do as well and vice versa.Kids need both imo for a balanced upbringing.

Like what? And do you know any kids who have been brought up by same sex parents that have turned out unbalanced?

Niamh. 08-01-2016 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8404683)
There are certain qualities that a mother brings to the table that a man just can't do as well and vice versa.Kids need both imo for a balanced upbringing.


If I died in the morning I would be 100% confident that my husband could give my kids everything they need

Northern Monkey 08-01-2016 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8404883)
If I died in the morning I would be 100% confident that my husband could give my kids everything they need

I'm sure he could do an excellent job just as i'd hope i could but i know that they also need their mums love in the perfect enviroment.Women are just better at certain things imo.My kids run straight to their mum if they hurt themself for comfort but come to me for other things like if they're scared.Things like that.

Northern Monkey 08-01-2016 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 8404866)
Like what? And do you know any kids who have been brought up by same sex parents that have turned out unbalanced?

No but plenty with single mothers.Men and women both have things they're better at.

LukeB 08-01-2016 09:59 PM

what he said made no sense, the child don't get a choice with straight couples either.. so it's no different to a gay couple.. so he is an idiot

Tom4784 08-01-2016 10:01 PM

He's just a bigoted idiot that was desperately trying to hide it.

T* 08-01-2016 10:08 PM

The child doesn't have a ****ing choice in anything anyway

Vicky. 08-01-2016 10:09 PM

Children dont ever get a choice in who their parents are, it was a bizarre way of trying to justify his views :umm2:

Beso 08-01-2016 10:16 PM

i wonder what % of gay couples only adopt a child of the same sex? anyone got figures?

Vicky. 08-01-2016 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 8405225)
i wonder what % of gay couples only adopt a child of the same sex? anyone got figures?

Does that sort of thing get tracked?

And why do you wonder?

genuinely curious :laugh:

Beso 09-01-2016 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8405250)
Does that sort of thing get tracked?

And why do you wonder?

genuinely curious :laugh:

things like that interest me.:blush:


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