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arista 20-01-2016 10:16 AM

Muslim boy, 10, quizzed by police after mistakenly writing a T . word
 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...3278958851.jpg

The youngster made the error while at school in Accrington, Lancashire
Police then arrived at his home the following day to question the boy
Officers also examined the family laptop as part of their formal inquiries
Teachers now have a statutory duty to guard youngsters from terrorism
Do you know the boy's family?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3xmYw8P5m

No DM I do not know his parents


And Lad
learn to write better



"mistakenly writing that
he lived in a 'terrorist house' rather than
a 'terraced house'.
"

-C
for that
do better

hbk4894 20-01-2016 10:35 AM

10 year old spoke to by poilce after spelling terraced house terrorist house?
 
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-01-20/1...wed-by-police/

Niamh. 20-01-2016 10:54 AM

why did you put this in Chat and Games? :/ I'm not merging it with the other thread because the other one is in the correct section

James 20-01-2016 10:55 AM

I just merged it. :blush: (the two threads)

But it is in Serious Debates now.

Niamh. 20-01-2016 10:56 AM

:fist:

Marsh. 20-01-2016 11:01 AM

:joker:

arista 20-01-2016 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James (Post 8444043)
I just merged it. :blush: (the two threads)

But it is in Serious Debates now.


Yes I thought due the lad
being young,
chuck him in Chat and Games.

But you are right James
this is the place I should have posted it,
sorry.

arista 20-01-2016 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8444036)
why did you put this in Chat and Games? :/ I'm not merging it with the other thread because the other one is in the correct section


Sorry my bad view on youngers.


James Corrected me.

Ammi 20-01-2016 11:36 AM

"mistakenly writing that
he lived in a 'terrorist house' rather than
a 'terraced house'."





..yeah, school staff do have a duty of care and safeguarding and part of that now is radicalisation but an incorrect spelling mistake, that was reported as being the only thing ..?...there would have to be changes in a child's personality/moods/attention etc and so much more than that...it seems quite alarmist and silly to me and to put a child through police questioning for just that and only that as well..?..wow....

lostalex 20-01-2016 11:45 AM

so it's in serious debates now... what are we debating?

everyone agrees that the cops did a good job of investigating, right?

Niamh. 20-01-2016 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8444249)
so it's in serious debates now... what are we debating?

everyone agrees that the cops did a good job of investigating, right?

Serious Debates and News Alex

lostalex 20-01-2016 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8444261)
Serious Debates and News Alex

indeed.

I think we should make it Serious debates and News and Porn... just a suggestion

arista 20-01-2016 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8444212)
"mistakenly writing that
he lived in a 'terrorist house' rather than
a 'terraced house'."





..yeah, school staff do have
a duty of care and safeguarding
and part of that now
is radicalisation but an
incorrect spelling mistake,
that was reported as being
the only thing ..?...there would
have to be changes in a
child's personality/moods/attention etc
and so much more than that...it seems
quite alarmist and silly to me
and to put a child through police questioning
for just that and only that as well..?..wow...
.


Ammi it made a nice change for the Lad
to see a Big Policeman visit.

It was a Error
maybe the Head Teacher
needs to get all facts before a Panic




Keep the lad off the Papers
after this
no need to make this go on FoxNewsHD
is there , Ammi.

Cherie 20-01-2016 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8444212)
"mistakenly writing that
he lived in a 'terrorist house' rather than
a 'terraced house'."





..yeah, school staff do have a duty of care and safeguarding and part of that now is radicalisation but an incorrect spelling mistake, that was reported as being the only thing ..?...there would have to be changes in a child's personality/moods/attention etc and so much more than that...it seems quite alarmist and silly to me and to put a child through police questioning for just that and only that as well..?..wow....


Did you have to sit through that awfully made "prevent video" Ammi

Ammi 20-01-2016 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8444322)
Ammi it made a nice change for the Lad
to see a Big Policeman visit.

It was a Error
maybe the Head Teacher
needs to get all facts before a Panic




Keep the lad off the Papers
after this
no need to make this go on FoxNewsHD
is there , Ammi.

..it's not an error that should ever have been mad by a head-teacher though..I'm not Muslim so if one of my children were that age now, 10yrs old and had made that spelling error an there had been nothing else in their behaviour to cause concern, would they have been questioned by the police../it's not only Muslims that are radicalised as we know...this is not a situation that is 'best to be safe than sorry', there really has to be a cause for concern because of multiple reasons, not something like spelling mistakes...and maybe it's right that his parents/family now are highlighting these alarmist type incidents if they're happening...and yes indeed, get facts and don't panic over something so silly and something that children do every day...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8444355)
Did you have to sit through that awfully made "prevent video" Ammi

...hahhhh, yeah quite a while ago with our safeguarding Cherie ..but we have more in depth stuff now/training...if you haven't done it already or are booked to, you probably will be soon...

arista 20-01-2016 01:09 PM

"yeah quite a while ago with our safeguarding Cherie ..but we have more in depth stuff now/training...if you haven't done it already or are booked to, you probably will be soon.."


Its all Positive in these
Troubled Times

Keep up the good work you 2 Pro Workers

Ammi 20-01-2016 01:17 PM

..yeah, Cherie and I are onto the spelling errors, no worries Arista...when they write..my birthday is in two days, we've clocked that is bit straight away....

joeysteele 20-01-2016 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8444212)
"mistakenly writing that
he lived in a 'terrorist house' rather than
a 'terraced house'."





..yeah, school staff do have a duty of care and safeguarding and part of that now is radicalisation but an incorrect spelling mistake, that was reported as being the only thing ..?...there would have to be changes in a child's personality/moods/attention etc and so much more than that...it seems quite alarmist and silly to me and to put a child through police questioning for just that and only that as well..?..wow....

This for me, it seems rather extreme.

bots 20-01-2016 01:56 PM

While it may seem extreme, once written, the teacher has a dilemma ... what if the kid does live in a terrorist house, i do nothing and there is an event. In those circumstances, I can see the wish for responsibility to be offloaded to the police.

Cherie 20-01-2016 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8444766)
While it may seem extreme, once written, the teacher has a dilemma ... what if the kid does live in a terrorist house, i do nothing and there is an event. In those circumstances, I can see the wish for responsibility to be offloaded to the police.

I agree it's a no win situation for the staff involved, it may seem over the top but it is a "hot subject" in schools and Colleges at the moment so would be hard to ignore

Vicky. 20-01-2016 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8444766)
While it may seem extreme, once written, the teacher has a dilemma ... what if the kid does live in a terrorist house, i do nothing and there is an event. In those circumstances, I can see the wish for responsibility to be offloaded to the police.

Yeah totally. If it is ignored and then there is issues...the teacher would be in the wrong, everyone would be in the wrong. But something does get investigated, and the same people are still in the wrong. Sometimes, one really cannot win.

Northern Monkey 20-01-2016 02:16 PM

Ah but what if the kid was actually confessing that his parents are actually terrorists and it was'nt a spelling mistake?You never can be too careful.

Ammi 20-01-2016 02:22 PM

..but would the same have happened, had it not been a Muslim child/family though...and I'm presuming only that one thing and no causes for concern within the family because these things will be a combination and build up, not just one spelling error out of the blue...radicalisation in children will not necessarily be about their culture, it'll be a child who is susceptible for many reasons...maybe neglectful parenting and being exposed to online things and not having many friendships/much confidence/low self esteem etc...a teacher may show it to a Head, but for acted on as only that thing by the Head seems very alarmist to me because school staff know the child...there has to be something more to this story, surely....

joeysteele 20-01-2016 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8444821)
..but would the same have happened, had it not been a Muslim child/family though...and I'm presuming only that one thing and no causes for concern within the family because these things will be a combination and build up, not just one spelling error out of the blue...radicalisation in children will not necessarily be about their culture, it'll be a child who is susceptible for many reasons...maybe neglectful parenting and being exposed to online things and not having many friendships/much confidence/low self esteem etc...a teacher may show it to a Head, but for acted on as only that thing by the Head seems very alarmist to me because school staff know the child...there has to be something more to this story, surely....

... and therein lies the real crucial point to this for me.

Northern Monkey 20-01-2016 02:53 PM

The crucial point is that it is Muslims who are being radicalised....

Ammi 20-01-2016 03:01 PM

..no it really isn't though, it's all vulnerable children and many children, no matter what their culture or religion if they have any at all are vulnerable through circumstances and are looking desperately to either 'escape', 'be understood' or to 'belong' and feel some self worth...

Ammi 20-01-2016 03:02 PM

..anyways, I do think that there may possibly be more to this story than we know...

arista 20-01-2016 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 8444719)
This for me, it seems rather extreme.


Excuse Me...

There is 2 Top Teachers on this thread
its for them to say if its Extreme.

Those Girls that went to Syria (a few months back, London School )
to be Sex Slaves or Terrorists
slipped right past all the Teachers.

Its a very Tricky area, joey

I am sure a Big Copper going in
was not to bad,
not like he arrested anyone.

Livia 20-01-2016 03:06 PM

If no one had paid attention to this and it turned out to be true, people would be calling for someone's head.

This had to be followed up. Not nice for a ten year old, but we live in dangerous times.

arista 20-01-2016 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8444901)
If no one had paid attention to this and it turned out to be true, people would be calling for someone's head.

This had to be followed up. Not nice for a ten year old, but we live in dangerous times.


Yes Livia ,
they would have tracked the Teacher
and dragged her in to a School Enquirer

arista 20-01-2016 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8444890)
..anyways, I do think that there may possibly be more to this story than we know...


It was on GMBHD and SkyNewsHD TV news
its a error
that got the new policy in action.


I mean this could be on QT BBC1
tomorrow

joeysteele 20-01-2016 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8444901)
If no one had paid attention to this and it turned out to be true, people would be calling for someone's head.

This had to be followed up. Not nice for a ten year old, but we live in dangerous times.

I can see that very valid point too.

Crimson Dynamo 20-01-2016 04:55 PM

How sad that any 10 year old boy woukd be described as muslim.

Kizzy 20-01-2016 05:10 PM

If the teacher had asked the lad to read back what he'd written wouldn't it have saved any issue?

kirklancaster 20-01-2016 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8444044)
:fist:

:laugh: I don't know quite why you make me smile Niamh but you often do. :laugh:

kirklancaster 20-01-2016 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8444901)
If no one had paid attention to this and it turned out to be true, people would be calling for someone's head.

This had to be followed up. Not nice for a ten year old, but we live in dangerous times.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: It NEEDED to be investigated.

kirklancaster 20-01-2016 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8444898)
Excuse Me...

There is 2 Top Teachers on this thread
its for them to say if its Extreme.

Those Girls that went to Syria (a few months back, London School )
to be Sex Slaves or Terrorists
slipped right past all the Teachers.

Its a very Tricky area, joey

I am sure a Big Copper going in
was not to bad,
not like he arrested anyone.

True - And there have been children as young as him wielding guns and knives in ISIS videos. It NEEDED investigating.

Ammi 20-01-2016 06:23 PM

..I really can't see that it did need to be investigated in the way that it was though....


'Since last July teachers have been legally obliged to report any suspected extremist behaviour to police as part of the Government's Prevent anti-radicalisation strategy'...so with a 10yr old, mistaking terraced for terrorist is extreme terrorist behaviour, just that/nothing else but that one word would say 'extreme terrorist possibility' to someone...?...


Schools are expected to assess the risk of children being drawn into terrorism...so if the family were no cause for concern previously..(and it would seem not because nothing has been found to be a cause of concern by the police..)...then where was the assessment first, other than that one misspelled word, before the police were called....?....


...the police went to the family home/invaded their privacy by looking through the private laptop, would a white Christian family ever accept that or feel it was ok to do...would they say, well you have to be careful, don't you..I completely understand or would they say...em, excuse me, my child made a spelling error, has no record of any changing behaviour otherwise, do we look like terrorists to you ..?...it's that assumption that it was ok to do because this was a Muslim family and Muslim+mispelled word=possible terrorism...

Kizzy 20-01-2016 08:02 PM

It's a joke, one simple question to the kid would have prevented such a waste of time :/

joeysteele 20-01-2016 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8446033)
..I really can't see that it did need to be investigated in the way that it was though....


'Since last July teachers have been legally obliged to report any suspected extremist behaviour to police as part of the Government's Prevent anti-radicalisation strategy'...so with a 10yr old, mistaking terraced for terrorist is extreme terrorist behaviour, just that/nothing else but that one word would say 'extreme terrorist possibility' to someone...?...


Schools are expected to assess the risk of children being drawn into terrorism...so if the family were no cause for concern previously..(and it would seem not because nothing has been found to be a cause of concern by the police..)...then where was the assessment first, other than that one misspelled word, before the police were called....?....


...the police went to the family home/invaded their privacy by looking through the private laptop, would a white Christian family ever accept that or feel it was ok to do...would they say, well you have to be careful, don't you..I completely understand or would they say...em, excuse me, my child made a spelling error, has no record of any changing behaviour otherwise, do we look like terrorists to you ..?...it's that assumption that it was ok to do because this was a Muslim family and Muslim+mispelled word=possible terrorism...





Really strong point, I can get to a point what others are saying too but I think you have raised very strong and undeniable strong points at that.


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