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Cal. 20-01-2016 08:50 PM

Is Tiffany being ostracized for being American?
 
I'll post my thoughts later.

ThriceShy 20-01-2016 08:51 PM

It's because she is black. Simple as that.

Pete. 20-01-2016 08:51 PM

Yes

Marsh. 20-01-2016 08:52 PM

She's black, American and female. Three sins in Big Brother.

Moosething 20-01-2016 08:52 PM

She is

GiRTh 20-01-2016 08:53 PM

Being the only American left makes her an easy nomination target. The Hm's seems to assume that even if they act like arseholes just cuz they're British the public wont mind. I hope TIff makes the final, the nominations for her have been very tactical throughout the series.

Amy Jade 20-01-2016 09:03 PM

I think it's part of it, I think most of them make very little effort with her such and there seems to be two cliques now and she and Gemma seem out of the loop

I do think her nature may play a part, she's pretty unpredictable and doesn't hold her tongue and that won't sit well with some people.

Niamh. 20-01-2016 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8447083)
I think it's part of it, I think most of them make very little effort with her such and there seems to be two cliques now and she and Gemma seem out of the loop

I do think her nature may play a part, she's pretty unpredictable and doesn't hold her tongue and that won't sit well with some people.


Yeah but the same could be said of Steph and Megan in all fairness

Vicky. 20-01-2016 09:19 PM

Partly.

She didn't get off to a good start with them all either with all the I am HBIC rubbish and then the David thing not too soon afterwards so I do genuinely think the others have bonded with each other more because of that.

Unfortunately, I think it will be the same until the end now. Gemma and John not nominating her though :clap2:

waterhog 20-01-2016 09:19 PM

she just does things different - that's why shes not fitting in.

billy123 20-01-2016 09:20 PM

She is being ostracized for behaving like gobby brat. Her reaction to nominations was pathetic behaviour.

cassieparis 20-01-2016 09:33 PM

She's being ostracized for being the biggest foreign threat.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 20-01-2016 09:38 PM

Them racist bastards. All that **** talking about Gemma not many of them nominated her. What exactly has Tiffany done. Megan blew up like a volcano the other day that's alright is it

Absorption 20-01-2016 09:40 PM

I don't think it's so much a matter of race or gender, more cultural in that you have a group of mainly rather stupid, hystertical British people who can relate to each other on some level more easily than they can Tiffany, who is not the most likeable person in many respects either.

the truth 20-01-2016 09:40 PM

English housemates have on the whole been massively bigoted against the americans for many years. tiff is a twat, but shes an easy target now being the only american

puzzled 20-01-2016 09:48 PM

The housemates were o.k. with the other Americans.

Withano 20-01-2016 09:50 PM

No. People nominate their least favourite people (usually I'm sure even Tiff would admit she's made few friends in the house.

Heaven = Winner 20-01-2016 09:52 PM

I think it's definitely a big part in it, but I generally feel like they don't really try to connect with her, and use her as a scapegoat to make the nominations process easier for themselves to endure

Visage 20-01-2016 09:54 PM

Yes and that's probably why no one nominated Christopher because he's British.


Good call!

rionablue 20-01-2016 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Who Is She? (Post 8446972)
I'll post my thoughts later.

It doesn't matter about the colour of her skin, she really showed herself up tonight being obnoxious and rude to the people who nominated her, not listening to their reasons. telling them not to look at her. I liked her now I am FED UP of her. Her and Gemma are the two biggest divas and bitches in the house.

The nominations face to face were difficult for everyone and not one other housemate treated the nominators like she did.

Crimson Dynamo 20-01-2016 10:01 PM

No for being a disgracefull bully

RodHull 20-01-2016 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8446985)
It's because she is black. Simple as that.

Or perhaps its just cause shes a boring talentless nobody who just huffs around throwing tantrums whenever any comment is made about her :sleep:

letmein 20-01-2016 10:10 PM

She's the nation's sweetheart, so.

the truth 20-01-2016 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RodHull (Post 8447368)
Or perhaps its just cause shes a boring talentless nobody who just huffs around throwing tantrums whenever any comment is made about her :sleep:

yes...but they all do that?

RodHull 20-01-2016 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 8447377)
yes...but they all do that?

No nobody takes it anywhere near as personally as her except Steph and everyone dislikes her equally

She kicked off at the first nomination nobody else did. She has a massively inflated opinion of herself and thought shed be a big deal and she isnt unfortunately she then ostracized herself remember 'i hate all these people in here they aint from where im from' (or words to that effect when speaking to Jonathan) well thats grand, clearly they aren't keen on her either.

Its clear she dislikes most of them and is just acting to survive and they all pick up on it. Its why she blows up when nominated cause it annoys her it was all for nothing (all the ass kissing)

Then she huffs off and isolates herself like child and nobody cares...

Jarvio 20-01-2016 10:30 PM

A load of bullcrap. Being American has nothing to do with it.

Beso 20-01-2016 10:31 PM

maybe they are to polite to tell her that it's her stinky minge that's off putting.

wendywillow 20-01-2016 10:40 PM

the core clique don't want to nom themselves for the most part so shes an easy nom, the whoe "ive bonded with others more" is a bit of a cop out

arney 20-01-2016 10:45 PM

Seriously? 'Pulling the racist card out'?

Some people need to catch themselves on and eat a large bowl of LOL's.

A) She's childish.

B) She's a loud mouth who you'd only want to spend five minutes in a room with, let alone Big Brother.

Edna Mode 20-01-2016 10:53 PM

Definitely. Even the tea and coffee thing showed the cultural differences of American vs. British culture. In America, making tea for somebody isn't even a gesture of anything.
It's like, if you're making tea, you'll ask if someone wants some too, or something, but as Gemma was explaining how it's seen as a really polite thing to do, Tiffany was rightfully confused because in America people usually make coffee/tea in the morning or get it on their way to work. There's no social protocol to it.
Also, I think it's unfair that half of them knew each other in some capacity prior to the show.

RodHull 20-01-2016 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Edna Mode (Post 8447474)
Definitely. Even the tea and coffee thing showed the cultural differences of American vs. British culture. In America, making tea for somebody isn't even a gesture of anything.
It's like, if you're making tea, you'll ask if someone wants some too, or something, but as Gemma was explaining how it's seen as a really polite thing to do, Tiffany was rightfully confused because in America people usually make coffee/tea in the morning or get it on their way to work. There's no social protocol to it.
Also, I think it's unfair that half of them knew each other in some capacity prior to the show.

The problem here is the other Americans suffered no such 'problems' with protocol, even Jonathan whom by any stretch inhabits a weird celebrity world fitted in rather well.

Her issue was she came in proclaiming to them all what a big deal and massive diva she was then wondered why nobody wanted to be close to her, once she realised the show was about survival by fitting in it was to late she had burned her bridges hence why she is now GCs bitch cause she thought that would be her best chance at avoiding noms.

tanussa 20-01-2016 11:23 PM

being american & being black has nothing to do with it. she didnt actually get that many noms for any form of bias to be considered. acting the way she did though during noms will ensure she is a target if there is a next time

Northern Monkey 20-01-2016 11:38 PM

Tbh i've gone off her.She does'nt seem to have a sense of humour.Always so serious.She could smile abit more and have a laugh and try and fit in.I think being American is maybe a small part of it,The humour and values are a little different.

hot2go 20-01-2016 11:48 PM

She's been volatile, unpredictable and explosive from day one...she decided at the start she had nothing in common with anyone...her words not theirs...she f-cked up big time when Bowie died then just as people were starting to forget her uncontrollable temper she kicked off all over again in the puppets task....can't imagine that everyone in the house is racist, that would be highly unlikely....but I'm sure everyone in the house is uncomfortable with psycho behaviour ....as for American, it didn't hamper Jonathon, Angie or David....in fact Jonathon and David were liked by everyone ....

Stevep 20-01-2016 11:50 PM

She's aggressive and confrontational, therefore the housemates want her out.That's not the reason they give when nominating her to her face because........she's aggressive and confrontational.

It's as simple as that.

hot2go 20-01-2016 11:54 PM

None of the people who cry about racism seemed too concerned about ageism when Angie was monumentally ridiculed on here or concerned about a homophobia when Winston behaved like a prick ....so you'll have to excuse me if I don't give a sh-t about peoples unfounded claims of racism ......you can't only fight for human rights if it only affects you...makes your voice irrelevant

hot2go 20-01-2016 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevep (Post 8447576)
She's aggressive and confrontational, therefore the housemates want her out.That's not the reason they give when nominating her to her face because........she's aggressive and confrontational.

It's as simple as that.

GENIUS !!!

the truth 21-01-2016 12:01 AM

tiffany is a twat. but theyre all twats. shes being picked on for 2 reasons 1) shes a twat and 2) shes American and theyre anti American when it comes down the it. her blackness is nothing to do with anything

hot2go 21-01-2016 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 8447273)
Them racist bastards. All that **** talking about Gemma not many of them nominated her. What exactly has Tiffany done. Megan blew up like a volcano the other day that's alright is it

No....Megan is equally as dumb and unpleasant....it's not either/ or...they're both so silly bitches ...

jet 21-01-2016 12:40 AM

I think Tiff has always had a chip on her shoulder anyway, and now all the other Americans have gone, she feels like the odd one out. She didn't do herself any favours tonight, but I can kind of see where she is coming from if she was already feeling vulnerable when it was announced that the noms were starting. She isn't one to hold back and just take it, so off she went...:rant:


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