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arista 15-03-2016 04:54 PM

By 2022 all UK schools will be Academies
 
Academies

This is in tomorrows Budget
reported today on Radio5
Now the next Election is may 2020
and I do not like this plan.
As thats 2 years after the next Election

We need a new rule only do a plan
with the 5 year term Date
from now on.


Joey is that better?

Kizzy 15-03-2016 07:09 PM

All schools will be sponsored by Mc Donalds, no GCSEs other than burger flipping.

Will. 15-03-2016 07:10 PM

What's an academy?

joeysteele 15-03-2016 08:56 PM

Need to hear more on this really but initially I don't like the idea at all.

Marsh. 15-03-2016 08:59 PM

This is absolutely awful.

DemolitionRed 15-03-2016 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will. (Post 8562572)
What's an academy?

Its a private for profits school that will be presently subsidised by the government but just like every other thing that is privatized, they cut back on staff to ensure the profit margins are good.

Kizzy 15-03-2016 10:00 PM

Feel sorry for anyone doing a teaching degree, I hear they've delivered whiteboard markers to the monkey house at London zoo...

Firewire 15-03-2016 10:33 PM

Not all Academies are private, at least in Scotland anyway.

Firewire 15-03-2016 10:34 PM

But it's a stupid thing to waste money on

arista 15-03-2016 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 8562779)
Need to hear more on this really but initially I don't like the idea at all.



They must not go over their bloody
5 year term
Next Election is 2020 May


To say by 2022 is wrong.

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Budget-...ail/story.html

http://news.sky.com/story/1660531/ed...sbornes-budget

arista 16-03-2016 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will. (Post 8562572)
What's an academy?


No more Going home at 3:30PM
for you.

To be announced today in the budget

Ammi 16-03-2016 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will. (Post 8562572)
What's an academy?

..they're like most other things really Will, there are some great academy schools out there and some not so great ones, much the same as state schools...I think that it's inevitable that it'll go this way/to mainly academy schools in the future, simply because 'raising the standards' in schools can only be done if there is the funding there for it to be a possibility...it doesn't have to be a negative though because as there are more and more academy schools, the standards are being raised in them all of the time...

Kizzy 16-03-2016 07:33 AM

Thing is under performing state schools, like hospitals are put on 'special measures' (mainly inner city schools)their funding is reduced (further exacerbating problems) and then they're threatened with closure.
They are regulated into submission, yet as seen recently with the ' Trojan horse' scandal, some schools turned academy are dangerously under regulated.

Ammi 16-03-2016 07:42 AM

..the funding in all schools is being reduced and quite substantially, it's obviously going to make it impossible for those under-achieving already especially if they haven't been able to carry anything forward in their striving to raise standards...at least academy run schools may make it possible to have bigger budgets and may mean the funding that is needed becoming possible../we'll see, some academies are really working well, it's about having the right team/people in place....

Kizzy 16-03-2016 08:00 AM

And for those which don't have the right teams in place, where is the accountability?

Ammi 16-03-2016 08:10 AM

..there will still be accountability, there is always accountability..anyways, as I say..I'm going to watch with interest because many are working for the children and raising those standards which were much needed to be raised in a way that state funding wasn't doing...we are a good school with some outstanding features and yet still struggling on an ever decreasing budget so academies may be the way of the future, I'm optimistic....

Cherie 16-03-2016 08:28 AM

I'm not sure about this, if teachers are unsettled and leaving the profession now how will this help?

Will. 16-03-2016 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8562927)
No more Going home at 3:30PM
for you.

oh

To be announced today in the budget

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 8562853)
Its a private for profits school that will be presently subsidised by the government but just like every other thing that is privatized, they cut back on staff to ensure the profit margins are good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8562973)
..they're like most other things really Will, there are some great academy schools out there and some not so great ones, much the same as state schools...I think that it's inevitable that it'll go this way/to mainly academy schools in the future, simply because 'raising the standards' in schools can only be done if there is the funding there for it to be a possibility...it doesn't have to be a negative though because as there are more and more academy schools, the standards are being raised in them all of the time...


Ah ok, thank you both :)

Will. 16-03-2016 08:31 AM

My secondary school is called a "college" and we have to do extra activities after school until 4:30PM, sounds like some of the changes are what my school does.

Cherie 16-03-2016 08:34 AM

What if the Tories are turfed out in 2020 and the new government changes policy :idc:

Cherie 16-03-2016 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will. (Post 8563058)
My secondary school is called a "college" and we have to do extra activities after school until 4:30PM, sounds like some of the changes are what my school does.

What is the age range Will, usually Colleges are for 16 plus?

DemolitionRed 16-03-2016 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8563018)
Thing is under performing state schools, like hospitals are put on 'special measures' (mainly inner city schools)their funding is reduced (further exacerbating problems) and then they're threatened with closure.
They are regulated into submission, yet as seen recently with the ' Trojan horse' scandal, some schools turned academy are dangerously under regulated.

Yes of course they are because this new academy nonsense is just another wolf in sheep’s clothing. Academias don't empower local communities and nor do they improve standards for all. It’s a corporate experiment that risks the vital years of our children’s education.

There is no requirement for staff or parents to be consulted and so once again, the public and the workers never got a say in yet ANOTHER privatization process. In my world that’ comes under undemocratic privilege by the seats in Whitehall, but the idea of academies was never about raising standards in education; its about separating the wheat from the chaff and putting money in the pockets of the free marketeers who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing."

Will. 16-03-2016 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8563060)
What is the age range Will, usually Colleges are for 16 plus?

11-18, there's also primary and Nursery so 0-18 :laugh:

Ammi 16-03-2016 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8563060)
What is the age range Will, usually Colleges are for 16 plus?

..our feeder school is a college, they used to be called upper schools in the three tier system where there were middle schools as well..there are still a few areas here who haven't yet gone over to the two tier system yet, but our colleges take children from 11yrs old, with 6th forms from 16yrs old...

Cherie 16-03-2016 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will. (Post 8563062)
13-18, there's also primary and Nursery so 0-18 :laugh:

You and your fancy College Will, I don't know what that means for you then I guess it might become an academy :think:

Will. 16-03-2016 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8563064)
You and your fancy College Will, I don't know what that means for you then I guess it might become an academy :think:

Maybe, Academy reminds me of like a game and you go and train to become a warrior or something in an academy. :laugh:

Cherie 16-03-2016 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8563063)
..our feeder school is a college, they used to be called upper schools in the three tier system where there were middle schools as well..there are still a few areas here who haven't yet gone over to the two tier system yet, but our colleges take children from 11yrs old, with 6th forms from 16yrs old...

We haven't had a three tier system for years, primary 3 to 11, then a mixture of secondary schools including comprehensive, academy and grammar, sixth form colleges and a college which is for 16 plus and offers NVQs and BTechs as well as A levels, what will happen to grammar schools under this new policy :think:

The private school has a lower, middle and upper though

Marsh. 16-03-2016 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will. (Post 8563068)
Maybe, Academy reminds me of like a game and you go and train to become a warrior or something in an academy. :laugh:

Beauxbatons Academy for Witches and Wizards?

Cherie 16-03-2016 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will. (Post 8563068)
Maybe, Academy reminds me of like a game and you go and train to become a warrior or something in an academy. :laugh:

My sons school changed to an academy around year 9 it didn't make any difference as far as I could see, the parents did get to vote for the change

Nicky91 16-03-2016 09:11 AM

so Academies are for children with Rich parents only, or am i wrong?


Academies are where children wear school uniforms, right

Kizzy 16-03-2016 09:15 AM

For Labour, shadow education secretary Lucy Powell accused ministers of ignoring a warning by the Chief Inspector of Schools Sir Michael Wilshaw highlighting "serious weaknesses" in academy chains.
"How the Government can plough ahead with the wholesale academisation of all schools in light of his evidence beggars belief. We want to see robust accountability and oversight of all schools regardless of type," she said.

"It's about time the Government came forward with a comprehensive plan for school improvement for all children, in all schools up and down the country, and a serious strategy for raising standards for the next generation."

Writing in the Independent, shadow Chancellor John McDonnell said: "There is no economic justification for the Chancellor's cuts. He has made a political choice to impose them. That has meant putting his own ambitions on the Tory leadership ahead of what is good for the country."

Mr McDonnell accused the Chancellor of planning to target the most vulnerable to plug the holes in his economic plans.
"This constitutes a new low. Labour will insist that he steps back from the brink," he said.'

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ge...080351700.html

_Tom_ 16-03-2016 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 8563085)
so Academies are for children with Rich parents only, or am i wrong?


Academies are where children wear school uniforms, right

No, I went to an academy. :laugh: They closed down three local secondary schools in my area when I was in Year 9 and built a large academy and merged all students and staff.

The day was 8.45am - 2.45pm, but older students could have an extra lesson ending at 4.15pm. Lessons were a lot longer, usually 1 hour and a half. I remember in its first year some lessons were 3 hours long. :umm2:

Nicky91 16-03-2016 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Tom_ (Post 8563097)
No, I went to an academy. :laugh: They closed down three local secondary schools in my area when I was in Year 9 and built a large academy and merged all students and staff.

The day was 8.45am - 2.45pm, but older students could have an extra lesson ending at 4.15pm. Lessons were a lot longer, usually 1 hour and a half. I remember in its first year some lessons were 3 hours long. :umm2:

okay :laugh: , now i know you are not from a wealthy family :joker: :laugh:


i really thought that, because some academy's are private, right


awkward moment for me :facepalm:

Toy Soldier 16-03-2016 09:53 AM

I have no idea why the government continue to Shylock education... it's THE most vital part of a healthy economy, surely.

Unless, of course, what they want is the majority of people going into unskilled labour or vocational trades with only those who can afford private education going into academia or careers that require a higher level of education. That couldn't possibly be what they would like to see though, right?

Will. 16-03-2016 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8563073)
Beauxbatons Academy for Witches and Wizards?


:laugh:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8563075)
My sons school changed to an academy around year 9 it didn't make any difference as far as I could see, the parents did get to vote for the change


Ah ok.

Denver 16-03-2016 10:18 AM

Should be grateful they have a school to go to :idc: the kids of Africa would love a academy

Kizzy 16-03-2016 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8563140)
I have no idea why the government continue to Shylock education... it's THE most vital part of a healthy economy, surely.

Unless, of course, what they want is the majority of people going into unskilled labour or vocational trades with only those who can afford private education going into academia or careers that require a higher level of education. That couldn't possibly be what they would like to see though, right?

Called it... :(

Ammi 16-03-2016 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8563071)
We haven't had a three tier system for years, primary 3 to 11, then a mixture of secondary schools including comprehensive, academy and grammar, sixth form colleges and a college which is for 16 plus and offers NVQs and BTechs as well as A levels, what will happen to grammar schools under this new policy :think:

The private school has a lower, middle and upper though

..yeah, we've been one of the later counties to adopt the two tier system and when we did, there was a lot of concerns/opposition from parents who felt that the 'soft and gentler easing' through a middle school was the way but I don't think that I've spoken to any parent since who has that same view and still thinks that it wasn't a good idea...there will undoubtedly be exceptions, I'm sure but on the whole, it's been a great thing...the interesting thing about academy schools as well is that we've created a 'network' to go around and look at some academy schools with some of our local state run schools because we were sceptical as well and so far..(we've visited 5 I think and met to discuss them because I think the only way is to actually see something up and running/see how it works for ourselves..)..it's all been really favourable stuff, things that we would like to implement ourselves in school but we're not able to because of funding...both staff and pupils seem really happy with their academy school and for good reasons...we also have one locally which hasn't been 'tested' yet as it's still being built but already, there are many pupils in the local community college who are hoping to and eager to transfer there when it opens because of what it's offering compared to what they have available to them atm....

arista 16-03-2016 10:58 AM

4:30PM for Will to go home from School

Extra Hour to be added
to Match South Korea and China

http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-992x558.jpg

rubymoo 16-03-2016 10:59 AM

My girls go to a secondary school academy, last year the deputy head told the students they were bankrupt, so they were trying to think of ways to make extra money, however they have just kitted out the computer suites with brand new computers with windows 10, this winter my girls have had to sit in classes with their coats on because the heating has been turned off, something tells me that maybe they aren't running this school as well as it should be, and why aren't academy's changing school holidays and sticking to state school holidays, the difference of a holiday a week before and after the summer hols are considerably lower, i'll be glad when my 2 leave the school system behind!


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