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alex_front2 31-03-2016 08:00 PM

US women's soccer team demand equal pay to USMNT
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...sage/82466586/


http://www.theguardian.com/football/...discrimination

Basically US women don't get paid for world cup qualifiers but the men do, and the men get paid a lot more for friendly games. The women won the world cup...

Your thoughts on this, please.

Ninastar 31-03-2016 08:08 PM

They do the same amount of football, it should be the same amount of pay really.

Cherie 31-03-2016 10:29 PM

If they are generating more revenue they should be paid more

BBfanUSA 31-03-2016 11:14 PM

Well, they can actually advance in the world cup unlike the men's team why not. *sips tea*

Cherie 01-04-2016 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBfanUSA (Post 8590525)
Well, they can actually advance in the world cup unlike the men's team why not. *sips tea*


Sips tea also

Crimson Dynamo 01-04-2016 01:41 PM

lol, i dont think women play football :joker:


can some one check this

:think:

armand.kay 01-04-2016 01:44 PM

If people aren't watching women's soccer as much as they watch men's then why should they expect the same pay :shrug:

Cherie 01-04-2016 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8591015)
If people aren't watching women's soccer as much as they watch men's then why should they expect the same pay :shrug:


Read the article women's football generated 20m more than mens :fist:

BBfanUSA 01-04-2016 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8591019)
Read the article women's football generated 20m more than mens :fist:

*US Soccer actually

Tom4784 01-04-2016 04:28 PM

The Women's team is more successful and high profile at this point, I know more female US players then male ones.

There's no reason why they shouldn't be paid as much, or more, as the males since the females are arguably the bigger draw here.

Cherie 01-04-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BBfanUSA (Post 8591127)
*US Soccer actually

Aw yeah of course you call it soccer, it's football here

Alf 01-04-2016 05:14 PM

No sports person should be paid for representing their Country, it should be an honour and privilege to be asked to wear your Country's colours.

alex_front2 01-04-2016 06:44 PM

This is a conundrum. If women, U21 or kids are more successful than men should they get paid more? Eg World Cup England women's team came #3. Could have won whole tournament if US faltered in final. The men could not get out of a group with past it Italy and drew dead rubber against Costa Rica. Should Lucy Bronze et al get paid more than Rooney et al? Also should US men get paid more than England as they did reach R16. The Ghanaian's got paid the most weirdly

This boils down to fact that men's sport is superior than women's, most sports fans are men. Men by and large don't generally care about women's sport (unless it's beach volleyball or hot good tennis players). Guys didn't dash home or to the pub to watch the women's world cup. The BBC tried to big up the viewing figures but they were shockingly relatively low considering its football. Not a single football broadcasting pub near me showed the women's matches.

I understand the women's game in US is popular because the women triumphed and are good (but the US will get behind any sport they are good at eg tiddlywinks). As soon as the men's USMNT become a national force to compete with Spain, Brazil, Germany, France and Argentina and reach WORLD Cup finals the women's team will be swiftly forgotten about I suspect.

Biology just mena the best athletes are men. I love Serena Williams but Novak Djokovic could play the entire women's top 20 in a day and not break serve let alone break a sweat, the women wouldn't even get a point. On a tangent, knock on effect, now that they have allowed pre op transgender people to compete i will be very interested to see the impact it has on womens sport. Caitlin Jenner at 56 could still compete against women and win easily. Tiger Woods comes out as trans and competes on the women's tour....

Vicky. 01-04-2016 06:47 PM

Should be a set amount of pay per hour for both men and womens. And then those more popular top up their pay with sponsors and such. Same for the tennis crap thats being bitched about. Would sol;ve a lot of 'stress'

For tennis basic tourney cash money, that can be topped up by sponsors if they wish to

That way the more popular athletes continue to be paid more (as they should be) and noone can moan about it

alex_front2 01-04-2016 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 8591223)
No sports person should be paid for representing their Country, it should be an honour and privilege to be asked to wear your Country's colours.

That's a nice quaint notion, but in the real world not all players are on Rooney £300k a week mega salaries, some players don't even play in a confederates league. Some players for Faroe Islands, San Marino have to take time off work to participate in qualifications (no chance of qualifying, too). The Albanians aren't exactly rolling in dosh either.

Alf 02-04-2016 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex_front2 (Post 8591345)
That's a nice quaint notion, but in the real world not all players are on Rooney £300k a week mega salaries, some players don't even play in a confederates league. Some players for Faroe Islands, San Marino have to take time off work to participate in qualifications (no chance of qualifying, too). The Albanians aren't exactly rolling in dosh either.

You seem to have some sort of beef with Rooney, I'm getting to think it's something personal he's done to you.

You gonna let us all in on the story of what Rooney did to earn your wrath?

Mystic Mock 02-04-2016 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 8590239)
They do the same amount of football, it should be the same amount of pay really.

This.

In fact the women should be being paid more than the men's side just for the fact that it's the more successful team.

alex_front2 02-04-2016 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8591626)
This.

In fact the women should be being paid more than the men's side just for the fact that it's the more successful team.

So the England women should get laid more than the men, too?

Cherie 02-04-2016 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by alex_front2 (Post 8592733)
So the England women should get laid more than the men, too?


Not sure what their sex life has to do with it, but yes they should get paid more

Tom4784 02-04-2016 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 8591223)
No sports person should be paid for representing their Country, it should be an honour and privilege to be asked to wear your Country's colours.

Well, no. It's a job so of course they should be paid for their services.

Patriotism is a foolish thing.

alex_front2 02-04-2016 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 8591614)
You seem to have some sort of beef with Rooney, I'm getting to think it's something personal he's done to you.

You gonna let us all in on the story of what Rooney did to earn your wrath?

Yes he ate my pet Illama and tried to shag my great great great great grandmother. The useless to$$er. :laugh:

Mystic Mock 03-04-2016 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex_front2 (Post 8592733)
So the England women should get laid more than the men, too?

Laid more?:laugh:

But yes our women's team was much more successful so yes should've been paid more than our men's England Football team.

Who knows it might've given the men a kick up the backside for future tournaments if they actually did that pay as you play system for everybody.

Mystic Mock 03-04-2016 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8592758)
Well, no. It's a job so of course they should be paid for their services.

Patriotism is a foolish thing.

Well no it's not bad to have basic pride for your country.

I do agree however that it's gonna be hard ask for people to do a job for free, as really it's like the public would be watching Slaves playing a Sport on TV.

arista 03-04-2016 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBfanUSA (Post 8590525)
Well, they can actually advance in the world cup unlike the men's team why not. *sips tea*


Good point
The Sexy USA womens team
do well .

I guess as its USA they may get the Cash.

Sign Of The Times

arista 03-04-2016 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8591186)
The Women's team is more successful and high profile at this point, I know more female US players then male ones.

There's no reason why they shouldn't be paid as much, or more, as the males since the females are arguably the bigger draw here.


How Nice

arista 03-04-2016 03:22 AM

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-st...4596-0_big.jpg
Sit On My Face

Ammi 03-04-2016 05:15 AM

...oh..they maybe might demand more money for that as well, Arista...

Mystic Mock 03-04-2016 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8592957)
Good point
The Sexy USA womens team
do well .

I guess as its USA they may get the Cash.

Sign Of The Times

The USA have managed to hire beautiful women that are actually talented at Football? A women's team that isn't actually missing one of the two?

alex_front2 03-04-2016 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8592738)
Not sure what their sex life has to do with it, but yes they should get paid more

Typo I meant paid.

Mystic Mock 04-04-2016 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8592959)

With the exception of the one in the middle, I think that AlexFront2 might've had a good idea of getting laid.:hehe:

BBfanUSA 05-04-2016 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8594517)
With the exception of the one in the middle, I think that AlexFront2 might've had a good idea of getting laid.:hehe:

The two on the left are taken, sorry. (Leroux and Morgan)

Mystic Mock 06-04-2016 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBfanUSA (Post 8596844)
The two on the left are taken, sorry. (Leroux and Morgan)

That's okay I'll just take the two on the right.:joker:

lostalex 06-04-2016 01:33 AM

they definitely deserve it. the US men are okay, but the US women are the best in the F'ing world.

Niamh. 06-04-2016 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8597536)
they definitely deserve it. the US men are okay, but the US women are the best in the F'ing world.

I always got the impression that soccer is a bigger sport for girls over boys in the US

alex_front2 06-04-2016 12:33 PM

A big reason why US is on top is several nations where men's 'soccer' is successful eg Argentina, Brazil, Nigeria, Spain there is a lack of interest in women's sports. There was very little pressin Spain during the women's world cup . Marta 'the female Pele has got to wander across Europe to play these days. She's not well known or loved in Brazil.

As soon as the US Men's team does well * the women's team will be history.

* This won't happen any time soon as
  • Klinsmann seems to have no tactical acumen and seems to play players out of position. Won't be shocked if goalie Tim Howard ends up playing as a centre forward :laugh:
  • Klinsmann keeps picking players such as Howard and Guzan who are either unable to get into Everton or useless at Villa
  • Too many of the young guys play in the MLS which is the worst league for a young player. They should go the Bundesliga or Bundesliga 2 at a mid table club. Brookes is now thriving at league postion #3 Hertha Berlin. Or the young players could try for a spot at St Pauli (or La Liga's Rayo Vallecano which has a US franchise Rayo OK). If the youngesters want to play in England they should do some research and try and land a spot in and up and coming mid table Championship side who could get into Premier League or a play off spot next season. They would get first team football at league 1 and 2 which IMO is better than MLS. Overhyped US whizzkid Jordan Morris decision to snub the Bundesliga for MLS was one of the dumbest decisions in 'soccer' history. Just because something is American it's better. MLS is on par with League 2.

Tom4784 06-04-2016 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8597775)
I always got the impression that soccer is a bigger sport for girls over boys in the US

Have you no shame?

Niamh. 06-04-2016 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8598036)
Have you no shame?

Football is Gaelic Football :idc:

Mystic Mock 08-04-2016 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8598038)
Football is Garlic Football :idc:

Yum!:dance::drool:

Ninastar 08-04-2016 09:36 AM

we need a USWNT fangirl thread tbh. i fancy almost all of them

BBfanUSA 09-04-2016 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8598036)
Have you no shame?

Agreed, most supporters clubs are comprised of generally men here in the states. Although there's a few women involved in each.


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