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ThriceShy 10-06-2016 11:03 AM

I very much doubt Andrew is a racist
 
This is a pic of his dad:

https://images.chesscomfiles.com/upl...phpgfKRST.jpeg

Andrew is part black.

Amy Jade 10-06-2016 11:05 AM

Yet he uses racial slurs. :shrug:

MrWong 10-06-2016 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8705471)
Yet he uses racial slurs. :shrug:

Self hatred?

Amy Jade 10-06-2016 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 8705475)
Self hatred?

That's a good point. I'd hate myself too if I was as tragic and desperate as he is.

Samm 10-06-2016 11:28 AM

He can still be racist looool

Headie 10-06-2016 11:30 AM

https://media.giphy.com/media/2UqtrCLuOMEw0/giphy.gif

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8705471)
Yet he uses racial slurs. :shrug:

Yes. I hear black people using the N word all the time.

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 8705475)
Self hatred?

Are you saying that all the black rappers that sing the N word are hating themselves?:shrug:

Crimson Dynamo 10-06-2016 11:34 AM

"Im not a racist, some of my best parents are black"

Tom4784 10-06-2016 11:36 AM

He's every other kind of -ist and -ic going and he's used racial slurs in the past.

It's a foregone conclusion at this point.

Crimson Dynamo 10-06-2016 11:38 AM

his view of women is frankly repulsive

Tom4784 10-06-2016 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8705517)
Are you saying that all the black rappers that sing the N word are hating themselves?:shrug:

Don't be dense.

Different context, different meaning.

Shaun 10-06-2016 11:42 AM

Perhaps not but his choice of language is stupid and invites doubt.

Lostie! 10-06-2016 11:44 AM

Cool, now you just need to find evidence of a gay relative and a relative with "down symdrome" to absolve him of the rest of the awful things he's said.

(Not that it would, because of course it bloody wouldn't)

MrWong 10-06-2016 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8705517)
Are you saying that all the black rappers that sing the N word are hating themselves?:shrug:

No. You brought rappers and the N word in to the conversation not me.

Do these rappers say stuff like "The racist woman was right"? like Andrew did?

billy123 10-06-2016 11:48 AM

You are making the mistake of thinking anybody other than a couple of dozen BB addicted forum posting obsessives give a dogs dick about it or him.
Really who cares about some chode on a little watched backwater reality show.

caprimint 10-06-2016 11:57 AM

People judging before they know anything about him. Sounds much like the internet.

Crimson Dynamo 10-06-2016 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 8705551)
People judging before they know anything about him. Sounds much like the internet.

that is incorrect he has made a great habit of posting many thoughts and pictures on social media over the last 5 years and it allows you to build up a picture of who he is.

and so far he is a twat

so lets see if he can live up to his advertising?

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8705524)
Don't be dense.

Different context, different meaning.

But it shows that black people can use racist language without being racist.

Do you really believe that Andrew is racist, given that his dad is clearly black and he is part black?

caprimint 10-06-2016 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8705559)
that is incorrect he has made a great habit of posting many thoughts and pictures on social media over the last 5 years and it allows you to build up a picture of who he is.

and so far he is a twat

so lets see if he can live up to his advertising?

We still don't know a whole lot about his upbringing (so I've heard it wasn't the best) and anything about his life. We've seen some words on a screen and as far as I'm concerned that's as far as it goes. I have little interest at looking into detail regarding his past however, because it has zero relevance to his housemate status.

Headie 10-06-2016 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8705565)
But it shows that black people can use racist language without being racist.

Do you really believe that Andrew is racist, given that his dad is clearly black and he is part black?

Is his best friend black too?

Crimson Dynamo 10-06-2016 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 8705576)
We still don't know a whole lot about his upbringing (so I've heard it wasn't the best) and anything about his life. We've seen some words on a screen and as far as I'm concerned that's as far as it goes. I have little interest at looking into detail regarding his past however, because it has zero relevance to his housemate status.

you know you can do both

judge him as a housemate and judge his extensive social media profile prior


Its not against the law

Niamh. 10-06-2016 12:36 PM

where did you get that picture?

Livia 10-06-2016 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 8705551)
People judging before they know anything about him. Sounds much like the internet.

He's in Big Brother. This is an Internet forum about Big Brother. He put himself up for discussion while being aware of the bigoted posts he'd made in the past so forgive us all if we're here doing what this place is designed for.

crazycolaist 10-06-2016 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8705517)
Are you saying that all the black rappers that sing the N word are hating themselves?:shrug:

You can tell the difference between hate speech and peoples bars in rap tunes, dont play devils advocate here mate will do you 0 favours

caprimint 10-06-2016 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8705584)
you know you can do both

judge him as a housemate and judge his extensive social media profile prior


Its not against the law

I didn't say it was, I personally just don't deem it relevant when we're watching a show like this. If you dug up everyone's backgrounds you'd probably find a whole lot more information, but then you'd be against supporting anybody. Somebody could be absolutely lovely on social media, it doesn't mean they're a nice person but in the house they could be a riot.

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8705760)
He's in Big Brother. This is an Internet forum about Big Brother. He put himself up for discussion while being aware of the bigoted posts he'd made in the past so forgive us all if we're here doing what this place is designed for.

Of course it's going to happen. It's just a shame that it does before they're given a real chance to prove their worth.

hot2go 10-06-2016 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8705469)
This is a pic of his dad:

https://images.chesscomfiles.com/upl...phpgfKRST.jpeg

Andrew is part black.

Oh that is hilarious .....I don't know what's true about the guy but I do know pics from sum Twitter page aren't concrete evidence ....if it turns out those tweets are fake then a lot of people on here should feel very guilty indeed

hot2go 10-06-2016 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 8705540)
You are making the mistake of thinking anybody other than a couple of dozen BB addicted forum posting obsessives give a dogs dick about it or him.
Really who cares about some chode on a little watched backwater reality show.

Well you clearly do cause you're hear and your talking about it :joker::joker::joker::joker:

Northern Monkey 10-06-2016 02:38 PM

Well according to a small minority of people 'black people can't be racist'(unless it suits their agenda of course).Anyway after watching his vid on Muslim terrorists he does'nt seem racist towards them.Maybe he is racist towards black people or maybe he has changed since 2012 or maybe he did'nt mean his tweets and it was just his humour or maybe......
Loads of maybes but nobody actually knows.

hot2go 10-06-2016 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8705910)
Well according to a small minority of people 'black people can't be racist'(unless it suits their agenda of course).Anyway after watching his vid on Muslim terrorists he does'nt seem racist towards them.Maybe he is racist towards black people or maybe he has changed since 2012 or maybe he did'nt mean his tweets and it was just his humour or maybe......
Loads of maybes but nobody actually knows.

:clap1::clap1:

hot2go 10-06-2016 02:45 PM

Personally I think he's not like anyone else in there and will be a massive challenge to all of them and I wanna watch that....he ain't gonna be riding round on some bed or taking permanent residence in front of the bedroom mirrors....he's gonna blow the f-ckin roof off ....you want nice guys then go watch the Care Bears

Tom4784 10-06-2016 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8705565)
But it shows that black people can use racist language without being racist.

Do you really believe that Andrew is racist, given that his dad is clearly black and he is part black?


Again, you're being dense and you know it.

You know perfectly well that the N-Word's origin and you know full well that there's a variant of it that has been reclaimed by some black people to mean something less offensive to them.

Being part black doesn't excuse him from being racist and it's fair to think that he is a racist given how he has used racial slurs towards other people and is generally bigoted.

Tom4784 10-06-2016 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8705910)
Well according to a small minority of people 'black people can't be racist'(unless it suits their agenda of course).Anyway after watching his vid on Muslim terrorists he does'nt seem racist towards them.Maybe he is racist towards black people or maybe he has changed since 2012 or maybe he did'nt mean his tweets and it was just his humour or maybe......
Loads of maybes but nobody actually knows.

That's bull**** and you know it. No one has ever said that black people can't be racist, it's just a misquote used by closet racists in an attempt to justify their ****ty views.

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8705624)
where did you get that picture?

I dressed entirely in black and cat burgled his house in the middle of the night and stole that picture from a drawer in his study. Then scanned it in to my PC.

Or perhaps I just googled his famous chess player dad.

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8705919)
Again, you're being dense and you know it.

You know perfectly well that the N-Word's origin and you know full well that there's a variant of it that has been reclaimed by some black people to mean something less offensive to them.

Being part black doesn't excuse him from being racist and it's fair to think that he is a racist given how he has used racial slurs towards other people and is generally bigoted.

Please don't make me post the definition of bigot again.

He has said nothing bigoted. The bigots are the people who don't want him to express his opinion.

You can't be racist toward your own race. Simple as that. He is just a bit of a WUM on twitter.

Amy Jade 10-06-2016 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8705995)
He has said nothing bigoted. The bigots are the people who don't want him to express his opinion.

You can't be racist toward your own race. Simple as that.

If he's not a bigot what's that video about where he calls people idiots for expressing their opinion about the Smith's?

Yes you can be racist towards your own race.

Niamh. 10-06-2016 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8705978)
I dressed entirely in black and cat burgled his house in the middle of the night and stole that picture from a drawer in his study. Then scanned it in to my PC.

Or perhaps I just googled his famous chess player dad.

There's no need to be rude, Jez :/

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8706041)
There's no need to be rude, Jez :/

It just seemed an odd question. Given that the source of the pic is in the URL when you click it.

Niamh. 10-06-2016 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706056)
It just seemed an odd question. Given that the source of the pic is in the URL when you click it.

I didn't know he was a famous chess player

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8706083)
I didn't know he was a famous chess player

So you did no research on andrew before deciding he was a racist.


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