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Vanessa 19-06-2016 12:37 AM

Marco mother speaks out
 
Interesting article where Marco's mother talks about her son. Can't help thinking how he would have turned out with a more stable family life.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ost-child.html

Vanessa 19-06-2016 12:37 AM

She's awaiting trial for attacking both her sons :umm2:

Vicky. 19-06-2016 01:15 AM

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The wording in the link is rather strange...

But yeah, bad childhood. Loads of cash. In turn bunch of drugs. Never had to earn his keep. Overgrown manchild essentially. Its sad really when you think about it. I said quite early on in the show that watching him was like watching one of the young 'stars' going off the rails, in action and with the breakdown being applauded and encouraged. Nothing has changed...

Tom4784 19-06-2016 01:26 AM

I don't think a bad upbringing is an excuse. There's plenty of people who have been raised in worse circumstances that have turned out to be good people despite bad parenting.

Marco is old enough to realise his parents mistakes and not let them define him.

Rob! 19-06-2016 01:28 AM

Sad thing is I doubt he's even hit his low point yet. I'd love to think he'd watch his time in the house back and realise what a knob he made of himself but I doubt it somehow.

Maru 19-06-2016 01:49 AM

Marco's mother writes better than most other DM writers. (I'm sure she had an editor) She wasn't quick to blame his father and mentioned her own faults as well.

Still think him being ejected was the best thing to happen to him. Maybe he will learn. Or, he will just milk the attention and nothing will change.

I wonder why she didn't show up to the ejection?

hot2go 19-06-2016 02:12 AM

The guy is in pain yet still was never malicious in the house ....I found behaviour of some other housemates more ugly....Luara, Jayne, Ryan, Sam..

I liked the fact he was wild and unpredictable.....

The problem with people who have no vices is that they have some really annoying virtues.

At least he was open about what he likes to do.

MojoNixon 19-06-2016 03:09 AM

Article does not make him any better housemate that he was. Glad that he is out.

Vanessa 19-06-2016 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8737354)
The guy is in pain yet still was never malicious in the house ....I found behaviour of some other housemates more ugly....Luara, Jayne, Ryan, Sam..

I liked the fact he was wild and unpredictable.....

The problem with people who have no vices is that they have some really annoying virtues.

At least he was open about what he likes to do.

I like that he's wild. I just hope he doesn't go off the rails.

Ammi 19-06-2016 05:27 AM

..it's a sad read for sure..I don't think that having an 'advantaged' upbringing/life in terms of money, has been an advantage at all, it's probably been one of the biggest disadvantages in that it's possibly led to his friendships being ones that have revolved around his money rather than who he is../more shallow friendships etc...if he had not been spoilt with money and materialistic things, then his friendships would have been because of the person he was and he himself would have been in no doubt about that, so felt much more self-worth...


..one of the most loving things that we can do for our children/to make them feel loved is to be a clearly defined parent..a huge part of them growing is in choosing their friendships and learning from their friendships../the people who they will choose to keep in their lives..Marco has never learned that either I don't think..one of the most sad things of what his mum said is that she feels or fears as though 'there is no hope for him'...what he needs is a belief that whatever road of 'destruction' he's travelling on now, there is every hope for him and a happy outcome from the two people who should have and should have had a complete belief in him..his mum and dad...

Cherie 19-06-2016 08:06 AM

Interesting that she found the time to sell her story to the DM

Vanessa 19-06-2016 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8737438)
Interesting that she found the time to sell her story to the DM

I know, some mother :nono:

Nicky91 19-06-2016 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8737441)
I know, some mother :nono:

i can agree with you Vanessa, finally we can agree on something, i find it rude from his mother, that she hasn't had time to support him on BB live eviction show, but she can make time for a interview with DM :hehe:



i like you Nessa :) , we sometimes have got different opinions, but you are still one of my friends on this forum

y.winter 19-06-2016 08:14 AM

Sad story but they're all so twisted to the extent I couldn't care about any of them. Good luck to them with becoming sane.

Kazanne 19-06-2016 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8737441)
I know, some mother :nono:

She sounds like a right angry woman,she trashed Marco Snr's car aswell didn't she? I bet those kids have seen and heard some stuff.

Clootie Dumpling 19-06-2016 10:47 AM

I feel very sorry for Mati and, while still despising his behaviour in the House, I feel sorry for him, too.

The monster in all of this is Marco Pierre White Snr, whose own behaviour and twisted concept of parental roles, as described in the DM article, come as no surprise and go a long way towards explaining why Marco Jnr is as he is.

This puts his constant attention-seeking and the need to touch everyone all the time into perspective. He craves love and reassurance, which he didn't get as a child, because he father was an unapproachable angry character, who belittled his mother and ignored his children.

Vanessa 19-06-2016 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8737511)
She sounds like a right angry woman,she trashed Marco Snr's car aswell didn't she? I bet those kids have seen and heard some stuff.

And she's wrong about Marco. He's only 21 so not too late. He will grow up eventually :hee:

Ellen 19-06-2016 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 8737442)
i can agree with you Vanessa, finally we can agree on something, i find it rude from his mother, that she hasn't had time to support him on BB live eviction show, but she can make time for a interview with DM :hehe:



i like you Nessa :) , we sometimes have got different opinions, but you are still one of my friends on this forum

i dont know but there maybe an injunction on her with her been violent towards her sons?
I agree that she should not be talking to the papers, not the best move on her part.

Vanessa 19-06-2016 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 8737640)
i dont know but there maybe an injunction on her with her been violent towards her sons?
I agree that she should not be talking to the papers, not the best move on her part.

Yes she attacked Marco and then his brother when he tried to protect him. :mad:

Ellen 19-06-2016 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8737642)
Yes she attacked Marco and then his brother when he tried to protect him. :mad:

She's probably not allowed anywhere near him Vanessa, not that he would want her to be by the sounds of it.

Vanessa 19-06-2016 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 8737648)
She's probably not allowed anywhere near him Vanessa, not that he would want her to be by the sounds of it.

It must be hard for him. Your mum is always your mum. Even a volatile one like her. But he never talks about her :(

Ellen 19-06-2016 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8737654)
It must be hard for him. Your mum is always your mum. Even a volatile one like her. But he never talks about her :(

It is a shame, something must have gone badly wrong. It isnt going to help her build a relationship back up with him with her going too the press :nono:

Vanessa 19-06-2016 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 8737658)
It is a shame, something must have gone badly wrong. It isnt going to help her build a relationship back up with him with her going too the press :nono:

Exactly. This is only going to upset her sons more :fist:

y.winter 19-06-2016 11:46 AM

Parents can do awful lot of things to get custody and get the kids against the other when divorcing. This divorce sounds really nasty, so I wouldn't automatically bash the mother. It's too dirty to take side, I'll leave it to them and the judge.

Vanessa 19-06-2016 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by y.winter (Post 8737665)
Parents can do awful lot of things to get custody and get the kids against the other when divorcing. This divorce sounds really nasty, so I wouldn't automatically bash the mother. It's too dirty to take side, I'll leave it to them and the judge.

She's the one who got violent and is going to court for it. For me it rings alarm bells very loudly.

Vanessa 19-06-2016 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8737388)
..it's a sad read for sure..I don't think that having an 'advantaged' upbringing/life in terms of money, has been an advantage at all, it's probably been one of the biggest disadvantages in that it's possibly led to his friendships being ones that have revolved around his money rather than who he is../more shallow friendships etc...if he had not been spoilt with money and materialistic things, then his friendships would have been because of the person he was and he himself would have been in no doubt about that, so felt much more self-worth...


..one of the most loving things that we can do for our children/to make them feel loved is to be a clearly defined parent..a huge part of them growing is in choosing their friendships and learning from their friendships../the people who they will choose to keep in their lives..Marco has never learned that either I don't think..one of the most sad things of what his mum said is that she feels or fears as though 'there is no hope for him'...what he needs is a belief that whatever road of 'destruction' he's travelling on now, there is every hope for him and a happy outcome from the two people who should have and should have had a complete belief in him..his mum and dad...

Sounds like his dad spoiled him for overcompensating for not being there. Boys needed their father.

y.winter 19-06-2016 12:03 PM

I don't think the dad did a good job as well, especially as the one who meant to raise him properly leading him to some sort of self destruction. It's clearly ugly situation and he couldn't even have the sense to rise above it all. So I couldn't be bothered with the three of them tbh...

Vanessa 19-06-2016 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by y.winter (Post 8737690)
I don't think the dad did a good job as well, especially as the one who meant to raise him properly leading him to some sort of self destruction. It's clearly ugly situation and he couldn't even have the sense to rise above it all. So I couldn't be bothered with the three of them tbh...

It sounds like he wasn't there when he was needed.

hot2go 19-06-2016 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8737344)
I don't think a bad upbringing is an excuse. There's plenty of people who have been raised in worse circumstances that have turned out to be good people despite bad parenting.

Marco is old enough to realise his parents mistakes and not let them define him.

What a simplistic and idealistic view you have .....I think you're wrong myself...very...loads of kids from famous parents end up like Marco and often end up dead....I don't know who your favourite housemates are or what their parents are like but I do know there is a high percentage chance they will become exactly as narsassistic as he is......I wonder if you simplistic view will be applied to them too.

hot2go 19-06-2016 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8737388)
..it's a sad read for sure..I don't think that having an 'advantaged' upbringing/life in terms of money, has been an advantage at all, it's probably been one of the biggest disadvantages in that it's possibly led to his friendships being ones that have revolved around his money rather than who he is../more shallow friendships etc...if he had not been spoilt with money and materialistic things, then his friendships would have been because of the person he was and he himself would have been in no doubt about that, so felt much more self-worth...


..one of the most loving things that we can do for our children/to make them feel loved is to be a clearly defined parent..a huge part of them growing is in choosing their friendships and learning from their friendships../the people who they will choose to keep in their lives..Marco has never learned that either I don't think..one of the most sad things of what his mum said is that she feels or fears as though 'there is no hope for him'...what he needs is a belief that whatever road of 'destruction' he's travelling on now, there is every hope for him and a happy outcome from the two people who should have and should have had a complete belief in him..his mum and dad...

I completely agree with you ....

The boy is in trouble and the boy is in pain......it's so obvious....how that can be a reason to hate him and wish him harm or, as one person said, wish him dead.....that philosophy is so far off my radar it may as well be in outer space...

It's a credit to Andy and to Jackson that they both could see that when all the others failed to....tells me they are nice people

Vanessa 19-06-2016 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8737855)
I completely agree with you ....

The boy is in trouble and the boy is in pain......it's so obvious....how that can be a reason to hate him and wish him harm or, as one person said, wish him dead.....that philosophy is so far off my radar it may as well be in outer space...

It's a credit to Andy and to Jackson that they both could see that when all the others failed to....tells me they are nice people

:clap1:

Kazanne 19-06-2016 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8737855)
I completely agree with you ....

The boy is in trouble and the boy is in pain......it's so obvious....how that can be a reason to hate him and wish him harm or, as one person said, wish him dead.....that philosophy is so far off my radar it may as well be in outer space...

It's a credit to Andy and to Jackson that they both could see that when all the others failed to....tells me they are nice people

What a fantastic post hot2go, one reason I like Andy and Jackson they could see through the cracks,most of the others are two faced tossers if you ask me,pretending they liked him and rejoicing when he went,disgusting behaviour,and don't even get me started on Laura,she has more faces than Big Ben.Marco is a troubled soul and those who mock and want him to die need to give their sorry heads a wobble.

Glenn. 19-06-2016 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8737344)
I don't think a bad upbringing is an excuse. There's plenty of people who have been raised in worse circumstances that have turned out to be good people despite bad parenting.

Marco is old enough to realise his parents mistakes and not let them define him.

:clap1:

Vanessa 19-06-2016 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8737963)
What a fantastic post hot2go, one reason I like Andy and Jackson they could see through the cracks,most of the others are two faced tossers if you ask me,pretending they liked him and rejoicing when he went,disgusting behaviour,and don't even get me started on Laura,she has more faces than Big Ben.Marco is a troubled soul and those who mock and want him to die need to give their sorry heads a wobble.

:clap2:

fitz2k2 19-06-2016 04:18 PM

this is typical

hot2go 19-06-2016 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 8737969)
:clap1:

Nice to see you've still got the clap :laugh:

Glenn. 19-06-2016 04:24 PM

Slow clap for the comedian

Tom4784 19-06-2016 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8737836)
What a simplistic and idealistic view you have .....I think you're wrong myself...very...loads of kids from famous parents end up like Marco and often end up dead....I don't know who your favourite housemates are or what their parents are like but I do know there is a high percentage chance they will become exactly as narsassistic as he is......I wonder if you simplistic view will be applied to them too.

I'll only warn you once. don't attack people because of their favourites. Drop that **** right now.

My view isn't simplistic or idealistic. Having a bad childhood isn't an excuse for being a ****up in adult life. at some point you have to let go of that crap or let it consume you but it's not an excuse for acting like a twat, that's on his shoulders and no one else's.

He is no longer a child, he has his own mind and he can come to his own conclusions. You can't blame his upbringing for his actions.

Kazanne 19-06-2016 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitz2k2 (Post 8738081)
this is typical

Typical of what ?

hijaxers 19-06-2016 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clootie Dumpling (Post 8737583)
I feel very sorry for Mati and, while still despising his behaviour in the House, I feel sorry for him, too.

The monster in all of this is Marco Pierre White Snr, whose own behaviour and twisted concept of parental roles, as described in the DM article, come as no surprise and go a long way towards explaining why Marco Jnr is as he is.

This puts his constant attention-seeking and the need to touch everyone all the time into perspective. He craves love and reassurance, which he didn't get as a child, because he father was an unapproachable angry character, who belittled his mother and ignored his children.

Sounds like MP Senior is a bully who uses money to get his own way - I hope every bloody restaurant he owns closes through lack of custom - The only way he will be rewarded properly for his selfish disgusting pig behaviour.


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