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vesavius 22-06-2016 01:08 PM

Why is Hughie getting a free pass?
 
Seriously, this guy is made out of Teflon it seems.

He is one of those HMs that seem to be able to get away with being aggressive, snidey, and calling female HMs things like sluts, fat, and thick, before he has even met them.

And, yeah, I know he denied calling Lateysha fat, but going on his now established track record, I believe Nat over him. I have no doubt, personally, that he said it. I have no doubt he is a liar as well as everything else.


But, and I am no fan of hers as a person, Nat gets the grief for just repeating what he actually said. here's a tip Hughie, if you don't want people to repeat the crappy things you say, don't say them. :fist:

armand.kay 22-06-2016 01:22 PM

Well first of all Hughie admitted to calling her a slut and he apologised for it so all the information isn't quite there..

Hughie has more to him then just being aggressive like we've seen him both have fun and be really sweet. He's also proven to be quite reasonable in a few instances.

Hughie's aggression is also quite funny idk why it's just funny when he goes off on one. Housemates like Nikki also got away with their aggressive/bitchy behaviour because it was just amusing.

Also Hughie is only really aggressive when people attack him first I can't really think of an instance when he was the one to instigate the argument.

Lastly Hughie might just be human embodiment of God and can do no wrong.. Just a theory idk :shrug:

Kazanne 22-06-2016 01:25 PM

I like Huey and no way would I believe Natalie over him,I never heard him call anyone fat,I think Nat has a penchant for Chinese whispers

vesavius 22-06-2016 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8746371)
Well first of all Hughie admitted to calling her a slut and he apologised for it so all the information isn't quite there..

Only when his cover was blown.

He wouldn't have come clean unless forced, which is no sign of being a good guy at all.

vesavius 22-06-2016 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8746382)
I think Nat has a penchant for Chinese whispers

Based on..?

Mystic Mock 22-06-2016 01:28 PM

Everyone has first impression judgements of other people (some not so nice opinions) obviously Hughie shouldn't have called Lateysha a slag, but he isn't a bad person for making a judgement based on first impressions.

armand.kay 22-06-2016 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 8746384)
Only when his cover was blown.

He wouldn't have come clean unless forced, which is no sign of being a good guy at all.

Didn't really have much of a chance tbh seeing as Natalie ratted him out minutes after being in the house... He probably even forgot about saying it because I know most the viewers did.

armand.kay 22-06-2016 01:31 PM

The whole slut comment thing has been blown way out of proportion like people are probably just clinging on to it because it's the only example of Hughie being horrible and saying something uncalled for.

Withano 22-06-2016 01:40 PM

I dont remember her calling anybody a slut but the way Natalke talked about it, i assume it was when they saw lateyshas vt for the first time and hughie instantly recognised her as the one from the terrible mtv show. I doubt he said it maliciously, more jokey with the rest of the house as they all battered the strangers. Natalie probably took it out of context.

hot2go 22-06-2016 01:41 PM

When the others were shown the housemates VTs in week one, Jayne, Charlie and Ryan all agreed that Laura looked like she could be a slag and that she looked Slaggy ...
They all made assumptions about the housemates based on what little info they had.

And Lateysha did look like a slut with her side boobs hanging out ...Huey wasn't lying about that....even Laura and couple others said their first impression on entering the house was totally different to the one they now have having got to know her...

If you think champagne you'll drink champagne...if you dress like a slapper you'll look like a slapper.

Amy Jade 22-06-2016 01:57 PM

I totally agree with the OP

Natalie and Hughie are as argumentative as each other but she seems to be shouldering the blame every single time they clash...infact Hughie never gets the blame, even when Alex tried to stop Hughie and Jackson arguing Alex was heaped with blame even though Hughie was the clear aggressor.

He's absolutely awful and the worst one in there by a mile, he's literally irrelevant without somebody to clash with unless you like a fake as fook showmance. He's clearly not interested in Ryan but he'll be aware it'll get him airtime.

He only apologized to Lateysha because he was caught out, he called Natalie a 'lardy arse' apparently during their fight in the bedroom so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's called Lateysha fat too.

Once Natalie is gone and there is no clear scapegoat for people to blame for his aggression his true colours will be clear to people I hope.

reece(: 22-06-2016 01:59 PM

Charlie BB10?

Amy Jade 22-06-2016 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8746426)
Lateysha did look like a slut with her side boobs hanging out ...Huey wasn't lying about that

A bit of cleavage/side boob makes a girl a slut now? Have we gone back in time? :laugh:

Babayaro. 22-06-2016 02:03 PM

Because a lot of people can see that behind all of the shouting and the short temper, that he is a really nice guy and he is not malicious at all. Maybe that's why he's doing so well in online polls :shrug:

Amy Jade 22-06-2016 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 8746484)
Charlie BB10?

I hope his popularity is as fleeting as Charlie's was.

Niamh. 22-06-2016 02:04 PM

Honestly I think it's because he sounds funny when he argues but I'm not a fan at all, i think he's sneaky

Amy Jade 22-06-2016 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 8746496)
Because a lot of people can see that behind all of the shouting and the short temper, that he is a really nice guy and he is not malicious at all. Maybe that's why he's doing so well in online polls :shrug:

A really nice guy who calls people he's never met fat, trampy and slaggy on TV. He's totally Prince Charming.

Lostie! 22-06-2016 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8746480)
I totally agree with the OP

Natalie and Hughie are as argumentative as each other but she seems to be shouldering the blame every single time they clash...infact Hughie never gets the blame, even when Alex tried to stop Hughie and Jackson arguing Alex was heaped with blame even though Hughie was the clear aggressor.

He's absolutely awful and the worst one in there by a mile, he's literally irrelevant without somebody to clash with unless you like a fake as fook showmance. He's clearly not interested in Ryan but he'll be aware it'll get him airtime.

He only apologized to Lateysha because he was caught out, he called Natalie a 'lardy arse' apparently during their fight in the bedroom so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's called Lateysha fat too.

Once Natalie is gone and there is no clear scapegoat for him fans to chuck the blame on for his aggression his true colours will be clear to people I hope.

I'll speak for myself, thanks. I've never scapegoated Natalie, I fully believe that she's been in the wrong everytime they've clashed. I suggest you actually know what a scapegoat is before throwing the word around just because it's an easy term to pull out when you want to stick up for someone.

Natalie aggressively causes trouble, Hughie aggressively reacts, that's the big difference in their clashes. The same stands for the row with Jackson and Alex, he only kicked off because everyone was talking down to him just for making a suggestion that they didn't like.

Amy Jade 22-06-2016 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8746502)
Honestly I think it's because he sounds funny when he argues but I'm not a fan at all, i think he's sneaky

This is really sad but thank **** you see it! I always think of you, Lostie and Vicky as the voices of reason on here the last few series so if you see it I feel vindicated in feeling the way I do about him :laugh:

Mystic Mock 22-06-2016 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8746480)
I totally agree with the OP

Natalie and Hughie are as argumentative as each other but she seems to be shouldering the blame every single time they clash...infact Hughie never gets the blame, even when Alex tried to stop Hughie and Jackson arguing Alex was heaped with blame even though Hughie was the clear aggressor.

He's absolutely awful and the worst one in there by a mile, he's literally irrelevant without somebody to clash with unless you like a fake as fook showmance. He's clearly not interested in Ryan but he'll be aware it'll get him airtime.

He only apologized to Lateysha because he was caught out, he called Natalie a 'lardy arse' apparently during their fight in the bedroom so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's called Lateysha fat too.

Once Natalie is gone and there is no clear scapegoat for people to blame for his aggression his true colours will be clear to people I hope.

You mean when Alex joined in on the ganging up of Hughie?

Amy Jade 22-06-2016 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 8746509)
I'll speak for myself, thanks. I've never scapegoated Natalie, I fully believe that she's been in the wrong everytime they've clashed. I suggest you actually know what a scapegoat is before throwing the word around just because it's an easy term to pull out when you want to stick up for someone.

Natalie aggressively causes trouble, Hughie aggressively reacts, that's the big difference in their clashes. The same stands for the row with Jackson and Alex, he only kicked off because everyone was talking down to him just for making a suggestion that they didn't like.

I get it you think he's a victim, that's fine. I changed how I worded the last paragraph anyway :hee:

I'm also fully aware what a scapegoat is thank you.

hot2go 22-06-2016 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8746490)
A bit of cleavage/side boob makes a girl a slut now? Have we gone back in time? :laugh:

No, if only....doesn't make her a slut, it makes her look like one ....and nowt wrong with that if that's the look you wanna go for but don't then belly ache about it when people form the wrong impression of you because of it.
Lateysha created her own situation ...no one thought Georgina looked like a slut and the reason for that is because she wasn't dressed like a porn star.
It's very simple.

Greg! 22-06-2016 02:10 PM

Hughie hasn't shown bullying tendencies unlike Jackson, Alex, Chelsea and Natalie. People like him because he's not afraid to stand up for himself and he's funny when he does it

Mystic Mock 22-06-2016 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8746506)
A really nice guy who calls people he's never met fat, trampy and slaggy on TV. He's totally Prince Charming.

But Hughie's comments aren't much different to most people's first impressions of her on here on Launch Night.

Seriously everyone makes pre-judgements before getting to know people so why is Hughie being held at such a high standard?

Greg! 22-06-2016 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 8746496)
Because a lot of people can see that behind all of the shouting and the short temper, that he is a really nice guy and he is not malicious at all. Maybe that's why he's doing so well in online polls :shrug:

:clap1: absolutely spot on

Niamh. 22-06-2016 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8746520)
This is really sad but thank **** you see it! I always think of you, Lostie and Vicky as the voices of reason on here the last few series so if you see it I feel vindicated in feeling the way I do about him :laugh:

:laugh: aww thanks

Lostie! 22-06-2016 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8746530)
I get it you think he's a victim, that's fine. I changed how I worded the last paragraph anyway :hee:

I'm also fully aware what a scapegoat is thank you.

Actually I've never said I think he's a victim but you seem to be in the habit of putting words into the mouths of Hughie fans lately so feel free to carry that on if you like.

I do think he's been on the receiving end of stuff that makes me understand his losses of temper, though.

And if you truly think Natalie is being scapegoated then I beg to differ I'm afraid.

Amy Jade 22-06-2016 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8746537)
But Hughie's comments aren't much different to most people's first impressions of her on here on Launch Night.

Seriously everyone makes pre-judgements before getting to know people so why is Hughie being held at such a high standard?

Because he said it on TV. He's on the show for me to judge he put hI'm self forward to be judged, if I went and quoted people who said nasty things about people's weight and stuff on here I'd be breaking the rules for going off topic and having a go at fmers

armand.kay 22-06-2016 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8746480)
I totally agree with the OP

Natalie and Hughie are as argumentative as each other but she seems to be shouldering the blame every single time they clash...infact Hughie never gets the blame, even when Alex tried to stop Hughie and Jackson arguing Alex was heaped with blame even though Hughie was the clear aggressor.

He's absolutely awful and the worst one in there by a mile, he's literally irrelevant without somebody to clash with unless you like a fake as fook showmance. He's clearly not interested in Ryan but he'll be aware it'll get him airtime.

He only apologized to Lateysha because he was caught out, he called Natalie a 'lardy arse' apparently during their fight in the bedroom so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's called Lateysha fat too.

Once Natalie is gone and there is no clear scapegoat for him fans to chuck the blame on for his aggression his true colours will be clear to people I hope.

Hughie is probably more argumentative tbh its just that he is more likeable. We've seen a few sides to Hughie and it doesn't seem like all there is to him is drama and arguing. Also Hughie only got mad at Alex because overtime him or anyone tries to stop an argument they tell him to pipe down even tho the other party is being just as loud as him, I can see why he would be frustrated.

Not really irrelevant tho is he? he's had a fair amount of air time showing him interacting with the housemates and having some fun before the first time he flipped out. I mean is Natalie even at all relevant when she's not causing drama? I like her but she's very one dimensional Don't really get what you mean by the Ryan thing. Ryan seems to be the one pushing the relationship. its not even really a showmance they've kissed like twice and had one joke date. He doesn't spend all day in bed with Ryan, he's hardly talks about it and he hasn't even acknowledged it as a relationship so I don't really get what you mean by he's pushing the showmance for air time.. If anything Hughie seems hesitant to take this any further with Ryan.

Lol was he supposed to in like "yeah hi I'm hughie, btw lateysha I called you a slut in the first week sorry"? like what was he meant to do? Natalie snitched on him minutes after they all moved in. He didn't really get the chance to ever talk to lateysha.

Most Hughie fans have acknowledged that he can aggressive and no one really blames Natalie. He's only argues with her twice and has a lot more arguments with other people so that argument just isn't realistic in the slightest.

Amy Jade 22-06-2016 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8746531)
No, if only....doesn't make her a slut, it makes her look like one ....and nowt wrong with that if that's the look you wanna go for but don't then belly ache about it when people form the wrong impression of you because of it.
Lateysha created her own situation ...no one thought Georgina looked like a slut and the reason for that is because she wasn't dressed like a porn star.
It's very simple.

Lateysha didn't 'bellyach' over it. She handled it very well imo

Mystic Mock 22-06-2016 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8746544)
Because he said it on TV. He's on the show for me to judge he put hI'm self forward to be judged, if I went and quoted people who said nasty things about people's weight and stuff on here I'd be breaking the rules for going off topic and having a go at fmers

So you're telling me that you've never made a negative judgement of someone on first impressions? I don't mean to come off as confrontational but well done if you haven't because you're in a tiny minority if that's the case and it makes you a better person than me and Hughie and 95% of the planet.:joker:

hot2go 22-06-2016 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8746490)
A bit of cleavage/side boob makes a girl a slut now? Have we gone back in time? :laugh:

Ive no problem you being one of the posters who love to cut and paste peoples posts but why remove all the relevant information in my post that targets Laura in the same way and hi lights how Charlie, Huey and Jayne also accused someone of being a slag ?
Why make me look like I've just attacked Lateysha ? And why edit the full post that explains how I came to my conclusion ?
I wud appreciate you stop doing that...it looks like a deliberate attempt to edit me in a bad way on purpose.

armand.kay 22-06-2016 02:18 PM

To be fair as well Hughie was commenting on what he had seen of her on the valleys, and yeah what he said was wrong but it doesn't really make him a bad person? Like how black and white does your view on the world have to be to completely determine a person's character based on one throw aways comment they made :laugh:

hot2go 22-06-2016 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8746551)
Lateysha didn't 'bellyach' over it. She handled it very well imo

Would that be your full opinion or an edited version ?

Amy Jade 22-06-2016 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8746554)
So you're telling me that you've never made a negative judgement of someone on first impressions? I don't mean to come off as confrontational but well done if you haven't because you're in a tiny minority if that's the case and it makes you a better person than me and Hughie and 95% of the planet.:joker:

I may have in the past when I was like 14-16 but Hughie is about 22 isn't he? I am above calling people fat and slutty at 18 so I do think I'm a much better person than him, yes. :laugh:

Dollface 22-06-2016 02:20 PM

Armand :worship:

Mystic Mock 22-06-2016 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8746562)
I may have in the past when I was like 14-16 but Hughie is about 22 isn't he? I am above calling people fat and slutty at 18 so I do think I'm a much better person than him, yes. :laugh:

Not weight jibes, but initial personality traits when you meet people for the first time?

Or even negative impressions when speaking to people on the Internet for the first time?

Shaun 22-06-2016 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 8746387)
Based on..?

Perhaps the lies she's said about Jayne, accusing her of not really donating any money to charity, and her total unwillingness to hear anything that doesn't suit her agenda? Just a hunch.

Amy Jade 22-06-2016 02:23 PM

Armand.kay I do think he's irrelevant without somebody to clash with or the showmance. He's had no stand out moments...even when he argues it's just messy. I personally find Natalie funnier than him when they row because she has control of herself still.

Swings n round-a-bouts though :love:

Babayaro. 22-06-2016 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8746506)
A really nice guy who calls people he's never met fat, trampy and slaggy on TV. He's totally Prince Charming.

You see, now you're cherry picking. Fair enough, yeah, those type of comments are not very nice but i'm sure we're all guilty of making rash judgements on people we have never met before. But away from all of that, I really do believe that he is a genuine person and like what others have said, he only becomes aggressive when he is standing up for himself, unlike Natalie, who on many occasions has showed aggressive behaviour for no apparent reason.


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