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letmein 24-06-2016 11:17 AM

Corbyn Asked To Step Down In Wake Of Brexit Vote!
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36621777

Livia 24-06-2016 11:19 AM

He will have to go. Labour are unelectable with him at the helm. His campaigning for the Remain camp was wishy-washy and some of the largest swings to the Leave camp were in Labour's heartland.

Northern Monkey 24-06-2016 11:27 AM

I bet that interview did'nt help where he was actually honest on the fact that immigration was uncontrollable in the EU.

joeysteele 24-06-2016 11:27 AM

Labour would be unelectable to some no matter who led it,even if it was the Archangel Gabriel.
Now ignoring and leaving the prejudice against Labour aside.

I would in fact hope for a new leader however,and sadly for me, I believe one of the best assets the 'leave' side had in this referendum was in fact this man Corbyn.
I say that with great sadness too because I like the man.

Livia 24-06-2016 11:29 AM

Actually - ignoring the jibe - I would like to see a strong Labour. Having a weak opposition as we have now is dangerous for the country.

Northern Monkey 24-06-2016 11:30 AM

I would actually consider voting Labour without Corbyn.Depending on who the leader was and their stance on national security.I've always wanted to vote Labour but they've never had a leader that i had confidence in.One thing's for sure,I have never and will never vote Tory.

Tom4784 24-06-2016 11:48 AM

It would be a mistake. I despise Cameron with every fibre of my being but he is preferable to the other tory ***** that have a shot of taking his place and Corbyn is the best person for the job for Labour.

If Corbyn goes, I doubt I'll bother to vote next election because I'll just be completely apathetic to all the parties.

Plus the public always chooses the worst possible option anyway so it all feels very pointless.

Johnnyuk123 24-06-2016 11:56 AM

We need Corbyn to remain in charge of the Labour party so that UKIP can wipe the floor with them at the next general election.

Black Dagger 24-06-2016 11:58 AM

Do you actually believe the nonsense you spout or is it just a persona to keep you entertained?

Crimson Dynamo 24-06-2016 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8754139)
We need Corbyn to remain in charge of the Labour party so that UKIP can wipe the floor with them at the next general election.

Great day for Nigel Johnny

:thumbs:

Johnnyuk123 24-06-2016 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8754149)
Great day for Nigel Johnny

:thumbs:

Our Nige needs to be given a Knighthood for this tremendous result!:cheer2:

the truth 24-06-2016 12:18 PM

Corbyn failed. My concern is Labour will lose the lesson. this vote is a rejection of neo liberalism not socialism. Corbyn bottled it sadly

letmein 24-06-2016 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 8754203)
Corbyn failed. My concern is Labour will lose the lesson. this vote is a rejection of neo liberalism not socialism. Corbyn bottled it sadly

Honey, the days of Socialism are over.

the truth 24-06-2016 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letmein (Post 8754275)
Honey, the days of Socialism are over.

Untrue. Nationalizing fully or part out energy and industry will become inevitable

Jack. 24-06-2016 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8754193)
Our Nige needs to be given a Knighthood for this tremendous result!:cheer2:

What drugs have you taken. Nigel will never get a knighthood.

arista 24-06-2016 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8754139)
We need Corbyn to remain in charge of the Labour party so that UKIP can wipe the floor with them at the next general election.

Its OK Johnny
Corbyn is staying there

arista 24-06-2016 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack. (Post 8754384)
What drugs have you taken. Nigel will never get a knighthood.


It was on a Phone in
on Ch5HD AM Live

Jack. 24-06-2016 01:41 PM

I'm a labour supporter but don't believe that Corbyn is the right person to lead labour into the future, I've always been a big supporter of Andy Burnham myself!!

Johnnyuk123 24-06-2016 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8754396)
Its OK Johnny
Corbyn is staying there

That's great news arista. He must stay just like that laughing clown at Blackpool Pleasure Beach. It wouldn't be the same without either clown.

joeysteele 24-06-2016 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 8754322)
Untrue. Nationalizing fully or part out energy and industry will become inevitable

I agree'the truth'.

DemolitionRed 24-06-2016 08:17 PM

Farage is now redundant. He's got nothing left to campaign for.

Tata kipper :wavey:

Cherie 24-06-2016 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 8755577)
Farage is now redundant. He's got nothing left to campaign for.

Tata kipper :wavey:

I wouldn't be so sure about that

Johnnyuk123 24-06-2016 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack. (Post 8754384)
What drugs have you taken. Nigel will never get a knighthood.

My drug of choice is democracy.

user104658 24-06-2016 10:08 PM

It would probably be a good idea for him to go, and quickly; if one positive could come from this referrendum I actually think it's that it could basically trigger some "fresh slate" thinking amoungst voters, especially with Cameron stepping down. A new Labour leadership at the same time could see the battle lines completely redrawn and remove the assumption of automatic Tory majority.

It needs to be someone not quite so radical as Corbyn, but close enough to being Corbynesque as to not simply be yet another "Tory-lite" Labour leader.

Tom4784 24-06-2016 10:55 PM

Corbyn can resign when Farage fulfills his promise and resigns for losing the election like he said he would.

bots 24-06-2016 11:03 PM

i think the reality is that if he doesn't go, the tories will call a snapshot election with Boris in charge and go for a fresh new term and will win. Thats why this no confidence letter was created.

Corbyn had an opportunity to put himself at the center of the debates, make the arguments pro/against valid, brought the standard of the debate up. He didn't, he just hid in a corner. He is a completely irrelevant and ineffectual leader.

Northern Monkey 24-06-2016 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8756095)
I wouldn't be so sure about that

I don't think it'll be too long before Farage stands down as leader.He's said it himself abit ago.I don't think there's going to be much need for UKIP anymore.Farage has done what he set out to do.

Wizard. 24-06-2016 11:10 PM

Jeremy has to go! If Labour stands any chance of having a strong opposition to the Conservative government then this is their last chance or we will be ruled by Conservatives for many years to come.

Northern Monkey 24-06-2016 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley95 (Post 8756697)
Jeremy has to go! If Labour stands any chance of having a strong opposition to the Conservative government then this is their last chance or we will be ruled by Conservatives for many years to come.

Exactly.I would love Labour to get a decent leader and i would vote for them.

empire 25-06-2016 12:14 AM

even if they replaced him, the party will throw in the same old crap, like last time, and they can't blame corbyn for everything, when new labour had frittered away money on seneless wars, created the biggest migrant crisis ever, and ignored the wishes of its voters, the party is dead, because the percentage of labour voters who voted leave, where ignored, so why would they want to vote for a party that threw them on the side, what we need now is to call for an early election, and to get rid of mps who have taken us for granted.

microscope 25-06-2016 12:56 AM

Sadly Jeremy Corbyn is a weak Labour leader and doesn't come across that well I feel. He also spends too much time worrying about getting rid of Trident missiles so we can't defend ourselves which is rather pathetic. The whole point of having them is so you won't get attacked.

He would never get to be prime minister and has to go, so this Brexit comes just in time for his Exit.

Cherie 25-06-2016 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8756694)
I don't think it'll be too long before Farage stands down as leader.He's said it himself abit ago.I don't think there's going to be much need for UKIP anymore.Farage has done what he set out to do.

Do you think so, I think he is just gearing up! It wouldn't surprise me to see UKIP in some kind of coalition or even in power in 2020

Nedusa 25-06-2016 08:02 AM

Corbyn never truly believed his remain position but as party leader he had to follow the official party line. At a personal level he is a committed euroskeptic and he struggled to hide these feelings which probably explains why he fronted such a poor remain labour campaign.

Corbyn is a deeply committed passionate politician but unfortunately he neither committed or passionate about staying in the EU.

Northern Monkey 25-06-2016 11:12 AM

Corbyn just made a very good speech.I did'nt agree with everything but i did agree with most of it.It was the most passionate i've seen him for a long time.I think he's secretly very pleased by BREXIT.He makes me sad because there are a few key issues of his which i fundamentally disagree with him on and a couple of things he's done which i don't agree with but many things i agree with.If Labour got a leader who was a little more sensible on these things i could really get behind them.
My problem is that i'm not far left enough for current Labour but am also anti Tory Party.The Lib Dems have a very bad image at the moment because they have no conviction and will bend over for anyone.
I don't see a need for UKIP now and i think Farage did a cracking job but is not the man for the PM job.I could'nt get behind Carswell either and i don't like Diane James.That scouse fella is ok but not to run a country imo.
So UKIP are'nt for me now either.
I'm just hoping Labour can get their **** together for me and i can finally have a political party to get behind.

joeysteele 25-06-2016 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8757211)
Corbyn just made a very good speech.I did'nt agree with everything but i did agree with most of it.It was the most passionate i've seen him for a long time.I think he's secretly very pleased by BREXIT.He makes me sad because there are a few key issues of his which i fundamentally disagree with him on and a couple of things he's done which i don't agree with but many things i agree with.If Labour got a leader who was a little more sensible on these things i could really get behind them.
My problem is that i'm not far left enough for current Labour but am also anti Tory Party.The Lib Dems have a very bad image at the moment because they have no conviction and will bend over for anyone.
I don't see a need for UKIP now and i think Farage did a cracking job but is not the man for the PM job.I could'nt get behind Carswell either and i don't like Diane James.That scouse fella is ok but not to run a country imo.
So UKIP are'nt for me now either.
I'm just hoping Labour can get their **** together for me and i can finally have a political party to get behind.


It is amazing what serious calls for someone to go can do to them.

He knows he performed badly in the EU referendum, this was a much better speech,I agree.
I agree he seemed much freer as to passion and tone and more to the point content too.

empire 25-06-2016 07:16 PM

Corbyn has taken on the leadership of a party with very deep structural flaws that have not been addressed for the past three decades or more, he was in the same room when the labour party back in the 80s split four ways, and where left in the wilderness for some years, I think that is what he is trying to stop, another big split in the party, when they lost the last election, they said that they underestimated ukip, and have not learn't their lesson, with the brexit vote, when ukip where going in labour's heartlands, they where doing something that labour should of being doing last year, listening and expressing in what their voters want and fear, instead they took the arrogant root because of their pro-EU stance, there miles away from winning an election,

DemolitionRed 25-06-2016 07:52 PM

Labour needs to raise its game and take advantage of this situation.

joeysteele 25-06-2016 08:01 PM

I would now like a new leader of Labour.

The years ahead now after the EU vote call for some real passion and determination to keep the UK a success and much more to have a totally inclusive vision for all and not only some.

A Conservative MP has said on the news today, the deal may not even be done by 4 years time,that is why in the uncertainty of not knowing how long this will take, we need a new election after a new Conservative leader is elected to give that leader or another a mandate to carry things out before any deal is begun to be negotiated.

If this may take 4 years or more, the next election is May 2020, it would be ridiculous to be in negotiations and then have to fight an election at home.
Labour also need to be ready and sadly I do not think Corbyn is.

Johnnyuk123 25-06-2016 08:23 PM

Labour are dead in the water. They didn't listen to the people once again and sadly no matter who is in charge of that corrupt bunch of misfits they never will.

DemolitionRed 25-06-2016 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8758098)
Labour are dead in the water. They didn't listen to the people once again and sadly no matter who is in charge of that corrupt bunch of misfits they never will.

and your avatar says everything we need to know about kipper :hehe:


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