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Liberty4eva 25-06-2016 09:38 AM

I struggle to understand the Scots. Can someone help me out?
 
I am not from the UK and I struggle to understand the Scots.

Broadly speaking, what is their mentality? They seem to want to hang onto England only on the condition that England hangs onto Brussels.

I thought this was the land of Braveheart? :conf:

Wizard. 25-06-2016 09:41 AM

Well the whole country is run by the Scottish Nationalist Party which agender is to make Scotland independent so it's basically a Scottish UKIP but they want to be independent from the UK but I don't think Scottish people actually understand that. Good luck to them I suppose. I was born in Scotland so I hope they don't deport me back there :joker:

Cherie 25-06-2016 09:45 AM

Pack your bags and move there so you can have first hand experience?

Liberty4eva 25-06-2016 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8757113)
Pack your bags and move there so you can have first hand experience?

No, I think it would be easier to ask from the comfort of my home. :hee:

Crimson Dynamo 25-06-2016 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva (Post 8757106)
I am not from the UK and I struggle to understand the Scots.

Broadly speaking, what is their mentality? They seem to want to hang onto England only on the condition that England hangs onto Brussels.

I thought this was the land of Braveheart? :conf:

You are not "struggling to understand the scots"

You are generalising based on stereotype and misinformation.

Quite the leap

Liberty4eva 25-06-2016 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley95 (Post 8757110)
Well the whole country is run by the Scottish Nationalist Party which agender is to make Scotland independent so it's basically a Scottish UKIP but they want to be independent from the UK but I don't think Scottish people actually understand that. Good luck to them I suppose. I was born in Scotland so I hope they don't deport me back there :joker:

Thanks!

Cherie 25-06-2016 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva (Post 8757116)
No, I think it would be easier to ask from the comfort of my home. :hee:


Ever hear of travel broadens the mind? It works!

Livia 25-06-2016 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8757120)
You are not "struggling to understand the scots"

You are generalising based on stereotype and misinformation.

Quite the leap

You're all mean misers.

Or is that the Jews...?

Either way, one of us should have some savings.

Denver 25-06-2016 11:18 AM

It is long thought that it is similar to that of the North Korean language

Johnnyuk123 25-06-2016 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva (Post 8757106)
I am not from the UK and I struggle to understand the Scots.

Broadly speaking, what is their mentality? They seem to want to hang onto England only on the condition that England hangs onto Brussels.

I thought this was the land of Braveheart? :conf:

If it's anything like LT's then they are screwed.:joker:

arista 25-06-2016 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva (Post 8757106)
I am not from the UK and I struggle to understand the Scots.

Broadly speaking, what is their mentality? They seem to want to hang onto England only on the condition that England hangs onto Brussels.

I thought this was the land of Braveheart? :conf:


Subtitles on

arista 25-06-2016 11:24 AM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...22_468x351.jpg

This a Pure Scott
but Subtitles On
problem solved

Northern Monkey 25-06-2016 12:03 PM

Well they invented battered Mars bars so that's one good thing.Although i've never actually made it to the end of one.Almost throw up when i get half way through.
Some cracking whiskey too.Some of those island ones are really nice.

Cherie 25-06-2016 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8757221)
Subtitles on


:joker:

Beso 25-06-2016 12:31 PM

generally well hung.

user104658 25-06-2016 12:40 PM

55% of Scots are English people in disguise.

That's all you need to know :suspect:

Liberty4eva 25-06-2016 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8757363)
55% of Scots are English people in disguise.

That's all you need to know :suspect:

I actually understand this joke, to my surprise. :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 25-06-2016 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8757210)
You're all mean misers.

Or is that the Jews...?

Either way, one of us should have some savings.

actually that is a point

who are meaner

Scots, Jews or people from Yorkshire?

I would commission a poll but I heard they cost a lot of money

:suspect:

Livia 25-06-2016 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8757395)
actually that is a point

who are meaner

Scots, Jews or people from Yorkshire?

I would commission a poll but I heard they cost a lot of money

:suspect:

I'm not mean, I'm just careful.

Is that right that you once dropped a pound coin, bent down to pick it up and it hit you in the back of the neck?

Crimson Dynamo 25-06-2016 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8757402)
I'm not mean, I'm just careful.

Is that right that you once dropped a pound coin, bent down to pick it up and it hit you in the back of the neck?

:nono:

I would never drop any money

Livia 25-06-2016 01:06 PM

LOL...

Aaaaaaanyhoo... you're a defeated people who work for us.

:-)

Crimson Dynamo 25-06-2016 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8757405)
LOL...

Aaaaaaanyhoo... you're a defeated people who work for us.

:-)

the number of scots who voted for Leave was pretty much identical to the number of Scots who voted SNP at the last election!

Livia 25-06-2016 01:30 PM

You are a complicated people.

erinp5 25-06-2016 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8757277)
Well they invented battered Mars bars so that's one good thing.Although i've never actually made it to the end of one.Almost throw up when i get half way through.
Some cracking whiskey too.Some of those island ones are really nice.





Try this one
http://img.thewhiskyexchange.com/900/blend_cut22.jpg

Crimson Dynamo 25-06-2016 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8757277)
Well they invented battered Mars bars so that's one good thing.Although i've never actually made it to the end of one.Almost throw up when i get half way through.
Some cracking whiskey too.Some of those island ones are really nice.

Some cracking whiskey

:facepalm:

erinp5 25-06-2016 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8757280)
:joker:



Crimson Dynamo 25-06-2016 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erinp5 (Post 8757463)

:joker::joker::joker:

user104658 25-06-2016 02:38 PM

Can't believe no one's mentioned Scotland's crowning achievement tbh.

Irn Bru.

"what flavour is that? "

Its ****ing Irn Bru flavour.

Cherie 25-06-2016 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erinp5 (Post 8757463)



:laugh2:

kirklancaster 25-06-2016 02:55 PM

Liberty4Eva - This might explain and make things a little clear. (But probably not :laugh:)

1. Int. Country Pub: Snug - Night

Nigel Farage and Nicola Sturgeon are sitting at a table sharing a bottle of wine.

NIGEL
(To Nicola)
Nicola, why do you want to leave the UK? It's just
causing trouble by holding another Scottish Independance Referendum.

NICOLA
(Frostily)
Because you English and Welsh have forced we Scots
to exit the Eu, when we want to remain.

NIGEL
(With bemusement)
But that's Democracy Nicola...And anyway, 39% of Scots
voted to leave.

NICOLA
(With rising annoyance)
Bugger Democracy. Why should you sassenachs dictate
what we do. Our future is with the EU, not the UK


NIGEL
So if you win a Scottish Independance Referendum,
you are going to take Scotland into the EU?

NICOLA
Too bloody true I am

NIGEL
(Shakes head)
But you'll hold an EU Referendum first, surely?

NICOLA
Aye, but I know we'll win that.

NIGEL
But not all Scots will vote to to enter the EU.
I mean....at least 39% won't, because they
voted to leave the EU in our Referendum.

NICOLA
What's your point?

NIGEL
(Nervous laugh)
Well.... Then you'll be forcing 39% of Scots to
be in the EU when they don't want to be.

NICOLA
Well that'll be their tough bloody luck. They'll
have to accept the result of the Referendum.
and go with the majority
(Glares at him)
That's bloody Democracy.

Nigel shrugs.

jaxie 25-06-2016 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8757535)
Liberty4Eva - This might explain and make things a little clear. (But probably not :laugh:)

1. Int. Country Pub: Snug - Night

Nigel Farage and Nicola Sturgeon are sitting at a table sharing a bottle of wine.

NIGEL
(To Nicola)
Nicola, why do you want to leave the UK? It's just
causing trouble by holding another Scottish Independance Referendum.

NICOLA
(Frostily)
Because you English and Welsh have forced we Scots
to exit the Eu, when we want to remain.

NIGEL
(With bemusement)
But that's Democracy Nicola...And anyway, 39% of Scots
voted to leave.

NICOLA
(With rising annoyance)
Bugger Democracy. Why should you sassenachs dictate
what we do. Our future is with the EU, not the UK


NIGEL
So if you win a Scottish Independance Referendum,
you are going to take Scotland into the EU?

NICOLA
Too bloody true I am

NIGEL
(Shakes head)
But you'll hold an EU Referendum first, surely?

NICOLA
Aye, but I know we'll win that.

NIGEL
But not all Scots will vote to to enter the EU.
I mean....at least 39% won't, because they
voted to leave the EU in our Referendum.

NICOLA
What's your point?

NIGEL
(Nervous laugh)
Well.... Then you'll be forcing 39% of Scots to
be in the EU when they don't want to be.

NICOLA
Well that'll be their tough bloody luck. They'll
have to accept the result of the Referendum.
and go with the majority
(Glares at him)
That's bloody Democracy.

Nigel shrugs.

:laugh:

user104658 25-06-2016 04:07 PM

Kirk aptly demonstrating that in his opinion, Scotland is simply a region of England.

kirklancaster 25-06-2016 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8757664)
Kirk aptly demonstrating that in his opinion, Scotland is simply a region of England.

How do you educe that? Scotland is a part of the United Kingdom.

My little satirical sketch demonstrates nothing more than the fact that Nicola Sturgeon is one huge hypocrite. It is a satirical sketch but like all satire uses humour to expose truth.

How, and, where, does it demonstrate that I regard Scotland a 'region of England'?

the truth 25-06-2016 04:15 PM

Well its all a tad confusing, in general it seems they think they can do good deals with the EU and prefer to deal with them than westminster. theyre still furious about thatchers decimation of the industries. the scots have their own laws , print their own money and have a pretty big bank too....theyre much wealthier than northern ireland or wales and have more land oil and resources. they also have a world class education system and tend to be knowledgeable people many with leanings to communist sympathies... so taking all that into acocunt, they have a better chance of going it alone. quite how they can cook a good eu deal I dont know. they seem to think england is too controlled by the idiot tabloids and the elite 1%. they have a few billion worth of oil at their fingertips but it is diminishing. if they leave, theyd need to join the euro, put up borders, sign up to open movement of people and all the other 60,000 pages of laws and rules. I think sturgeon has blown it a bit with her ill timed call for another referendum tbh. the next step for the scots is to be in charge of all their own tax afdairs and withdraw from the barnett formula and fuund their own country. the uk government has to tread careful thought, they have been so london ccentric for so long they may get a kick in the privates even harder than we gave the EU. people everywhere are sick of the elite in their little back scratching bubble creating an unfair society where the rich take over everything

Johnnyuk123 25-06-2016 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8757535)
Liberty4Eva - This might explain and make things a little clear. (But probably not :laugh:)

1. Int. Country Pub: Snug - Night

Nigel Farage and Nicola Sturgeon are sitting at a table sharing a bottle of wine.

NIGEL
(To Nicola)
Nicola, why do you want to leave the UK? It's just
causing trouble by holding another Scottish Independance Referendum.

NICOLA
(Frostily)
Because you English and Welsh have forced we Scots
to exit the Eu, when we want to remain.

NIGEL
(With bemusement)
But that's Democracy Nicola...And anyway, 39% of Scots
voted to leave.

NICOLA
(With rising annoyance)
Bugger Democracy. Why should you sassenachs dictate
what we do. Our future is with the EU, not the UK


NIGEL
So if you win a Scottish Independance Referendum,
you are going to take Scotland into the EU?

NICOLA
Too bloody true I am

NIGEL
(Shakes head)
But you'll hold an EU Referendum first, surely?

NICOLA
Aye, but I know we'll win that.

NIGEL
But not all Scots will vote to to enter the EU.
I mean....at least 39% won't, because they
voted to leave the EU in our Referendum.

NICOLA
What's your point?

NIGEL
(Nervous laugh)
Well.... Then you'll be forcing 39% of Scots to
be in the EU when they don't want to be.

NICOLA
Well that'll be their tough bloody luck. They'll
have to accept the result of the Referendum.
and go with the majority
(Glares at him)
That's bloody Democracy.

Nigel shrugs.



:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:
This odious little vindictive hate filled dwarf will not rest until she gets what SHE wants... and she wants to ruin Scotland.:nono:

user104658 25-06-2016 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8757535)

NICOLA
(Frostily)
Because you English and Welsh have forced we Scots
to exit the Eu, when we want to remain.

NIGEL
(With bemusement)
But that's Democracy Nicola...And anyway, 39% of Scots
voted to leave.


Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8757681)
How do you educe that? Scotland is a part of the United Kingdom.

My little satirical sketch demonstrates nothing more than the fact that Nicola Sturgeon is one huge hypocrite. It is a satirical sketch but like all satire uses humour to expose truth.

How, and, where, does it demonstrate that I regard Scotland a 'region of England'?

In your example it is only democracy if you don't consider the Scottish vote as a separate entity; it is "democracy" across the UK. As a separate consideration, 38% of Scots voted to leave vs a clear majority of 62% voting to stay, and yet Scotland is out anyway, which is a clear failure of democracy (for Scotland) just as having a Tory government is a failure for Scotland when a clear majority does not want one.

Taking Scotland as a separate entity, all your actually doing is demonstrating perfectly how being part of the UK represents the OPPOSITE of "good democracy" for Scotland. We vote, our desires are clear, we get stuck with the thing that we didn't want anyway. English decisions will demonstrably always over-ride Scottish desires. Scotland does not have democracy. The only way for Scotland to have democracy, as an individual nation, is to be separate from England.

user104658 25-06-2016 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8757696)
:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:
This odious little vindictive hate filled dwarf will not rest until she gets what SHE wants... and she wants to ruin Scotland.:nono:

It's too late to ruin Scotland, Scotland was decimated by Thatcher and will be unfixable for as long as there are Tory/Tory-lite-labour governments ruling the roost.

kirklancaster 25-06-2016 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8757698)
In your example it is only democracy if you don't consider the Scottish vote as a separate entity; it is "democracy" across the UK. As a separate consideration, 38% of Scots voted to leave vs a clear majority of 62% voting to stay, and yet Scotland is out anyway, which is a clear failure of democracy (for Scotland) just as having a Tory government is a failure for Scotland when a clear majority does not want one.

Taking Scotland as a separate entity, all your actually doing is demonstrating perfectly how being part of the UK represents the OPPOSITE of "good democracy" for Scotland. We vote, our desires are clear, we get stuck with the thing that we didn't want anyway. English decisions will demonstrably always over-ride Scottish desires. Scotland does not have democracy. The only way for Scotland to have democracy, as an individual nation, is to be separate from England.

I think that you are greatly confused:

The 'Scottish vote' is NOT a 'seperate entity', and here's why:

Because Scotland is still part of the United Kingdom, then the vote of any Scottish people in The UK EU Referendum, constitutes a vote by BRITISH subjects - the fact that they are Scottish and live in Scotland is irrelevant in this context, other than for simple identification purposes.

Being British subjects, Scottish people are constitutionally bound - in a Democracy - to accept the majority concensus in any election or referendum, exactly as English, Welsh and Northern Irish people have to.

Now, IF Scotland was ALREADY an INDEPENDENT COUNTRY, and 62% of Scottish people voted to become a member of the EU in a Scottish EU Referendum, against 38% of Scottish people who voted to stay out of the EU, then those 38% would be constitionally bound - in a Democracy - to accept the majority concensus.

Which is EXACTLY what the point of my satire is.

In a seperate Scotland which boasted Democracy, the minority in any official election or referendum, are going to be compelled to accept the majority concensus.

So Nicola Sturgeon, as Prime Minister of an independent Scotland, would be FORCING upon the MINORITY, or LOSING voters, the WILL of the MAJORITY, or WINNING voters - which is EXACTLY what the silly cow is whining about now.

As to your grouse about; "We vote, our desires are clear, we get stuck with the thing that we didn't want anyway." this is because you are a BRITISH subject living in a DEMOCRACY - the same as the rest of us English, Northern Irish, and Welsh subjects. Some of us, are often among the minority in elections, but we are bound to accept such a fact. I did not vote for Cameron and the Tories for instance, nor did I ever vote to join the Common Market/EU.

I WANT Scotland to hold another Independence Referendum, and if she does, and the result is that she gains her independence, then all well and good. I have no arguments.

Until then, however, you and the rest of Scotland are NOT independent, and as such, you are bound by the same laws and regulations as the rest of us.

Johnnyuk123 25-06-2016 05:06 PM

Put that wall up now before LT gets across the border! :fist:
Release the hounds!:dog::dog::dog::dog::dog::dog::dog::dog:

user104658 25-06-2016 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8757535)

NICOLA
(Frostily)
Because you English and Welsh have forced we Scots
to exit the Eu, when we want to remain.

NIGEL
(With bemusement)
But that's Democracy Nicola...And anyway, 39% of Scots
voted to leave.

Nigel shrugs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8757664)
Kirk aptly demonstrating that in his opinion, Scotland is simply a region of England.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8757761)
I think that you are greatly confused:

The 'Scottish vote' is NOT a 'seperate entity', and here's why:

Because Scotland is still part of the United Kingdom, then the vote of any Scottish people in The UK EU Referendum, constitutes a vote by BRITISH subjects - the fact that they are Scottish and live in Scotland is irrelevant in this context, other than for simple identification purposes.

Being British subjects, Scottish people are constitutionally bound - in a Democracy - to accept the majority concensus in any election or referendum, exactly as English, Welsh and Northern Irish people have to.

Now, IF Scotland was ALREADY an INDEPENDENT COUNTRY, and 62% of Scottish people voted to become a member of the EU in a Scottish EU Referendum, against 38% of Scottish people who voted to stay out of the EU, then those 38% would be constitionally bound - in a Democracy - to accept the majority concensus.

Which is EXACTLY what the point of my satire is.

In a seperate Scotland which boasted Democracy, the minority in any official election or referendum, are going to be compelled to accept the majority concensus.

So Nicola Sturgeon, as Prime Minister of an independent Scotland, would be FORCING upon the MINORITY, or LOSING voters, the WILL of the MAJORITY, or WINNING voters - which is EXACTLY what the silly cow is whining about now.

As to your grouse about; "We vote, our desires are clear, we get stuck with the thing that we didn't want anyway." this is because you are a BRITISH subject living in a DEMOCRACY - the same as the rest of us English, Northern Irish, and Welsh subjects. Some of us, are often among the minority in elections, but we are bound to accept such a fact. I did not vote for Cameron and the Tories for instance, nor did I ever vote to join the Common Market/EU.

I WANT Scotland to hold another Independence Referendum, and if she does, and the result is that she gains her independence, then all well and good. I have no arguments.

Until then, however, you and the rest of Scotland are NOT independent, and as such, you are bound by the same laws and regulations as the rest of us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8757664)
Kirk aptly demonstrating that in his opinion, Scotland is simply a region of England.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8757761)
The 'Scottish vote' is NOT a 'seperate entity'


Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8757664)
Kirk aptly demonstrating that in his opinion, Scotland is simply a region of England.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8757761)
The 'Scottish vote' is NOT a 'seperate entity'

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8757664)
Kirk aptly demonstrating that in his opinion, Scotland is simply a region of England.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8757761)
How do you educe that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8757761)
The 'Scottish vote' is NOT a 'seperate entity'

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8757664)
Kirk. Demonstrating. Opinion. Scotland is simply a region of England.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8757761)
How educe dat doe?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8757761)
The 'Scottish vote' is NOT a 'seperate entity'

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8757761)
The 'Scottish vote' is NOT a 'seperate entity'


FFS Kirk you're breaking TiBB with your circular ****, you could just have admitted that I was right;

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8757664)
Kirk aptly demonstrating that in his opinion, Scotland is simply a region of England.

in the first place :hehe:


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