Racism on the rise in the UK following EU Referendum
 

And nobody was surprised, we officially are 'little britain' now.

This feeling that other nationalities are taking over our classrooms/jobs/country has been on the simmer for quite a few years now. Sooner or later it had to come to the boil and probably for the first time in a long while, because their vote actually acheived what they wanted, some people are voicing their opinions.

And how will this change?... as stated almost immediately immigration will carry on so what was the point if that's all anyone was bothered about?

A shock to the system.

..sadly, racism always had to there in the first place..it couldn't 'rise' from nothing..it could only become more vocal...

I think some people almost feel they have carte blanche now to voice it, scary times

There is racism all over the world and sadly there have always been bigots who are ignorant and vocal about it. However that has nothing to do with the EU referendum, and while it wasn't my main personal motivation to vote leave, it is not wrong to be concerned about a lack of control over your own borders. This is something that most countries throughout the world have. This is not racist.

Jaxie just a quick question how will you feel if we remain in the single market and the associated continued free movement continues?

If people had been allowed to voice their concerns about immigration before, without everyone to the left of centre accusing them of racism and xenophobia, maybe the picture would have been different. The danger with ignoring people's concerns is that those concerns grow into problems.

And really, I'm tired of the suggestion that we are a ridiculously racist country when we are not. I hope this is a lesson learned. You have to listen to people because if you keep them down by calling them names, it just blows the situation out of all proportion.

Its a Blip

You Are Most Wise Ammi

I heard an interesting aside yesterday. There is an historic geographical reason why we have an issue with immigration. We are an island! We have never in our history had people able to freely cross our borders. Mainland europe, being land connected, have always had people crossing their borders, so they just don't see anything wrong with it, because its always been that way. Its a fundamental difference borne from geographical history.

Interesting point to ponder there BOTS.

The British had no problem crossing others borders themselves though :hee:

:clap1::clap1::clap1:Well said Livia.

There are racist incidents reported every week and always have been and always will be.I think this article is quite misleading trying to blame it on the fact that we've left the EU.If you read it they've just found one racist incident and conflated it with the referendum to make a story.There always has been racism and always will be in every country.Hell i've faced it from gangs of asians and blacks on multiple occasions in the past.

Helpful.

We crossed lots of borders generations ago... and we're still being battered with that tired old stick.

Oh lighten up Livia

Thank goodness our actions didn't have any knock-on effect throughout global history :worry: that would have been rly rly bad.

Some of those knock-on effects have been positive. And we weren't the only country to colonise, although we are, I think, the only one still beating itself up for it. And to drag this back on topic - because colonialism was never part of this conversation till Cherie dropped it in - I would wager that the vast majority of people whose areas, whose culture has suffer most from immigration made not a penny piece from colonialism.

You know the Normans virtually wiped out Anglo-Saxon culture, right? They just stormed in here and took everything. Maybe we could have someone pop on to a French forum and remind them of that.

Oh come on, this is a huge leap. It's just coincidence? The amount of casual racism I've heard since Friday is staggering, from people I'd never have expected it from. I've had a previously perfectly nice old gentleman start ranting about a black customer that it's because of "these Islam extremists" that Brexit is a good thing, we can "get rid of all that lot" finally. The other customer is a Christian from Africa... And genuinely one of our most laid back and friendly customers.

Just coincidence, I think not. The attitudes are clearly not new, they've been festering away in these people's grubby little heads all along, they just now feel like they have permission to pour their filth all over the streets.

As always though I'm quite happy with that. Makes it easier to know how to react to people when they're openly being scum rather than hiding it away.

You want light, try chat and games.

Oh come on just admit you take tongue in cheek from some members in SD more than others :laugh:

I don't think it's "on the rise", it's always been there - but now people feel they have more of a right to air their racist views.

I doubt the fact that we've voted out the EU would make anyone suddenly become a racist - you've either always have been one and just not voiced it until now, or you aren't one. Sadly most racist groups like Britain First etc were on the leave side, so leave winning will just give them more of a platform to incite their hatred.

That's not their tongues...

:omgno: :hee:

How dare you.

As you say though.Brexit did'nt make these people racist.They almost certainly already were and would have been without Brexit.I don't think the referendum made people racist so finding a racist incident and titling it 'Racism on the rise in UK following EU referendum' is blatent propaganda to get people to read.Normal tolerant people aren't turning racist because we had a referendum.These people already existed long before.

Open free-range racism on the rise should be just as concerning, though. It starts with people feeling bolstered in saying whatever they want, leads to further dehumanisation, and that inevitably leads to violence. It's a very slippery slope and tbh "Brexit" supporters should be as keen as everyone else (if not moreso) to stamp it out quickly... It's a strong indicator to the world that the Brexit result is borne of xenophobia and isolationism and for a country that is soon going to be scrabbling for "new trade deals", that dent in international perception is a major problem.

Looks like the worm has turned.

What worm? Robbie the Racism worm? Are you suggesting that this is a good thing?

Perhaps it is not so much on the rise but about to come out into the open more.
Racists have very small minds so I can see how they think a vote for Brexit makes it ok to air their true feelings....it needs to be stamped out, harshly.:fist:

You mean tongue in arse cheek:laugh:

We are all racist to a point no matter how much you say you are not.

What race are polish people? I saw there was an incident yesterday when someone put up signs telling polish people to go home. Is that racist?

Brexit supporters in the main probably are just as keen to stamp it out.There are racist people who will obviously jump on the referendum to vent their views but that does'nt represent all or even most of the leave side.
I don't think the Brexit result is 'borne of xenophobia and isolationism'.There will obviously be elements who voted for it for those reasons but those elements are a minority.
Having the ability to decide who you want to enter your borders is not xenophobic and nobody is saying we will be isolated(well apart from remain scaremongerers of course).
I also don't think that believing that a country's infrastructure can only take so much and there has to be an upper limit somewhere is xenophobic.No government has been able to build enough housing and just piling in more and more people only takes that situation further out of reach.Mass uncontrollable immigration just adds unnecessary pressure and is not the answer.That is not xenophobic rhetoric it's just the truth.Brexit makes controlling the numbers more possible than it was.Atleast now there is'nt a whole continent with free reign to come in with us having no say of who or how many.

Racism is all around us, there are people that will see the eu vote as a green light to get mouthy about race but if you look at the bigger picture nothing will really change.

The crucial distinction to make is between hating another race and not wanting them to take over your country.

The irony is that a lot of the people who come here actually hate us.

I also notice that a lot of these "anti-racists" say that they hate living in a racist britain and want to move to canada or australia. Why is it that they never want to move to pakistan?:shrug:

Did you see the "anti-fascists" protesting yesterday. They were protesting about a fair and open democratic referendum. The very definition of fascism.

I take no notice tbh.

This for me.

I don't think, and hope not, that the vast majority of the UK is racist,however there are elements that and events such as this EU referendum, that have helped bring more unacceptable terminology to the front.
Some have gone along with it unfortunately.

None of this is new. The majority of people in this country have always had these views. It just seems that the little student snowflakes, who are protected by their little liberal echo chambers in universities, have never been exposed to it before.

I told you that a majority of people feel this way and you didn't listen. This is a democracy and the majority win.

Tough titties.