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Yaki da 27-06-2016 08:46 PM

So Evelyn slept with a married man?
 
Takes off her clothes to make herself seem more interesting.

Cheats with married men.

Maybe, just maybe, Georgina doesn't like people who do this sort of thing. You know, because in the real world cheating with a married man is a fair bit worse than calling someone a "Stupid cow"

Lostie! 27-06-2016 08:49 PM

And somehow she's still more likeable than lunatic Georgina. Go figure.

MrWong 27-06-2016 08:51 PM

I hope Evelyn taking her clothes isn't too distressing for you. Georgina said she would do the same if she had Evelyn's figure.

However would your 19th century take on life cope if she did?

Evelyn said it on her VT i think. Not sure of the circumstances.

Yaki da 27-06-2016 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 8763772)
And somehow she's still more likeable than lunatic Georgina. Go figure.

Alternatively... It doesn't matter how despicable a person you seem to be on the outside to the viewers. Whereas to someone like Georgina who hears about these things it does matter and leads to her distrusting a person like Evelyn.

Can we acknowledge that maybe, just maybe, georgina's dislike of Evelyn is based on her being the sort of person that does that and that is a far more legitimate reason to dislike someone than a someone saying "Stupid cow"

Yaki da 27-06-2016 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 8763780)
I hope Evelyn taking her clothes isn't too distressing for you. Georgina said she would do the same if she had Evelyn's figure.

However would your 19th century take on life cope if she did?

Evelyn said it on her VT i think. Not sure of the circumstances.

Oh, she boasts about it to get on television shows. Can't imagine why someone like Georgina would think poorly of someone like that at all.

Tom4784 27-06-2016 08:52 PM

Yet nothing is said about Marco for cheating IN THE HOUSE?

Slamming Jayne for wearing a bikini in the bath yet you don't bat an eyelid at Alex and hating on Evelyn for her past while not caring about Marco's actions IN the house.

I'm sensing a pattern here, Yaki.

MrWong 27-06-2016 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8763784)
Alternatively... It doesn't matter how despicable a person you seem to be on the outside to the viewers. Whereas to someone like Georgina who hears about these things it does matter and leads to her distrusting a person like Evelyn.

Can we acknowledge that maybe, just maybe, georgina's dislike of Evelyn is based on her being the sort of person that does that and that is a far more legitimate reason to dislike someone than a someone saying "Stupid cow"

No it doesn't as she was distrustful of Evelyn on the very first night without even knowing her.

She's jealous of Evelyn and admitted as much on yesterday's show.

Yaki da 27-06-2016 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8763804)
Yet nothing is said about Marco for cheating IN THE HOUSE?

He was voted out first chance we got. And Georgina was critical of the morals of both Laura and Marco.

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Slamming Jayne for wearing a bikini in the bath yet you don't bat an eyelid at Alex
Women and men are different. And you seriously saying that recognizing this fact is somehow worse than cheating with a married man?


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and hating on Evelyn for her past while not caring about Marco's actions IN the house.

I'm sensing a pattern here, Yaki.
I couldn't stand Marco and nor could Georgina.

waylander1973 27-06-2016 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8763757)
Takes off her clothes to make herself seem more interesting.

Cheats with married men.

Maybe, just maybe, Georgina doesn't like people who do this sort of thing. You know, because in the real world cheating with a married man is a fair bit worse than calling someone a "Stupid cow"

Actually it was Laura that slept with a married man not evelyn, it came out during a task last week.

rionablue 27-06-2016 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8763757)
Takes off her clothes to make herself seem more interesting.

Cheats with married men.

Maybe, just maybe, Georgina doesn't like people who do this sort of thing. You know, because in the real world cheating with a married man is a fair bit worse than calling someone a "Stupid cow"

FFS how many previous BB girls slept with married men and don't get me started on the so called Celebrities. Georgina is a jealous bitch. And Evelyn is doing a good job in making herself look more interesting her popularity has been soaring here recently

Jamie89 27-06-2016 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8763784)
Alternatively... It doesn't matter how despicable a person you seem to be on the outside to the viewers. Whereas to someone like Georgina who hears about these things it does matter and leads to her distrusting a person like Evelyn.

Can we acknowledge that maybe, just maybe, georgina's dislike of Evelyn is based on her being the sort of person that does that and that is a far more legitimate reason to dislike someone than a someone saying "Stupid cow"

I don't think anyone dislikes Georgina just for saying 'stupid cow'. It's her general off-putting personality and attitude that's the problem.

And do we even know the circumstances of Evelyn's relationship with the married man?

Yaki da 27-06-2016 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 8763809)
No it doesn't as she was distrustful of Evelyn on the very first night without even knowing her.

What evidence is there of this?

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She's jealous of Evelyn and admitted as much on yesterday's show.
Maybe so. It's also now a fact that she knows Evelyn has cheated with a married man. Why does that fact about Evelyn bother people less than somebody saying "Stupid cow"?

Do you not think it possible Georgina dislikes people like Emma because she thinks she's fake. That she disliked Marco because she thought he was a degenerate. And that she dislikes people like Evelyn and probably Laura for the way they jsut throw themselves at men regardless of the circumstances?

Maybe viewers don't care about what happened before the house, but Georgina lives with these people and is making judgements based on everything she knows about them. And she knows Evelyn is the type of person who cheats with married men, and will take all of her clothes off just to get a bit of attention for herself.

MrWong 27-06-2016 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8763797)
Oh, she boasts about it to get on television shows. Can't imagine why someone like Georgina would think poorly of someone like that at all.

It's as hard to fathom as your support for a loose woman!! (by 19th century standards)

Looks like she just got finger blasted too..... On a TV show!! :omgno:

Yaki da 27-06-2016 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 8763856)
I don't think anyone dislikes Georgina just for saying 'stupid cow'. It's her general off-putting personality and attitude that's the problem.

And do we even know the circumstances of Evelyn's relationship with the married man?

You don't know the circumstances of anything entirely. But you do know Georgina made a point of Evelyn going with a married man.

Apparently somebody being a moody cow offends some people here more than the stuff people like Evelyn or Jayne have done in their lives, which might just explain why some in the house have such a negative attitude towards them.

MrWong 27-06-2016 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8763859)
What
evidence is there of this?

Maybe so. It's also now a fact that she knows Evelyn has cheated with a married man. Why does that fact about Evelyn bother people less than somebody saying "Stupid cow"?

Do you not think it possible Georgina dislikes people like Emma because she thinks she's fake. That she disliked Marco because she thought he was a degenerate. And that she dislikes people like Evelyn and probably Laura for the way they jsut throw themselves at men regardless of the circumstances?

Maybe viewers don't care about what happened before the house, but Georgina lives with these people and is making judgements based on everything she knows about them. And she knows Evelyn is the type of person who cheats with married men, and will take all of her clothes off just to get a bit of attention for herself.

Do a search with 'Georgina'. Read the threads in the first week. The thread titles should give you a clue.

Dollface 27-06-2016 09:02 PM

Did Evelyn know this man was married before sleeping with him? If not, she did nothing wrong

Yaki da 27-06-2016 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 8763882)
Do a search with 'Georgina'. Read the threads in the first week. The thread titles should give you a clue.

Let's say she was distrustful of her on the first night. And then gained info that she boasted about cheating with a married man. Do you not think that might not be proof enough that Evelyn is indeed a bit of a bitch?

Jamie89 27-06-2016 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8763880)
You don't know the circumstances of anything entirely. But you do know Georgina made a point of Evelyn going with a married man.

Apparently somebody being a moody cow offends some people here more than the stuff people like Evelyn or Jayne have done in their lives, which might just explain why some in the house have such a negative attitude towards them.

Well I don't need to know the details in their entirety... but some details past a headline would be good before making a judgement, yes.

waylander1973 27-06-2016 09:04 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzrUI9lLMGU

Here's the link - tree of sin task.

Yaki da 27-06-2016 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 8763893)
Well I don't need to know the details in their entirety... but some details past a headline would be good before making a judgement, yes.

Unfortunately we don't know any more than this. But it stands to reason Georgina might think there's something very off about Evelyn because she has cheated with a married man.

But apparently the only immorality people won't stand for today is having old fashioned views and thinking that people who behave in such a manner are not to be trusted, and not really worthy of being liked. That would be judgemental. And we mustn't be that.

Vicky. 27-06-2016 09:05 PM

Seems like good old fashioned jealousy to me tbh. Along with not trusting Jackson. this whole, I trust you but don't trust her stuff is utter bollocks. If you actually trusted your blo9ke it wouldn't matter how much you didn't trust someone who was...doing his makeup. You would know he wouldn't go there.

Jamie89 27-06-2016 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8763912)
Unfortunately we don't know any more than this. But it stands to reason Georgina might think there's something very off about Evelyn because she has cheated with a married man.

But apparently the only immorality people won't stand for today is having old fashioned views and thinking that people who behave in such a manner are not to be trusted, and not really worthy of being liked.

To be honest, whatever the situation was, if Evelyn was single then I'd put the moral blame on the married man anyway, I wouldn't put it on Evelyn

You say 'she has cheated', but technically she hasn't... he has

Tom4784 27-06-2016 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8763815)
He was voted out first chance we got. And Georgina was critical of the morals of both Laura and Marco.



Women and men are different. And you seriously saying that recognizing this fact is somehow worse than cheating with a married man?




I couldn't stand Marco and nor could Georgina.

So you think that men are allowed to dress however they like but women can't do the same? You're slutshaming Evelyn for her actions OUTSIDE the house but you haven't condemned Marco for cheating which suggests that you're okay with men embracing their sexuality but it's a no go for women.

Why is that? Why do you believe women need to be judged harshly for actions that men are allowed to get away with?

Yaki da 27-06-2016 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8763921)
Seems like good old fashioned jealousy to me tbh.

Maybe it's both? Maybe she's jealous but also based on Evelyn having cheated with a married man, Georgina believes she's untrustworthy. And the fact Evelyn seems to her to be a desperate attention seeker.

Yaki da 27-06-2016 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8763933)
So you think that men are allowed to dress however they like but women can't do the same?


I'd prefer Alex to keep his shirt on to be honest.

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You're slutshaming Evelyn for her actions OUTSIDE the house but you haven't condemned Marco for cheating
I said he was the most despicable housemate in there weeks ago. I actually voted him out.


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which suggests that you're okay with men embracing their sexuality but it's a no go for women.
Marco was a despicable, cheating piece of ****. And two of the people who had the most fun with him were Laura and Evelyn.

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Why is that? Why do you believe women need to be judged harshly for actions that men are allowed to get away with?
Look, you've got me very wrong if you think I didn't condemn Marco.

Jamie89 27-06-2016 09:09 PM

Kind of funny as well that it's Evelyn's fault that Jackson can't be trusted, as if he shouldn't be expected to have any kind of self control

Yaki da 27-06-2016 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 8763952)
Kind of funny as well that it's Evelyn's fault that Jackson can't be trusted, as if he shouldn't be expected to have any kind of self control

Men are notorious for not having much of it.

Vicky. 27-06-2016 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8763935)
Maybe it's both? Maybe she's jealous but also based on Evelyn having cheated with a married man, Georgina believes she's untrustworthy. And the fact Evelyn seems to her to be a desperate attention seeker.

I would be tempted to go with this if not for the whole 'handstands in her knickers' convo where Georgina blasted her for it then freely admitted she would do the exact same thing if she had Evelyns figure.

I don't think she trusts Jackson but won't say that to him so Evelyn is getting the blame. Honestly, I would be wary of trusting someone who brags about shagging 300 women and wants to get married after 2 days :laugh:

azi 27-06-2016 09:13 PM

Georgina just got fingered on tv though :hehe:
what morals are you and she talking about?

Jamie89 27-06-2016 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8763958)
Men are notorious for not having much of it.

So Evelyn would be mostly to blame because she's the woman? :umm2:

Kazanne 27-06-2016 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8763859)
What evidence is there of this?



Maybe so. It's also now a fact that she knows Evelyn has cheated with a married man. Why does that fact about Evelyn bother people less than somebody saying "Stupid cow"?

Do you not think it possible Georgina dislikes people like Emma because she thinks she's fake. That she disliked Marco because she thought he was a degenerate. And that she dislikes people like Evelyn and probably Laura for the way they jsut throw themselves at men regardless of the circumstances?

Maybe viewers don't care about what happened before the house, but Georgina lives with these people and is making judgements based on everything she knows about them. And she knows Evelyn is the type of person who cheats with married men, and will take all of her clothes off just to get a bit of attention for herself.

Cant wait for her to judge latysha then when she watches The valleys:joker::joker::joker:

SolNox 27-06-2016 09:16 PM

Okay, so first of all I don't think she's taking her clothes off to seem more interesting, I think you're looking way to into that. And the married man thing, none of us know the situation, for all we know he could of been married but split from his wife, just not got a divorced making them legally married. We don't know so we shouldn't judge.

Yaki da 27-06-2016 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 8763979)
So Evelyn would be mostly to blame because she's the woman? :umm2:

I tend to hold women to higher standards yes. But both are to be condemned.

Yaki da 27-06-2016 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SolNox (Post 8763985)
Okay, so first of all I don't think she's taking her clothes off to seem more interesting, I think you're looking way to into that. And the married man thing, none of us know the situation for all we know he could of been married but split from his wife, just not got a divorced making them legally married. We don't know so we shouldn't judge.

Well you also don't know the extent to which Georgina knows about this so maybe you shouldn't judge her for being distrustful of Evelyn. if it is the worst case scenario would that not justify at least a little Georgina's mistrust of her?

SolNox 27-06-2016 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8764002)
Well you also don't know the extent to which Georgina knows about this so maybe you shouldn't judge her for being distrustful of Evelyn. if it is the worst case scenario would that not justify at least a little Georgina's mistrust of her?

I'm not judging Georgina, when did I do that? I'm saying we don't know the full story so shouldn't just jump down someone's throat for it.

Babayaro. 27-06-2016 09:20 PM

There's literally no proof in this. Just because Georgina said it, it doesn't mean it's true...

MrWong 27-06-2016 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8763891)
Let's say she was distrustful of her on the first night. And then gained info that she boasted about cheating with a married man. Do you not think that might not be proof enough that Evelyn is indeed a bit of a bitch?

Oh come on. Georgina's a judgemental jealous mess. It's been covered every night for over a week.

All Evelyn was doing on that first night was talking to Sam and Marco. If Georgina would have come over she would have seen Evelyn quickly shoot Marco down when he tried to suggest that Evelyn likes to be choked during sex.

Yaki da 27-06-2016 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 8764015)
Oh come on. Georgina's a judgemental jealous mess. It's been covered every night for over a week.

We all make judgements. Especially when it's become fashionable to make them about one particular housemate (such as Georgina right now). Some of us though like to try to put the other side, and it seems to be perfectly possible that one reason Georgina doesn't trust Evelyn is because she found out she cheated with a married man, which is a pretty ****ty thing to do.

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All Evelyn was doing on that first night was talking to Sam and Marco. If Georgina would have come over she would have seen Evelyn quickly shoot Marco down when he tried to suggest that Evelyn likes to be choked during sex.
And? Georgina didn't like her on the first night and since then she's seen things that made her dislike her more. One thing being that Evelyn apparently cheated with married man. Which if true, seems to me to be a far greater reason to be distrustful of someone, than the reasons people think georgina is some sort of evil human being for saying "Stupid cow" or having old fashioned viewers about some things.

Mystic Mock 27-06-2016 09:25 PM

I didn't know this about Evelyn tbf.

I still think that Georgina could treat her with a bit more respect though as it's not like Evelyn's done it to her.

And the married man is worse imo as they're the one in the relationship.

Yaki da 27-06-2016 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 8764012)
There's literally no proof in this. Just because Georgina said it, it doesn't mean it's true...

Where has Georgina got it from then?


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