Nikki Grahame wants Big Brother UK to try the Canadian format
 

She's absolutely right - I thought that we were going to go for it this series but I'd totally be up for them trying it another year :clap1:.

NO to Big Brother Canada taking up our format though - they don't need to as their version is currently the best globally atm.

An international BB legend spilling the tea :clap1: this would've been the perfect series to trial it because let's be honest the game hasn't 'changed' at all

It's about time the UK format was consigned to the depths of history and the public weren't allowed to get their dirty moronic hands anywhere near control of evictions

No thank you :) :)

If BBUK had the US format it would have 2 viewers

No, we have our own format that is simple and perfect as it is, it's only the production that are screwing the format up, however the last three evictions have shown that it works perfectly

So one more than it has now?

No.

With the right cast bbuk format will always be better than can and bbus.

Not at all, the US format is inherently more interesting and rewards housemates on merit as opposed to who's the most attractive, lucky enough to have a penis or who says or does nothing the entire series. Or a combination of all three

Imagine this series with the clique being allowed to openly plot to get Jayne, Andy, Evelyn etc out first. No ty.

Honestly it wouldn't make a difference at all? Bores like Alex will still stay because the housemates wouldn't nominate threats because the UK housemates have a completely different mind set since they've been watching the same format for 16 years. The HOH will just nominate the HMs that annoy them the most.

I would rather get to know a person and watch messy characters argue over booze than watch people constantly plotting and talking about the game all the time. BBUS is good but the bbuk format is a lot more enjoyable to watch. And let's not act like looks, sex and laying low don't affect how far you get in the game. BBUS also lets horrid people advance further and I'm sorry this whole "but they're so entertaining" argument is bull****. Watching a bunch of dislikable jocks advance and. Make it further than all the decent people just isn't entertaining for me. The best of BBUK trumps any international seasons.

But conversely those same housemates would be able to plot against the 'clique' themselves, and Andy and Evelyn would be more than capable of winning multiple HoH's to put their alliance in control

Well there's an argument that nominating people under the US format for personal reasons is actually far more entertaining and produces a better season (see: BB6 US) so that's not really a negative and plus I wouldn't mind that happening because at least it would be on merit and their own fault rather than because some idiotic voters don't like the fact they're a woman or spoke in an episode

BBCAN 2 was terrible until the public intervened

The cultures of reality TV in North America and elsewhere are way too solidified for any radical changes to be made at this point. You can't undo a decade and a half of history just because of what other countries are doing. Everything in the US (and Canada) is a reaction to Richard Hatch winning Survivor, and everything in the UK is a reaction to Nasty Nick getting expelled at Craig winning. If BBUK let the HMs discuss nominations and actively play the game, not only would the general public not respond well to it but the HMs really wouldn't know what to do. Just rewatch the first week of BB13 and see how that went.

And even so, if you like the BBUS format just watch BBUS and BBCan. If you like the BBUK format, just watch BBUK and CBB and BBAU :shrug: I don't think one format is inherently better than the other, but I will say that I think the best seasons of BBUK are better than the best BBUS seasons.

I also think BBCan is growing a little stale and has lost the magic from the first two seasons, but that's for another discussion.

This, I watch BBUS FOR BBUS and don't want another version over here

If they didn't stop the nomination talk in bb13 the season would of bee awful. All the outsiders would of been culled.

You get to know housemates in BBUS and BBCan far more than you do in BBUK because they have something we don't - live feed! I agree North American BB episode edits aren't as fleshed out as we have over here but that's because there's less of them, I wouldn't want to stop the daily shows even if we adopted their format and as a result you'd be able to develop characters better than they do in the US and Canada. The argument about 'endless gametalk' is totally false also, anyone who watches the feeds will know there's plenty of regular conversations because you cannot talk game for every minute of every day.

I don't think there's much difference between 'horrid' people making it further in different versions either, cause if you act like a twat you can make yourself a target under the US format. It isn't about who's more entertaining, it's about succeeding on merit. Entertaining housemates rarely do on BBUK because of the public vote and you generally only succeed with them if you're a man, attractive and never speak. This is irritating because the onus is on the viewers to keep the show afloat, under the US format I don't mind as much if a favourite of mine is evicted because it's at least usually their own fault

Except it's Big Brother UK, not Big Brother US or Canada.

Big Brother US has had the same format for 16 years and nobody's requesting it adopt another country's format.

The format is not the problem, the production is.

It's not false, as we don't have live feeds anymore, so we'd be where we are now and have just the highlights shows which would be a series long version of the god awful first half of BB15 constantly talking about "Power" and "Veto" etc etc etc.

That's where the format isn't the issue, because the show would still be dragged down by awful production, regardless of the nominations/eviction process.

All of this. ^^^

Oh no... you're so wrong! Competitions change the whole dynamic! The clique my try to plot, but if their not Head of household, or win Veto, or any other comp, they will have some guns aimed at them. :dance:

That's why the format in the USA is great... it's not about popularity only or just about comp. You need to be strategic.

And if UK doesn't wanna copy the USA/CAN model in full, they should at least copy Brazil's where there is still HoH and other competitions that give chance for players to do something and create conflict. In Spain they also have some major **** stirring dynamics that always bring the drama.

I'm so tired of this beauty pageant and miss congeniality that BBUK has turned into...

No, no and NO.

YASSSS

If you like the BBCan format, watch BBCan instead of whining tbh

Would not be interested in any reality show that doesnt have a public vote. It will just be towie with nominations.

I like the different formats between BBUS/BBCAN and BBUK :shrug:

I wouldn't change it, plus the public wouldn't respond well to a BBUS type show in the UK (see Survivor UK flopping despite it being a huge hit in America)

:clap1:

Also bb can barely get 1m views as it is a us format would kill the show.

That's one of the biggest things that has ruined BBUK the last few years, the major **** **** stirring. It's dull and boring watching them have to guess who tweeted what offensive comment, or which person said this over exaggerated thing in their audition interviews, right through to playing diary room conversations etc etc. It's just crap.

BBUK also doesn't have the budget of BBCan and US

Escort Sam out of here

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But no I rather it be the same. We already have two formats of that and only one of this (we used to have BBAU). And I don't think the UK public would enjoy the HGs evicting each other and having game plays.

Just look at the state of the reactions on here when the housemates evicted Danielle and Sam. :laugh: They'd hate a BBUS format.

One out of three

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And let's not pretend that Natalie would of gone any further with a US format girlies

https://uploadir.com/u/w9e2z1n7

I'd usually say that it wouldn't work as brits who go on BB are nowhere near competitive enough for the format to work like americans are although you could say the same about Canadians and their version is even better.

Saying that from BB17 UK I think especially Andrew as well as Hughie, Andy, Natalie and Jayne (The others basically) would actually suit great to the U.S format and remember how they wanted Alex and Jackson out because they were threats? That is a great example of game play that would work if the UK tried it.

They could have something as an online only series or would that be too expensive??

Nikki Grahame should have retired after the first series she was on. She was also useless on the Canadian version, having no tactics apart from her one trick of screaming.

It's obvious that things need changing, but with the cheap manipulating on CH5 it wouldn't matter which format as it still wouldn't work.

Totally agree!!!:clap1:

Nikki is awful and her 'act' is extremely limited and tediously repetitive.
One series of BB with her in it was more than enough for a lifetime.

I watch BB US and BB Canada and while i enjoy them for what they are why would we want a third country using the same format, especially when, when it was done properly, ours was far better (imo).

BB US format in the UK - NO THANK YOU!
Nikki Grahame - NO THANK YOU!