Jason taking all the flack...
 

For Ryan going?Idgi.He was'nt the only one to vote for the little orange turd.Why's he the devil?

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No he isn't.

Hughie just doesn't understand/respect his reasons behind his vote for Ryan. Literally nobody laid soul blame on Jason.

I know, it's not fair is it? When 4 people voted Ryan out but do they get any hassle for it? Of course not :mad:

Ryan was'nt calling anyone else a "dickhead" for voting him.It seems that everyone elses choices are respected but Jason is fecked whoever he picks.The only way Jason would be let off is if he'd have picked Andy or possibly Jane in an anhialation.Any other choice he makes then he's suddenly the bad bastard for his honest decisions or should he just be a sheep and go with the popular choice?

This makes me want to support him even more. I hate to see people treated unfairly :fist:

Yep i think his treatment will make him more popular with the public.All Ryans abuse is playing right into his hands.If Ryan had more brains he'd have took it gracefully and gone quietly.

Again...nobody blamed Ryan's eviction just on Jason, they just too unbridge to his reasons.

It's ridiculous, specially when you see the kind of thing Ryan was saying. Jason seems like a gentleman and I can see how that kind of talk about a young lady would bother him, even if she is a knickerless twat!

Hughie and Jason are both favourites of mine but I think Hughie is in the wrong here. He is acting like Jason is the only one who voted Ryan off.

It reminds me of Jim Davison, who used to get blamed for everything. Jims fault! :joker:

Hang on didn't you make the "Jason destroying the clique" thread?

He's either responsible for Ryan going or he isn't. Make your mind up.

Yeh, bring it on I say...the more he gets vilified the larger his support grows.

Fair enough if they disagree with his reason, but they acted like he was the only one to evict Ryan.

4 people evicted Ryan. That's all I'm going to say.

He's not getting all the flack at all. Hughie simply called him out for being two faced and not speaking his mind at the time, which is fair enough

So Jason didn't "destroy the clique" then?

They all wanna get their stealers on the cash on Friday, they are all game playing at this stage...every one of em...even darling little Evelyn and lovely sweet unassuming Jayne....why do people think she chose Ryan ? For the same equally dispicable behaviour as Jason did.

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When you say the clique do you mean the group of people who bitched behind people's backs, believed that their ring leader was more deserving than anyone else, isolated other housemates then approached them as a group to intimate them, didn't try in tasks and continually watched the whole house get punished because they were always breaking the rules, used their nominations to target people unfarely. Do you mean that clique. If so, then why is it not acceptable that some of the others have tried, and succeeded in breaking the clique into pieces ?

Jason doesnt understand what derogatory means.. I think thats why they were mad. He gave a reason which made zero sense.

I think its more with what Jason said about Ryan is why he is getting most flack, the other 3 had valid reasons; Jason did too as they showed Ryans comments, but they wont accept that comment

I think Jason understands a lot more than some thick eejit like Hughie!:laugh:

The thing is,I don't think they'd have accepted Jasons reason whatever it was.They just dislike him so out of all the four who voted Ryan Jason's the bad bastard.

Jason reason was the most valid actually. He was proven right when Ryan made that awful comment to Emma. Can't believe I ever liked the guy.

I completely agree with that.. He still doesnt understand what derogatory means though, making his nomination weird and worth discussing further.

Very true.Disgraceful sexism from Ryan

Yeah still bitter he took out their queen the other day

Vanessa, you call Ryan's comment awful but you supported Marco who called Laura a slut and a bitch when they were in the house together...I'm a bit confused by that :shrug:

Well the comment clearly made sense BB showed Ryan saying it:joker::joker::joker:

Jason knew what he meant and explained it to Hughie....unfortunately the likes of Hughie and Ryan don't really know what the word means.

Thats not derogatory though. Thats not what derogatory means. Its a valid reason for nominating somebody but not because what Ryan said was derogatory.. its not derogatory.. Its crude, hypersexual, perhaps disrespectful.. But not derogatory.

The thread asked why Jason is getting the flack and I believe it is because he has no idea what derogatory means.

And thats whys the argument died down afterwards. Jasons nomination was completely valid. But Ryans comments were not derogatory. The initial confusion evaporated cus he explained himself further.

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I notice that one of your descriptors for Ryans comment was 'disrespectful'.
Now here is the definition of 'derogatory' -
'derogatory
dɪˈrɒɡət(ə)ri/
adjective
showing a critical or disrespectful attitude.'

So actually according to you Jason does infact know the meaning of the word.

Yep,just what I pulled up too

Derogatory and disrespectful are not synonyms :facepalm:

Yes what Ryan said could be disrespectful.. But not derogatory..

Spitting on a grave is disrespectful and not derogatory for example.

I don't know how to explain this to you any further, this is something you (and Jason) should research in your own time.

Watching the video of Ryan talking utter filth proves Jason was 100% justified in the reason he nominated him

I was in my garden this morning and stepped on a fat slimy slug which had been gorging on the leaves of a young plant. Boy, I wish I hadn't - I had to spend hours explaining to that 'orrible thing as it was dying, just why I'd squashed it.

I found myself briefly touching on aspects of a whole range of subjects from existentialism to Freud's theories of pscho-analysis in my attempt to justify my action, but finally, I just had to face facts, and tell that slug, that I squashed it because it was a 'orrible, repulsive, slimy pest which NEEDED squashing.

it's a funny old world - innit.

kirky baby - when you finally tire from me - I hope you don't do that to me. :bawling:

You don't know how to explain it because you are wrong. If we take the literary meaning of all words spoken, the English language makes no sense. It is a language that we fill the gaps in with common sense and understanding. The best known phrase or statement people these days use is f..k off. Try explaining that to a foreigner. It means make love away....no that's daft. Just the same as Derogatory and disrespectful live in the same bowl.

Anyone can dissect and cogitate over everything we say and come up with a technically logical reason why it makes no sense but as Churchill one said, if it sounds right in English, it is right.

The statement Jason made to Ryan made no sense to ryan because he is thick, but when we apply a bit of common sense to what he said, nearly everyone there understood what he meant. Trying to prove it is grammatically wrong is an exercise in futility and fails badly. You are now being derogatory and disrespectful to everyone that thought the statement was right, work that one out.