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Cherie 17-07-2016 11:56 AM

The subject of some very lazy stereotypes
 
He would be in prison if he wasn't on BB
We will see him ion crime watch soon
Thick, uneducated
Probaby did some shoddy work in the past on someone drive
His Dad's a Mr Big in the travelling world

There are probably loads more but these are off the top of my head, at least try to trot out something factual about him, rather than clinging on to outdated stereotypes :joker:

sampvt 17-07-2016 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8826056)
He would be in prison if he wasn't on BB
We will see him ion crime watch soon
Thick, uneducated
Probaby did some shoddy work in the past on someone drive
His Dad's a Mr Big in the travelling world

There are probably loads more but these are off the top of my head, at least try to trot out something factual about him, rather than clinging on to outdated stereotypes :joker:

My work on the drive statement was a joke and not to be taken seriously. He says he is a social worker of some description but nobody seems to know where or who with. Personally I cant see him in that job due to his attitude to all that's wrong in the house and if he carries on like that in the real world, he would be sacked, hence I think he isn't being himself, if indeed he has a job on the outside at all. Most travellers don't have 9 to 5 jobs, so why is he different

Cherie 17-07-2016 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 8826065)
My work on the drive statement was a joke and not to be taken seriously. He says he is a social worker of some description but nobody seems to know where or who with. Personally I cant see him in that job due to his attitude to all that's wrong in the house and if he carries on like that in the real world, he would be sacked, hence I think he isn't being himself, if indeed he has a job on the outside at all. Most travellers don't have 9 to 5 jobs, so why is he different

It wasn't just you Sam there have been a number of posts stereotyping his background

-Sue- 17-07-2016 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8826056)
He would be in prison if he wasn't on BB
We will see him ion crime watch soon
Thick, uneducated
Probaby did some shoddy work in the past on someone drive
His Dad's a Mr Big in the travelling world

There are probably loads more but these are off the top of my head, at least try to trot out something factual about him, rather than clinging on to outdated stereotypes :joker:

To be fair we have opinions on HM's that may differ from yours so we won't always agree. We are not borg ;)

Perhaps we could call him Mr Nose-picker or Mr Chews-Like-Washing Machine :hehe:

Beso 17-07-2016 12:15 PM

nasty.

Jan S 17-07-2016 12:17 PM

i'm in agreement here about the stereotyping that has, in some instances, flirted heavily with downright bigotry.

hughie has shown some aspects of his character i liked, but overall far more i didn't. no need for the profiling he's received.

Cherie 17-07-2016 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 8826092)
To be fair we have opinions on HM's that may differ from yours so we won't always agree. We are not borg ;)

Perhaps we could call him Mr Nose-picker or Mr Chews-Like-Washing Machine :hehe:

They are not opinions based on Hughie or what he does in the house, they are stereotypes of his community, how can you not see the difference, and what is Borg :conf:

Cherie 17-07-2016 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jan S (Post 8826099)
i'm in agreement here about the stereotyping that has, in some instances, flirted heavily with downright bigotry.

hughie has shown some aspects of his character i liked, but overall far more i didn't. no need for the profiling he's received.

Thank you for seeing what I am trying to say here, sometimes it feels I'm talking double Dutch :laugh:

-Sue- 17-07-2016 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8826105)
They are not opinions based on Hughie or what he does in the house, they are stereotypes of his community, how can you not see the difference, and what is Borg :conf:

again I did not comment on anything of him being a traveller...:shrug:

so don't try and make out that I did please :)

Borg = 1 mind (collective its a trekkie thing) meaning we do not all think alike by what we see

PS 'Perhaps we could call him Mr Nose-picker or Mr Chews-Like-Washing Machine' he did that in house so I will comment thanks :D

Cherie 17-07-2016 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 8826115)
again I did not comment on anything of him being a traveller...:shrug:

so don't try and make out that I did please :)

Borg = 1 mind (collective its a trekkie thing) meaning we do not all think alike by what we see

Oh I see :laugh:

PS 'Perhaps we could call him Mr Nose-picker or Mr Chews-Like-Washing Machine' he did that in house so I will comment thanks :D



You can call him all the names you like based on what you see in the house I never said otherwise

TT350 17-07-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 8826115)
again I did not comment on anything of him being a traveller...:shrug:

so don't try and make out that I did please :)

Borg = 1 mind (collective its a trekkie thing) meaning we do not all think alike by what we see

PS 'Perhaps we could call him Mr Nose-picker or Mr Chews-Like-Washing Machine' he did that in house so I will comment thanks :D

I am Locutus of Borg.

jaxie 17-07-2016 01:01 PM

I like Hughie, he and Jason have both been my favourites through most of the show. There is something slightly innocent about him which is endearing and even when he loses his rag it's hard to dislike him. Who will ever forget the words trouble raising bitch! I think his accent is adorable. Where I think he sometimes lets himself down is that he is inclined to get a bee in his bonnet sometimes when it isn't really neccessary or justified, and he won't let things go, like a dog with a bone!

Stereotyping is a form of prejudice and unfortunately there will always be those who do not allow themselves to see beyond bias they have for where someone comes from and what their background is. This is their loss and seriously limits their view of the world.

-Sue- 17-07-2016 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TT350 (Post 8826169)
I am Locutus of Borg.

**salutes you in a military fashion** Captain sir :) :hee:

Tarryn 17-07-2016 01:20 PM

He is one of the better HM's this year & seems genuinely nice.
I just don't know what he saw in Ryan.........

hot2go 17-07-2016 01:40 PM

His background is irrelevant to me...it was irrelevant when I liked him and it is now I don't so much. I actually think he's more intelligent than Ryan, Lateysha, Sam and Evelyn but he's really immature. But even that isn't the reason I've gone off him, I liked Marco and he was more immature than any of em.
I switched my view of Hughie when he humiliated and persecuted Andy in front of everyone and then isolated him to do it again and again. In his eyes I saw the pleasure he was getting from being so intimidating and mean. He showed a different side that day and now i see it in many situations he has with people.

Cherie 17-07-2016 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 8826189)
I like Hughie, he and Jason have both been my favourites through most of the show. There is something slightly innocent about him which is endearing and even when he loses his rag it's hard to dislike him. Who will ever forget the words trouble raising bitch! I think his accent is adorable. Where I think he sometimes lets himself down is that he is inclined to get a bee in his bonnet sometimes when it isn't really neccessary or justified, and he won't let things go, like a dog with a bone!

Stereotyping is a form of prejudice and unfortunately there will always be those who do not allow themselves to see beyond bias they have for where someone comes from and what their background is. This is their loss and seriously limits their view of the world.



:clap2:

kirklancaster 17-07-2016 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TT350 (Post 8826169)
I am Locutus of Borg.

:laugh: And I am Kirk, and one of my friends once told me after a visit to TIBB, that "There's life Jim, but not as we know it"

My other friend, Spock, said he found TIBB "Fascinating".

And so it is, because, we are NOT all Borgs.

armand.kay 17-07-2016 01:48 PM

Even when Hughie looses his rsg I've never heard him make s physical threat or seen him get up into anyone's face or lunged st someone. Yet for some reason it's been suggested that he's a danger to housemates :think:

-Sue- 17-07-2016 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8826277)
Even when Hughie looses his rsg I've never heard him make s physical threat or seen him get up into anyone's face or lunged st someone. Yet for some reason it's been suggested that he's a danger to housemates :think:


Cherie 17-07-2016 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 8826286)

Did he touch Alex? :laugh: he was "restrained" by Jackson says it all really

armand.kay 17-07-2016 02:02 PM

That video isn't even the slightest bit threatening. There's so reason at all for people to be holding him back.

Cherie 17-07-2016 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8826301)
That video isn't even the slightest bit threatening. There's so reason at all for people to be holding him back.

Jackson wanted a bit of air time and Jason was pointing him to the DR

-Sue- 17-07-2016 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8826295)
Did he touch Alex? :laugh: he was "restrained" by Jackson says it all really

.. he is 'up in someones face' and was 'restrained' just wanted to reassure you that he is no angel and nope the sun doesn't shine out of his arse either... :hehe:

-Sue- 17-07-2016 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8826301)
That video isn't even the slightest bit threatening. There's so reason at all for people to be holding him back.

If someone was yelling at me this way I would back away... so yes 'threatening' and very uncomfortable... and that is an understatement:shrug:

Cherie 17-07-2016 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 8826312)
.. he is 'up in someones face' and was 'restrained' just wanted to reassure you that he is no angel and nope the sun doesn't shine out of his arse either... :hehe:

I never said he was an angel :hee: at any rate this thread is about the presumptions made about Hughie based on his heritage of which there have been many

-Sue- 17-07-2016 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8826317)
I never said he was an angel :hee: at any rate this thread is about the presumptions made about Hughie based on his heritage of which there have been many

True but I was simply responding to the statement that 'I've never heard him make s physical threat or seen him get up into anyone's face or lunged st someone'

would have been rude of me not to reply :)

kirklancaster 17-07-2016 02:37 PM

I have not had a go at Hughie, or made any comment about his traveller background etc, but I just cannot believe that ANYONE can have watched him in the BB House these past few weeks AND viewed that video, then disputed the view on here that he is unstable, aggressive AND threatening. :shrug:

It is Hughie who is aggressive.
It is Hughie who is shouting.
It is Hughie who is poking his finger towards the person he his shouting at.
It is Hughie who is aggressively advancing into the personal space AND face of the person he is shouting at.
It is Hughie whose face is both flushed with anger AND maniacally contorted with the same.

In my book, that evidence convinces me too, that he is unstable, aggressive, and so volatile that he represents a potential physical danger to whoever happens to be the target of his rage.

Had it been me he was confronting in such a manner, I would have been on the balls of my feet with my fists clenched READY to defend any attack from him.

Sorry.

-Sue- 17-07-2016 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8826348)
I have not had a go at Hughie, or made any comment about his traveller background etc, but I just cannot believe that ANYONE can have watched him in the BB House these past few weeks AND viewed that video, then disputed the view on here that he is unstable, aggressive AND threatening. :shrug:

It is Hughie who is aggressive.
It is Hughie who is shouting.
It is Hughie who is poking his finger towards the person he his shouting at.
It is Hughie who is aggressively advancing into the personal space AND face of the person he is shouting at.
It is Hughie whose face is both flushed with anger AND maniacally contorted with the same.

In my book, that evidence convinces me too, that he is unstable, aggressive, and so volatile that he represents a potential physical danger to whoever happens to be the target of his rage.

Had it been me he was confronting in such a manner, I would have been on the balls of my feet with my fists clenched READY to defend any attack from him.

Sorry.

:clap2: exactly my comments also have nothing to do with him being a traveller my comments on him are simply for him being a dickhead:hehe:

Cherie 17-07-2016 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8826348)
I have not had a go at Hughie, or made any comment about his traveller background etc, but I just cannot believe that ANYONE can have watched him in the BB House these past few weeks AND viewed that video, then disputed the view on here that he is unstable, aggressive AND threatening. :shrug:

It is Hughie who is aggressive.
It is Hughie who is shouting.
It is Hughie who is poking his finger towards the person he his shouting at.
It is Hughie who is aggressively advancing into the personal space AND face of the person he is shouting at.
It is Hughie whose face is both flushed with anger AND maniacally contorted with the same.

In my book, that evidence convinces me too, that he is unstable, aggressive, and so volatile that he represents a potential physical danger to whoever happens to be the target of his rage.

Had it been me he was confronting in such a manner, I would have been on the balls of my feet with my fists clenched READY to defend any attack from him.

Sorry.


You don't need to be sorry Kirk as I have said people are free to judge him on his actions in the house as they see fit, however none of the examples in the OP are based on anything other than bigotry and ignorance and jokey comments which if they were levied at many other communities would have the forum in uproar


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Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 8826413)
:clap2: exactly my comments also have nothing to do with him being a traveller my comments on him are simply for him being a dickhead:hehe:


As I have already said on this thread I have no problem with your opinion on him in the house

Jamie89 17-07-2016 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8826105)
They are not opinions based on Hughie or what he does in the house, they are stereotypes of his community, how can you not see the difference, and what is Borg :conf:

Star Trek shade :clap1:

It surprises me that fans of BB would be so quick to judge someone based on stereotypes. Surely one of the main reasons for enjoying a show like this is that you get to know what someone is really like over weeks of viewing them, and you get to see that more often than not, lazy cultural stereotypes are just that, and the individual person is usually pretty different. One of the best things about BB is it's ability to highlight that imo.
I haven't actually seen many of the examples of him being stereotyped to be honest though, so I'm just speaking generally.


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