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Xanzia 11-08-2016 01:14 AM

Is anybody concerned?
 
Colin is getting bullied mostly verbally, and spatially (although Bear was slapped down for crowding him). He's actually most like a girl among the boys. But now, it is also physically (by girls)! Those pies slammed into his face with great force. Is anybody concerned that there could be long lasting psychological effects for the Boominator?

jet 11-08-2016 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Xanzia (Post 8903957)
Colin is getting bullied mostly verbally, and spatially (although Bear was slapped down for crowding him). He's actually most like a girl among the boys. But now, it is also physically (by girls)! Those pies slammed into his face with great force. Is anybody concerned that there could be long lasting psychological effects for the Boominator?

No. He's a strong character who hasn't let them get to him with their bullying. He's the real man of the house. I'd be more worried about the effect Bear has had on some of the others, and Bear himself if someone really got to him. He's the weakest character - just a dick with no balls.

Maru 11-08-2016 02:28 AM

No I don't think he genuinely cares what others actually think about him. What is most important is Big D is that everyone acknowledges he's a cool badass and not just some tool

We have to admire how he can keep up the act despite all the frequent and ritual harassment. Bear's a noob compared to Heavy Disappointment :nono:

empire 11-08-2016 02:39 AM

lewis,marnie,chloe,bear, have done nothing but poke their faces into heavy ds personal life, invaded his space, they try and use insecurities to attack him in arguments, when he gets out of the house, he will stay in touch with many housemates, but lewis,marnie,chloe,bear, he will not want to be in the same room with those d''kheads, who can blame him, he will not have those 4 on his facebook or twitter, frankie and heavy d seem to make great mates,

Rob! 11-08-2016 02:44 AM

You should have felt the force of that pie on my ****ing face

Babayaro. 11-08-2016 08:05 AM

Fortunately, Heavy D's managed to deal with all the **** thrown his way with ease. One of the things I like about him is that he doesn't play the victim card and stands up to Bear and co.

chuff me dizzy 11-08-2016 08:41 AM

Not concerned in the slightest,he gives more out than he gets back

Miranda123 11-08-2016 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Xanzia (Post 8903957)
Colin is getting bullied mostly verbally, and spatially (although Bear was slapped down for crowding him). He's actually most like a girl among the boys. But now, it is also physically (by girls)! Those pies slammed into his face with great force. Is anybody concerned that there could be long lasting psychological effects for the Boominator?

Long lasting psychological effect?

How would anyone tell? He is already a f.cking ******!

Yaki da 11-08-2016 08:56 AM

Not one bit concerned at all. Because I'm not a hysterical person constantly looking for reasons to write to Ofcom.

Yaki da 11-08-2016 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 8904204)
Fortunately, Heavy D's managed to deal with all the **** thrown his way with ease. One of the things I like about him is that he doesn't play the victim card and stands up to Bear and co.

He did exactly that in the diary room actually.

letmein 11-08-2016 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Xanzia (Post 8903957)
Colin is getting bullied mostly verbally, and spatially (although Bear was slapped down for crowding him). He's actually most like a girl among the boys. But now, it is also physically (by girls)! Those pies slammed into his face with great force. Is anybody concerned that there could be long lasting psychological effects for the Boominator?

God, Brits are such babies. :joker:

hot2go 11-08-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 8904086)
You should have felt the force of that pie on my ****ing face

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

hot2go 11-08-2016 11:29 AM

No bullying taking place .....conflicts, revenge noms, lost tempers, wind ups, stealing, fighting, arguing but not bullying.
But those who do think it's none stop bullying, why are you still watching it ?

Withano 11-08-2016 12:09 PM

Spatially bullied is an interesting concept, I've never thought of that. I don't think theres long lasting damage though. Short term damage of a migraine at worst

Withano 11-08-2016 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8904449)
No bullying taking place .....conflicts, revenge noms, lost tempers, wind ups, stealing, fighting, arguing but not bullying.
But those who do think it's none stop bullying, why are you still watching it ?

What the **** is your definition of bullying. If a group of four target you to do any of these things repeatedly throughout the day, they are bullying you.

Youve also missed bear repeatedly waking heavy up, bears goading and bears passive aggressive cuntishness. Talking over people, **** stirring, wastig food because hes on a basic rations and abusing his power unapologetically.


Bear is a bully. Bullying isnt exclusive to children, adults can bully too and you pretty much defined it before saying theres none in the house.

Robodog 11-08-2016 12:46 PM

The only times i have felt uncomfortable watching CBB is

a) when Lewis made Heavy D 'beg' for that half drunk glass of stolen wine and

b) when Saira stood over Heavy D, with her foot on his bed, ignoring him when he asked her to leave him alone and threatening him into saying what she wanted to hear 'say my name SAY MY NAME' etc

I think Heavy D is annoying but these two events were deliberate intimidation and belittling, using threat to control someone's behaviour. I'd call that a form of bullying.

I think Heavy D is deep down quite vulnerable and i also think Lewis and Saira are both clever but spiteful individuals who have exploited Heavy D's vulnerability for their own power trip.

Crimson Dynamo 11-08-2016 12:48 PM

its just like at school with the popular kids hating on the fatty

Paula D 11-08-2016 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 8904578)
The only times i have felt uncomfortable watching CBB is

a) when Lewis made Heavy D 'beg' for that half drunk glass of stolen wine and

b) when Saira stood over Heavy D, with her foot on his bed, ignoring him when he asked her to leave him alone and threatening him into saying what she wanted to hear 'say my name SAY MY NAME' etc

I think Heavy D is annoying but these two events were deliberate intimidation and belittling, using threat to control someone's behaviour. I'd call that a form of bullying.

I think Heavy D is deep down quite vulnerable and i also think Lewis and Saira are both clever but spiteful individuals who have exploited Heavy D's vulnerability for their own power trip.

Totally agree on b) She was so in his face it was horrible.

I think Heavy D is being totally bullied in there and it will backfire because he will lose the head and then he'll be the one in trouble.

Paula D 11-08-2016 03:59 PM

I think Heavy D would be a good bet to win at this stage though, if he keeps his cool the voting public will soon see through these horrible thugs.

Jan S 11-08-2016 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Paula D (Post 8904923)
I think Heavy D would be a good bet to win at this stage though, if he keeps his cool the voting public will soon see through these horrible thugs.

if he stays in and is up against the yobs in the final he stands a good chance of gathering lots of votes from the anti-yobbites

if he stays and ends up against ricky, maybe sam, or renee, then i'm not so sure of his chances as the votes will get split more.

edit: unless colin loses the plot entirely, and continues to fight his own corner (the others aren't fighting it for him, he really is alone - they even went to the diary room without him), i can see him in a final against ricky and renee.

Brother Leon 11-08-2016 04:05 PM

He can look after himself. He takes most things on the chin and with a laugh anyway.

Xanzia 11-08-2016 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by letmein (Post 8904310)
God, Brits are such babies. :joker:

It is true that BBUK is nothing like the constant psycho-babble you get around BBUS. Both are pretty dark though, with the rampant 'honesty' of the UK version contrasting with the outright in-yer-face lying of the US.

Yaki da 11-08-2016 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 8904531)
What the **** is your definition of bullying. If a group of four target you to do any of these things repeatedly throughout the day, they are bullying you.

A group of 4 haven't bullied him though. Invariably any confrontation has been one on one and Heavy D has himself provoked it as much as they have. And frankly Chloe is within her rights to think he's a prick after calling her "It!".


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Youve also missed bear repeatedly waking heavy up, bears goading and bears passive aggressive cuntishness. Talking over people, **** stirring, wastig food because hes on a basic rations and abusing his power unapologetically.
He's done that with every single person in the house. Bullying tends to be when one person is singled out and it is relentless. Nothing of the sort has gone on here.

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Bear is a bully. Bullying isnt exclusive to children, adults can bully too and you pretty much defined it before saying theres none in the house.
Bear's just a wind up merchant. Given that the others have strength in number and have said plenty of things themselves, you could (though I wouldn't) say he's been bullied. Renee never shuts up about him. Aubrey gobbed in his food and drink. The way I see it, Bear is giving as good back.

Yaki da 11-08-2016 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 8904578)
The only times i have felt uncomfortable watching CBB is

a) when Lewis made Heavy D 'beg' for that half drunk glass of stolen wine and

After Heavy D asked in the obnoxious manner I suspect he asks for everything.

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b) when Saira stood over Heavy D, with her foot on his bed, ignoring him when he asked her to leave him alone and threatening him into saying what she wanted to hear 'say my name SAY MY NAME' etc
Why did she do that? Because this idiot after 12 days is still, almost certainly on purpose, calling her "See-ah-rah"

Is she not allowed to get fed up with this?


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I think Heavy D is annoying but these two events were deliberate intimidation and belittling, using threat to control someone's behaviour. I'd call that a form of bullying.
You're talking ****. You will concede he's annoying, but only to make it look like your less biased than you are. Heavy is an obnoxious prick who winds people up in order to get them to snap himself.

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I think Heavy D is deep down quite vulnerable and i also think Lewis and Saira are both clever but spiteful individuals who have exploited Heavy D's vulnerability for their own power trip.
What you mean is this... "Heavy D is ugly and fat and possibly slightly retarded so I'm inclined to overlook anything he does whilst I will put the worst possible spin on anything certain others do because it's fashionable to dislike them"

Withano 11-08-2016 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8905214)


He's done that with every single person in the house. Bullying tends to be when one person is singled out and it is relentless. Nothing of the sort has gone on here.


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Thanks for confirming that Bear has bullied every single person and not just Heavy, this was a theory of mine too. As for your other points, Bears behaviour isn't okay just because Aubrey did something arguably worse one time. Thats a tired and weird argument.

Yaki da 11-08-2016 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 8905247)
Thanks for confirming that Bear has bullied every single person and not just Heavy

So in other words he hasn't singled anyone out and is more of a wind up merchant than a bully. Good for you for admitting this reality.

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As for your other points, Bears behaviour isn't okay just because Aubrey did something arguably worse one time. Thats a tired and weird argument.
Bears behaviour has to put into context. The other housemates haven't treated him well. Some of them are have been despicable. But he has not "bullied" anyone and it's a hysterical overreaction to think he has.

Withano 11-08-2016 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8905255)
So in other words he hasn't singled anyone out and is more of a wind up merchant than a bully. Good for you for admitting this reality.



Bears behaviour has to put into context. The other housemates haven't treated him well. Some of them are have been despicable. But he has not "bullied" anyone and it's a hysterical overreaction to think he has.

Of course hes bullied people. Regularly.

jet 11-08-2016 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 8904578)
The only times i have felt uncomfortable watching CBB is

a) when Lewis made Heavy D 'beg' for that half drunk glass of stolen wine and

b) when Saira stood over Heavy D, with her foot on his bed, ignoring him when he asked her to leave him alone and threatening him into saying what she wanted to hear 'say my name SAY MY NAME' etc

I think Heavy D is annoying but these two events were deliberate intimidation and belittling, using threat to control someone's behaviour. I'd call that a form of bullying.

I think Heavy D is deep down quite vulnerable and i also think Lewis and Saira are both clever but spiteful individuals who have exploited Heavy D's vulnerability for their own power trip.

Excellent post.
I'm glad the majority on here, including yourself, have read the situation correctly. A small minority really aren't very perceptive at all...if most people think a certain way, they are very likely to be correct...

waterhog 11-08-2016 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Xanzia (Post 8903957)
Colin is getting bullied mostly verbally, and spatially (although Bear was slapped down for crowding him). He's actually most like a girl among the boys. But now, it is also physically (by girls)! Those pies slammed into his face with great force. Is anybody concerned that there could be long lasting psychological effects for the Boominator?

I totally disagree - big man and he can handle it.

Yaki da 11-08-2016 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 8905366)
Excellent post.
I'm glad the majority on here, including yourself, have read the situation correctly. A small minority really aren't very perceptive at all...if most people think a certain way, they are very likely to be correct...

You've read it completely wrong. How was Saira (who I didn't like btw) wrong for being fed up with Heavy getting her name wrong for 12 days? Saira also had her looks insulted by Heavy. Followed by false laugh to make it seem less harsh.

jet 11-08-2016 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8905388)
You've read it completely wrong. How was Saira (who I didn't like btw) wrong for being fed up with Heavy getting her name wrong for 12 days? Saira also had her looks insulted by Heavy. Followed by false laugh to make it seem less harsh.

If you don't think she was very wrong in how she handled the situation, there is nothing I can do for you. Perception and compassion can't just be handed out like sweeties. :hee:

hot2go 11-08-2016 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8905214)
A group of 4 haven't bullied him though. Invariably any confrontation has been one on one and Heavy D has himself provoked it as much as they have. And frankly Chloe is within her rights to think he's a prick after calling her "It!".




He's done that with every single person in the house. Bullying tends to be when one person is singled out and it is relentless. Nothing of the sort has gone on here.



Bear's just a wind up merchant. Given that the others have strength in number and have said plenty of things themselves, you could (though I wouldn't) say he's been bullied. Renee never shuts up about him. Aubrey gobbed in his food and drink. The way I see it, Bear is giving as good back.

This is how i see it too...there is always conflict in the BB house and this year is no exception....if a person has an issue with another person other than on one occasion it's called bullying and I don't think this is correct. Lewis and Marnie showed ugly behaviour to Heavy but it was one time only and Heavy gave as good as he got. Had they had continued to repeat that behaviour then there would be a problem but one isolated incident does not make it bullying esp as Heavy had just previously behaved no better himself ....not liking someone does not make you a bully...Bear isn't even in the equation cause he stands to to toe with people not clustered in a group whispering about them....I think the girls talking about Chloe while she lay in bed was closer to bullying. And if what Bear is doing is bullying Heavy, which I don't believe, why the hell are the others standing there and allowing it to happen....just how great are they ?
Frenchie poured food all over the floor, danced and screamed in the bedroom at night and took a pair of scissors to someone's clothes yet she was called a Queen not a bully.

sampvt 11-08-2016 07:08 PM

I am a big heavy fan just because he has the measure of the whole house. He suffers no fools and he can be quite funny. Ok he is a complete dick but unlike bear he is watchable

hot2go 11-08-2016 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8905388)
You've read it completely wrong. How was Saira (who I didn't like btw) wrong for being fed up with Heavy getting her name wrong for 12 days? Saira also had her looks insulted by Heavy. Followed by false laugh to make it seem less harsh.

This was very relevant because when Heavy insulted Saira it really pissed Lewis off who defended her and told Heavy that he thought he was a really nasty man...that was where it began that night, not with the drinks but in the garden with Saira...Heavy laughed in her face and made himself the target he later became. Lewis was wrong but it wasn't random, there was resentment already there and that resentment had been created by Heavy himself.
I think it's a complete misconception that Heavy is a victim. To me him and Bear are the same but Bear is just better at it....and neither of them are like Lewis.

Yaki da 11-08-2016 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 8905478)
If you don't think she was very wrong in how she handled the situation, there is nothing I can do for you. Perception and compassion can't just be handed out like sweeties. :hee:

What she was, was fed up with him after 12 days of living with her still mispronouncing her name. Why are you not critical of him for this? Why should a person have to put up with it? There's no way he wasn't doing that on purpose.

joeysteele 11-08-2016 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8904227)
Not concerned in the slightest,he gives more out than he gets back

:joker: was going to type similar to this, so I looked to see if you had posted and you had, knowing you would have said what I would say anyway.

He is not being bullied in any shape or form whatsoever.

Lstan 11-08-2016 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Xanzia (Post 8903957)
Colin is getting bullied mostly verbally, and spatially (although Bear was slapped down for crowding him). He's actually most like a girl among the boys. But now, it is also physically (by girls)! Those pies slammed into his face with great force. Is anybody concerned that there could be long lasting psychological effects for the Boominator?

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Yaki da 11-08-2016 08:42 PM

Lewis has been so nasty towards Heavy tonight. Telling him to just eat some food as he deserves it.


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