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Northern Monkey 25-08-2016 10:06 PM

Renee showed her true nasty side
 
Her true colours really came out tonight.
Wanting Bear to get whacked by mobsters and then her awful low cancer jibe.
Bear has never been nasty like that to anyone.Let us hope she is not rewarded for this vitriolic behaviour.She turned what could have been a light hearted and nice episode quite dark.

Vanessa 25-08-2016 10:08 PM

Not the first time she has threatened him, but always gets away with it :nono:

Daffodil 25-08-2016 10:08 PM

*yawn*

Northern Monkey 25-08-2016 10:09 PM

No warning either:shrug:

rusticgal 25-08-2016 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8944182)
Not the first time she has threatened him, but always gets away with it :nono:



Perhaps if they hadn't let Bear get away with umpteen warnings they would have stamped down on it.

Vanessa 25-08-2016 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 8944201)
Perhaps if they hadn't let Bear get away with umpteen warnings they would have stamped down on it.

Most of those were for wasting food. Since when did they give warnings for that ? :crazy:

cassieparis 25-08-2016 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8944177)
Her true colours really came out tonight.
Wanting Bear to get whacked by mobsters and then her awful low cancer jibe.
Bear has never been nasty like that to anyone.Let us hope she is not rewarded for this vitriolic behaviour.She turned what could have been a light hearted and nice episode quite dark.

Loved it. She should have been franker! Bear is a manipulative, aggressive angry, attention seeking, thick skinned, exhibitionist of the highest order and although unable to take as much as he gives will get over it. Even if forum members cannot.

BENDERBOY 25-08-2016 10:29 PM

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BENDERBOY 25-08-2016 10:31 PM

It's only a matter of time til someone does turn around and does him in.

As for the cancer jibe, she's right he is a toxic vile lump of s@@t

Jase. 25-08-2016 10:37 PM

If Bear turns up dead sometime after CBB ends...well, we'll all know why now :joker:

caprimint 25-08-2016 10:52 PM

So so vile. And also not just what she says, the fact she threw Bear's food he made for her into the bin. Her actions are terrible as well.

joeysteele 25-08-2016 11:08 PM

I thought the cancer comment was really low, not when she originally made it but when she confirmed she did mean him being a cancer.

However so much for her word since she said later to him that she never meant he was a cancer.
Cancer is not a thing to joke about.

Northern Monkey 25-08-2016 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 8944553)
I thought the cancer comment was really low, not when she originally made it but when she confirmed she did mean him being a cancer.

However so much for her word since she said later to him that she never meant he was a cancer.
Cancer is not a thing to joke about.

Very true.It was a very nasty comment.She lowered the whole thing to a different level

letmein 26-08-2016 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8944177)
Her true colours really came out tonight.
Wanting Bear to get whacked by mobsters and then her awful low cancer jibe.
Bear has never been nasty like that to anyone.Let us hope she is not rewarded for this vitriolic behaviour.She turned what could have been a light hearted and nice episode quite dark.

Here's a kleenex for your tears. :laugh:

wendywillow 26-08-2016 04:27 AM

renee has tried to make up with bear several times, and he's continued to be a merciless a**hole to her, I cant blame her for being over it

Ammi 26-08-2016 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8944177)
Her true colours really came out tonight.
Wanting Bear to get whacked by mobsters and then her awful low cancer jibe.
Bear has never been nasty like that to anyone.Let us hope she is not rewarded for this vitriolic behaviour.She turned what could have been a light hearted and nice episode quite dark.

...but isn't that Bear's whole game-plan, to antagonise, goad and provoke 'the true colours'...(while masking his own 'true colours' in his Bear character..)...and what he's been praised for in his methods..he's consistently brought housemates to tears and raw emotion and that's 'nasty' and even when he's done it, he's carried on pushing and poking after his insincere apologies ..(because he knows that he has to make those apologies or whatever as well to keep it all in the game...)...and then another apology and then another apology and etc etc, which if anyone was truly sorry thy wouldn't have to be making....it really is poor and a poor series when we're rating levels of 'nastiness' and oh that wasn't as bad as that etc...sadly he will be rewarded though for his engineering of this hateful playground....

Garfie 26-08-2016 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cassieparis (Post 8944289)
Loved it. She should have been franker! Bear is a manipulative, aggressive angry, attention seeking, thick skinned, exhibitionist of the highest order and although unable to take as much as he gives will get over it. Even if forum members cannot.

:clap1:

Garfie 26-08-2016 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8945145)
...but isn't that Bear's whole game-plan, to antagonise, goad and provoke 'the true colours'...(while masking his own 'true colours' in his Bear character..)...and what he's been praised for in his methods..he's consistently brought housemates to tears and raw emotion and that's 'nasty' and even when he's done it, he's carried on pushing and poking after his insincere apologies ..(because he knows that he has to make those apologies or whatever as well to keep it all in the game...)...and then another apology and then another apology and etc etc, which if anyone was truly sorry thy wouldn't have to be making....it really is poor and a poor series when we're 'nastiness' and oh that wasn't as bad as that etc...sadly he will be rewarded though for his engineering of this hateful playground....

:clap1: Yes, so true. And I think the cancer comment is being misinterpreted- she means a cancer in terms of his vile behaviour within the house, and the way the negative impact has infected everyone in there, not in terms of the actual illness.

Vanessa 26-08-2016 07:29 AM

She should have been thrown out for the hitman comment. Out of order. They give Bear warnings for wasting food, but let this go? Actually saying she wants him dead? D:

Vanessa 26-08-2016 07:32 AM

Imagine if Bear hD made that comment and kept saying he wanted her dead everyone here would be saying they must kick him out. But because its Rene making threats to Bear it's ok. Some people are actually saying he deserves to die :shocked:

joeysteele 26-08-2016 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8945145)
...but isn't that Bear's whole game-plan, to antagonise, goad and provoke 'the true colours'...(while masking his own 'true colours' in his Bear character..)...and what he's been praised for in his methods..he's consistently brought housemates to tears and raw emotion and that's 'nasty' and even when he's done it, he's carried on pushing and poking after his insincere apologies ..(because he knows that he has to make those apologies or whatever as well to keep it all in the game...)...and then another apology and then another apology and etc etc, which if anyone was truly sorry thy wouldn't have to be making....it really is poor and a poor series when we're rating levels of 'nastiness' and oh that wasn't as bad as that etc...sadly he will be rewarded though for his engineering of this hateful playground....

With respect though Ammi, by your own statement, isn't he the one in fact who is indeed 'not' masking the negative side to him, since you clearly see how he does wind up, goad and annoy the others and it is shown in the highlights by BB, not him, every night.
He does not edit and dictate what it is put in the highlights, BB can ignore and dismiss anything that goes on if they wished to.

He admits the negatives to himself and, in my opinion, has played the wind up merchant to near perfection.
The others are the ones who have reacted to him almost every time he does, even with that full knowledge that he is winding them up.

Perhaps then, seeing him and how he goes on.
Had it been a series without him being as he is, maybe we would not have been shown the negative sides to the others,being therefore left with a false impression of how they think and in fact really are.

Kazanne 26-08-2016 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8944177)
Her true colours really came out tonight.
Wanting Bear to get whacked by mobsters and then her awful low cancer jibe.
Bear has never been nasty like that to anyone.Let us hope she is not rewarded for this vitriolic behaviour.She turned what could have been a light hearted and nice episode quite dark.

Oh,c'mon we all have a nasty side Renee is no different,she explained her cancer remark,people seem to be grasping at just anything now to excuse Bears many faults,I like Renee,at least she has feelings for people.

ebandit 26-08-2016 07:41 AM

renee always agreed with biggins......

Mark L

Kazanne 26-08-2016 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8945228)
Imagine if Bear hD made that comment and kept saying he wanted her dead everyone here would be saying they must kick him out. But because its Rene making threats to Bear it's ok. Some people are actually saying he deserves to die :shocked:

We had all that with Jason,not seen it aimed at Bear yet,

Kazanne 26-08-2016 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 8944492)
So so vile. And also not just what she says, the fact she threw Bear's food he made for her into the bin. Her actions are terrible as well.

What a waste of food that was,Bear has never wasted food has he?:smug:

joeysteele 26-08-2016 07:52 AM

Food gets wasted in all BB series, I recall Harry only ordering bananas as shopping, and Jay jumping all over the bananas in the stockroom.

It is nothing new at all on BB and that was thought hilarious at the time.
Food fights are almost in near every series.

Renee did not explain the cancer comment either and having family who have cancer I felt she went really low.
She said to the others she did not mean him directly as being cancer.
She said the same to him face to face in the garden later.

However talking to her 'aide' Aubrey, she said she 'did' mean it directly as to him and went even further with her venom on it.
In my view she was out of order on that and sadly not someone to be trusted either as to her word or anything else possibly.

Cherie 26-08-2016 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8945223)
She should have been thrown out for the hitman comment. Out of order. They give Bear warnings for wasting food, but let this go? Actually saying she wants him dead? D:

The only explanation for her not being turfed out for wishing hurt on another HM is that it was scripted, if that was real them there are no words

Northern Monkey 26-08-2016 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8945145)
...but isn't that Bear's whole game-plan, to antagonise, goad and provoke 'the true colours'...(while masking his own 'true colours' in his Bear character..)...and what he's been praised for in his methods..he's consistently brought housemates to tears and raw emotion and that's 'nasty' and even when he's done it, he's carried on pushing and poking after his insincere apologies ..(because he knows that he has to make those apologies or whatever as well to keep it all in the game...)...and then another apology and then another apology and etc etc, which if anyone was truly sorry thy wouldn't have to be making....it really is poor and a poor series when we're rating levels of 'nastiness' and oh that wasn't as bad as that etc...sadly he will be rewarded though for his engineering of this hateful playground....

Bear has'nt been that nasty to anyone though and has'nt threatened anyone or wished death on them or compared them to cancer.He's kept it to light hearted humour and yes he's wound them up and been annoying but Renee certainly let her mask slip with those comments.If someone's annoying you then you can annoy them back,Not get them killed.She took it too far.

Northern Monkey 26-08-2016 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 8945255)
Food gets wasted in all BB series, I recall Harry only ordering bananas as shopping, and Jay jumping all over the bananas in the stockroom.

It is nothing new at all on BB and that was thought hilarious at the time.
Food fights are almost in near every series.

Renee did not explain the cancer comment either and having family who have cancer I felt she went really low.
She said to the others she did not mean him directly as being cancer.
She said the same to him face to face in the garden later.

However talking to her 'aide' Aubrey, she said she 'did' mean it directly as to him and went even further with her venom on it.
In my view she was out of order on that and sadly not someone to be trusted either as to her word or anything else possibly.

:clap1:
Well said

Vanessa 26-08-2016 08:06 AM

Bear never threatened to have someone killed or called them cancer. That crosses the line :nono:

Clootie Dumpling 26-08-2016 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8945269)
Bear never threatened to have someone killed or called them cancer. That crosses the line :nono:

Nonsense!

Vanessa 26-08-2016 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Clootie Dumpling (Post 8945272)
Nonsense!

It's a fact. He may be annoying sometimes, but he never gets personal

Ammi 26-08-2016 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8945264)
Bear has'nt been that nasty to anyone though and has'nt threatened anyone or wished death on them or compared them to cancer.He's kept it to light hearted humour and yes he's wound them up and been annoying but Renee certainly let her mask slip with those comments.If someone's annoying you then you can annoy them back,Not get them killed.She took it too far.

...indeed, of course not because that wouldn't have been the Bear who had to balance out with the 'charm' and the humour as well, while he was pushing people to their very limits and trying for the inevitable of negativity that it was going to bring...he hasn't 'kept it light' though, there is real spite and callous disregard/lack of empathy in his game-plan and the thing is, when someone antagonises/goads etc to the consistent and relentless extent that he has, it's always going to release things that he has no control over and the very worst of people....he's been the perpetrator so it's really not hard for him to maintain his mask, while others have not been so in his game...I condone nothing of any bad or extreme reactions from others and I don't defend them at all...but I don't think that any of us forum people would defend/laugh with or at/find entertainment or charm etc in any troll that was pushing our own buttons to the very limit and then laughing at us and saying...oooo, you upset then, my goodness me.....and again and again and again and again...and that's what he basically is, a troll....

Clootie Dumpling 26-08-2016 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8945276)
It's a fact. He may be annoying sometimes, but he never gets personal

If by personal you mean that he doesn't insult HMs directly by making personal remarks, e.g. about their appearance, then I accept that point, but his passive-aggressive tendencies mean that he attacks HMs obliquely and makes it very personal for the person who he's targeting.

Vanessa 26-08-2016 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Clootie Dumpling (Post 8945283)
If by personal you mean that he doesn't insult HMs directly by making personal remarks, e.g. about their appearance, then I accept that point, but his passive-aggressive tendencies mean that he attacks HMs obliquely and makes it very personal for the person who he's targeting.

If you ignore him he loses interest. We have seen that last on live feed. But they wanted their Camera time.

Northern Monkey 26-08-2016 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8945281)
...indeed, of course not because that wouldn't have been the Bear who had to balance out with the 'charm' and the humour as well, while he was pushing people to their very limits and trying for the inevitable of negativity that it was going to bring...he hasn't 'kept it light' though, there is real spite and callous disregard/lack of empathy in his game-plan and the thing is, when someone antagonises/goads etc to the consistent and relentless extent that he has, it's always going to release things that he has no control over and the very worst of people....he's been the perpetrator so it's really not hard for him to maintain his mask, while others have not been so in his game...I condone nothing of any bad or extreme reactions from others and I don't defend them at all...but I don't think that any of us forum people would defend/laugh with or at/find entertainment or charm etc in any troll that was pushing our own buttons to the very limit and then laughing at us and saying...oooo, you upset then, my goodness me.....and again and again and again and again...and that's what he basically is, a troll....

I thought James handled him perfectly when he poured the coffee over Bear.That's Bear's level and Bear left him alone after that because he knew he'd met his match.What James didn't do is threaten his life in any way.If Renee can only revert to that level when someone annoys her then she shouldn't have been put in the house.It is inevitable that you will meet annoying characters in there.That's the name of the game.

Ellen 26-08-2016 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele;8945255[B
]Food gets wasted in all BB series[/B], I recall Harry only ordering bananas as shopping, and Jay jumping all over the bananas in the stockroom.

It is nothing new at all on BB and that was thought hilarious at the time.
Food fights are almost in near every series.

Renee did not explain the cancer comment either and having family who have cancer I felt she went really low.
She said to the others she did not mean him directly as being cancer.
She said the same to him face to face in the garden later.

However talking to her 'aide' Aubrey, she said she 'did' mean it directly as to him and went even further with her venom on it.
In my view she was out of order on that and sadly not someone to be trusted either as to her word or anything else possibly.

You mention BB but I really dont recall the amount of wasting food like Bear has done in any CBB before. :conf:

bots 26-08-2016 08:27 AM

i dont get the this person is better than another bollocks. The majority in that house are completely unsavoury. Its complete trash

Ellen 26-08-2016 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8945292)
I thought James handled him perfectly when he poured the coffee over Bear.That's Bear's level and Bear left him alone after that because he knew he'd met his match.What James didn't do is threaten his life in any way.If Renee can only revert to that level when someone annoys her then she shouldn't have been put in the house.It is inevitable that you will meet annoying characters in there.That's the name of the game.

Didn't Renee pour water on him? He didn't leave her alone though.

Ammi 26-08-2016 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8945292)
I thought James handled him perfectly when he poured the coffee over Bear.That's Bear's level and Bear left him alone after that because he knew he'd met his match.What James didn't do is threaten his life in any way.If Renee can only revert to that level when someone annoys her then she shouldn't have been put in the house.It is inevitable that you will meet annoying characters in there.That's the name of the game.

..I love the playing down of 'when someone annoys'...(I feel Bear would be disappointed in that choice of words as well with all of his efforts and hoping they've been appreciated to their fullest..)...anyways, as I say ..I don't condone Renee's recent reactions/words... but I think 'breaking people' as he has can never be seen as not spiteful or nasty or justified just because it shows 'their capability/or capacity' etc...just because some have held together in a better way, really doesn't justify/excuse or have any bearing...and no respect even for the extreme emotions that he's provoked and poked but just often 'making light' of those as well....anyways, I don't choose to spend any more moments of my day in the discussion of Bear so I'm off to start my day and hope that you enjoy yours, Northern Monkey....


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