Sexism in modern tv advertising ignored by the media
 

I just watched the misandrist male bashing bonmarche advert where women are hitting men and mocking them and no one bats an eyelide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS6u4NPFI2Q came across just a few of 1000s of male bashing adverts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S62sl-qWEqo....the general theme is all men are morons, incapable, selfish, lazy, greedy, incapable, dumb , ignorant stupid idiots and all women are perfect and betetr at everything and of course thats not sexist at all?


If it was the other way around the adverts would be pulled down the company fined, politicians would be debating it and feminists would be up in arms..What a disgraceful bigoted ,male bashing culture we now live in, no doubt it must destroy the confidence of young boys watching..But who cares about them eh? they fall ever further behind in schools and educattion and young men earn way less than young women on average and of course male suicides are 4 times the rate and womens mental health gets over 10 times as much money spent on it too..The double standards are appalling and this proves yet again feminists do not want equality they want to live by different sets of rules which put womens rights as far more important than mens

Own the Day’ is all about empowering women and inspiring confidence,

disgusting sexism

:clap1: at the Truth for exposing this shame in advertising

Are you kidding me? You are talking about "discrimination against men" while unfortunately, we live in a society where women are considered inferior and have many less opportunities in every single sector? Please stop it, it's ridiculous. This "sexism against males thing" doesn't even exist. You've made it up.

we have a woman PM

what on earth are you on about?

Please speak clearly, I can't understand what you are trying to say. We are not all native English speakers here, you know.

While this tread is a bit of a reach... sexism has negative effects both men and women and just because men's issues are not talked about doesn't mean they don't exist.

Yes....I am sure LT and the truth agree...that product advertising, marketing and labeling should all remain gender neutral.... and gender bias either way should end

1960s

this is 2016

... and there are still many many many misogynists.

I have seen YouTube comments like "Women should just cook and do the housework. The most they can do is give blowjobs, they can't do anything better."

This type of comments get posted nowadays. Yes, that's right. In 2016.

these adverts have really challenged my security as a self-identified male, thanks for bringing it up

The BonMarche one is really stupid though.

by violently attacking men?

Yes I am 100% deadly serious, men are more discriminated against in british society than women. Women get 10 times more money spent on their health, men commit suicide at 4 times the rate, men die younger by 5 years across the entire western world, almost 50% of men grow up fatherless, fathers lose custody in over 80% of divorce cases, and over 80% lose their homes too, boys are light years behind girls at every level of education and women under 30 earn considerably more on average than men...This casual misandry such as this advert actually advocates violence against men. More mothers than fathers are violently abusive to their children. This is simply not reported onn mainstream news anymore because the rise of fascist feminism which basically disables all free speech that involves criticizing the fmeinist agenda.

I agree with the Truth.If we are going to allow violence against men in advertising then we need more violence against women too.Or better still no violence against anyone.There's a novel idea

no violence against anyone, amen

I agree with the OP. The violence ad especially is horrific. You speak of feminists though...getting ads banned and such. Can I ask one thing? Why do you expect feminists (who are mainly about womens rights) to stand up for men? In theory I agree that fighting for equality in general is the way forward, but surely there should be men standing up for themselves rather than expecting women to do it...if that makes sense? Why is there no male' equivalent of feminists? You could maybe start off such a movement, given your dedication to pointing out how males are disadvantaged?

You're looking for the "Meninist" movement, Vicky, and it's a desperately sad bunch of morons.

Oh it does exist? Have never heard of them. Clearly don't work as hard as feminists do on womens issues then?

"Feminists" are about gender equality.

No because "meninism" is a farce. I'm sure the truth sees himself as one.

The way the OP worded it I expected a wife to be beating her husband within an inch of his life.

The Bonmarche ad is bloody awful but "violence against men" please. If you want to be taken seriously try finding some actual examples instead of this nitpicking crap.

And the second example is stereotypical to both sexes. The man burping, lazy and childish. The woman a harridan, constantly cleaning and hard done by. It works both ways.

Stop trying to make "Middle Class White Straight Male Lives Matter" happen.

Maybe. I do feel feminists would fight a hell of a lot harder for something that effects women though. But apparently these days women are equal, if not moreso than poor men?

I shall remember this the next time some loser pinches my arse just because I happen to be wearing tight trousers..or assumes I am dumb because I do not possess a penis. Or talks over me. And so on. I should feel lucky I guess.

men arent allowed to speak on these matters simple. if they do they lose their jobs and get smeared and and slandered. The culture is now obscenely biased towards women

are you really saying only men talk over women and never the other way around? are you seriously saying if a man touches you , you dont have the legal right to report it to the police and get him arrested?

Can you provide an example of a man speaking out against sexism and losing his job?

Despite what you have been told, in the western world today almost all legal and lethal sexual discrimination is against men.
Men are 97% of combat fatalities.
Men pay 97% of Alimony
Men make 94% of work suicides.
Men make up 93% of work fatalities.
Men make up 81% of all war deaths.
Men lose custody in 84% of divorces.
80% of all suicides are men.
77% of homicide victims are men.
89% of men will be the victim of at least one violent crime.
Men are over twice as victimised by strangers as women.
Men are 165% more likely to be convicted than women.
Men get 63% longer sentences than women for the same crime.
Court bias against men is at least 6 times bigger than racial bias.
Males are discriminated against in school and University.
Boys face vastly more corporal punishment than girls.
60-80% of the homeless are men.
Women's Cancers receive 15 times more funding than men's
At least 10% of fathers are victims of paternity fraud.
One third of all fathers in the USA have lost custody of children, most are expected to pay for this.
40-70% of domestic violence is against men however less than 1% of domestic violence shelter spaces are for men.

So that's a no then? :hee:

Genuine feminists (i.e. liberal feminists and not radical ones, like most seem to assume all feminists are these days) support, fight and believe in the emancipation of women to achieve equality with men, and vice versa. It isn't about women surpassing men at all costs as some seem to believe, but more about bringing genuine equality to both sexes. This would thus - and does- actually include supporting issues which disproportionally affect men.

The OP is actually correct. There are very real issues that affect men more than women and they do need addressing, and in fact a lot of them stem from the socially constructed gender roles society has created (oh btw that reminds me, sorry I haven't got round to reading that link yet but I've been busy with moving back to uni - shall do it soon). That said, the truth seems to believe that discrimination and societal issues are a competition and exist in isolation of each other when that isn't the case at all (some reading on intersectionality would be useful). There are problems affecting men, women, homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual, disabled people, etc etc to varying degrees - and they all need addressing.

THE REAL MONEY GAP.
Men earn 61.5% of all income but only account for 25% of domestic spending. Men only spend 40% of what they earn after tax. In contrast women make up 38.5% of all income but control 75% of domestic spending, women on average spend 90%

TAX & HEALTHCARE DISCRIMINATION
Men pay over 70% of income tax but the vast majority of public spending is on services for women. There is more money spent on breast cancer than lung cancer and prostate cancer combined, despite the fact that lung cancer alone has 3-4 times more fatalities than breast cancer. A man's chance of getting cancer is 44% and 23% of men will die from cancer, 38% of women get cancer and 19% die. Yet there is vastly more money spent on cancer for women, this is lethal discrimination. Women pay 60% less tax despite spending 300% more in domestic spending than men. Women also consume two third of public spending, there are 3 times the amount of gender specific health services for women than men despite the fact that for equal increases in health spending a man's life expectancy rate increases nearly twice as much as a woman's.

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
There are hundreds of surveys which shows women are as violent if not more violent than men in domestic violence cases. Men get arrested in 85% of all arrests but its estimated that Women are the perpetrators in most Domestic Violence cases. Most reciprocal violence is started by women and 70% of non reciprocal violence is perpetrated by women. Women however only get arrested in 15% of all DV arrests. This example of 572 different studies covering 371,600 people demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
More men than women were victims of intimate partner physical violence and over 40% of severe physical violence was directed at men. http://www.batteredmen.com/NISVS.htm
Despite this though,99.3% of DV shelter spaces are for women and even men who report violence against them by women are arrested far more often than the woman who is attacking them

Is the obvious answer to this not...men more often work while women stay home with the kids and run the household...thus take care of bills and shopping and such? In MOST cases. That also accounts for in divorce proceedings women getting (more often than not) residency while men have visitation rights.

I may well be missing something though

You realise domestic spending means what is spent on the household/for the family? So it's not women going spending men's money on shoes. But her still having the responsibility to go and get the food in, pay the bills for the family including the men.

Think about things.

I disagree with all forms of violence. However the DV violence stats you quote seem to miss out that

Domestic abuse: Will affect 1 in 4 women and 1 in 6 men in their lifetime. Leads to, on average, two women being murdered each week and 30 men per year.

And again, womens refuges and such are set up by women for women. There is nothing stopping people opening mens DV refuges? Also do your percentages include hostels that say they are primarily for women, but do accept men? We have a local place that is called a 'womens refuge' but accept anyone who is a victim of DV...just wodnering if this would be classed under only female or not?

I find the percentages astronomically high though for violence against men if those are correct. However the 2 per week v 30 per year kind of says...when men are violent the woman comes off a lot worse off. Not that that makes any of it any better/worse though

Side note, unless ONS have released new figures, seems your stats are wrong? https://www.theguardian.com/society/...s-figures-show

Still a ridiculously high amount of DV in general though. And it is surprising that so much of it is against men.

LOL yeah, I would be taken really seriously for reporting a butt pinch to the police? :laugh: And no, of course I am not saying only men talk over women and never the other way around...but it happens more (ina professional environment) that men speak over women, and men are more listened to than women simply for being men. About technical stuff women can never know apparently as they are sweet little flowers that should be in the kitchen, not working in a 'mans environment'. Hell, last year I was in the apple shop and saw some guy umming and ahhing about some ridiculously pricey tablet he was wanting and asked for help, a woman came over and he said he wanted someone who 'actually knows what they are talking about' and beckoned a bloke over, who told the guy that the woman was actually best qualified and would be better to answer. That was quite funny to witness..and its definitely not the only instance of this kind of thing I have seen :p

Indeed.

About feminism...its not something I really know anything about, always just assumed that feminism was about fighting for womens rights tbh. So I bow to your superior knowledge :laugh:

They do matter:bawling:

Government Sponsored Sexism
1) Real sexism is almost no shelters for male victims of domestic violence.
2) Real sexism is men getting harsher punishments for the same crime.
3) Real sexism is countries with compulsorily military service for men.
4) Real sexism, courts that takes children from fathers based on gender.
5) Men cannot even vote or get citizenship without enrolling for the draft.
6) Real sexism is numerous government departments dealing with women's issues but none dealing with men's issues.
7) Male infant circumcision/genital mutilation is legal and performed widely and even completely socially accepted but female genital mutilation is not.
8) A young boy raped by a woman can be forced to pay child support to his rapist if she gets pregnant, that's real sexism.
9) Many countries do not even recognize female on male rape. It can maximally only amount to “sexual assault” that's real sexism.
10) Real sexism is having no special laws like VAWA to protect men, even though men are the majority of victims of violent crime.
11) There are drives to fill quotas for women for the high paid roles but not in the dangerous jobs dominated by men, thats real sexism.
12) In the army, police, fire service or any other position women have to meet much lower physical standards than men.
13) Real sexism is services for men only given a fraction of the funds that services for women are given at a government and a social level.
14) For the same crime, irrespective of the gender of the offender, the perpetrator gets more punishment if the victim is female rather than male.
15) Most divorce laws are skewed against men, men can lose half his properly, money and children to a woman who decides to leave him.
He is expected to pay for this betrayal, especially if he has already provided for and supported her, this is real sexism