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Amy Jade 05-11-2016 02:03 PM

Police Officer gives faeces sandwich to homeless man
 
http://nypost.com/2016/11/05/cop-fir...-homeless-man/

This makes me so sad

I hope the poor homeless man never ate it :(

Crimson Dynamo 05-11-2016 02:05 PM

wow Subway are going downhill

Alf 05-11-2016 02:40 PM

Beggars can't be choosers.

UserSince2005 05-11-2016 02:57 PM

lol

kirklancaster 05-11-2016 03:00 PM

I think that the biggest positives to take from this disgusting act, is that 3 other DECENT officers reported this filthy get, and that the Police Authority acted promptly and correctly.

reece(: 05-11-2016 04:04 PM

Sack the thug

Cherie 05-11-2016 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9044901)
Beggars can't be choosers.

Sorry but :joker:


Glad he got sacked

Jamie89 05-11-2016 05:12 PM

Disgusting, poor man :sad:

Northern Monkey 05-11-2016 05:38 PM

Wanker.I hope somebody rubs his toothbrush on their arsehole

Amy Jade 05-11-2016 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 9044906)
lol

You're disgusting. The poor guy is homeless and took what he presumed was food off somebody we are meant to trust. Nothing about it is funny but then you've made the fact you're only here trolling pretty obvious for a while now

arista 05-11-2016 05:49 PM

AMY this is not UK
its USA

Crimson Dynamo 05-11-2016 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 9045027)
You're disgusting. The poor guy is homeless and took what he presumed was food off somebody we are meant to trust. Nothing about it is funny but then you've made the fact you're only here trolling pretty obvious for a while now

cool your jets the member was loling at what alf said not about this story from the USA (and you should have stated USA in your thread title)

T* 05-11-2016 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 9044906)
lol

:rolleyes:

arista 05-11-2016 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9045025)
Wanker.I hope somebody rubs his toothbrush on their arsehole


He Got fired
California USA

Maru 05-11-2016 06:44 PM

I'm glad to have read that his peers reported him for two reasons... 1) It was reported. 2) That those details even were printed by the press.

Personally, I think this officer should be charged. They can and do ask for additional charges to be filed against inmates when they throw piss, defecated material or other bodily fluids onto detention officers, which happens more than you think. It is considered an assault since it is a transfer of bodily fluids, which carries some medical risk.

We get letters from the State of Texas and the insurance companies for Workman's comps. My husband usually has to talk to them by phone to resolve it, so they are usually taken relatively seriously.

Amy Jade 05-11-2016 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 9045029)
AMY this is not UK
its USA

I didn't know there had to be a header making it clear where it happened?

MB. 05-11-2016 06:46 PM

Pretty sure the New York Post link in the first post makes it clear enough Arista

Amy Jade 05-11-2016 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 9045083)
Pretty sure the New York Post link in the first post makes it clear enough Arista

You'd think so :shrug:

Shaun 05-11-2016 06:47 PM

Vermin.

arista 05-11-2016 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 9045088)
You'd think so :shrug:

No as people open the Thread from the bottom



So a USA
in the thread title is a Great Help Madame

arista 05-11-2016 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 9045080)
I didn't know there had to be a header making it clear where it happened?


its Not a Policy
or a Rule



Its a Assist
ask LT

Amy Jade 05-11-2016 07:22 PM

Yeah i won't be changing it.

arista 05-11-2016 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 9045276)
Yeah i won't be changing it.


OK
I am not holding a Gun to your head

hijaxers 05-11-2016 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 9045276)
Yeah i won't be changing it.

Where this happened is really of no consequence as a filthy disgusting act like this shouldn't be happening anywhere , especially by someone in his position , its bad enough people are homeless - nevermind demeaning them and treating them like filth ! Totally disgusts me .

kirklancaster 05-11-2016 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 9045518)
Where this happened is really of no consequence as a filthy disgusting act like this shouldn't be happening anywhere , especially by someone in his position , its bad enough people are homeless - nevermind demeaning them and treating them like filth ! Totally disgusts me .

My words too. It beggars belief why any civilised person would want to do this. :shrug:

arista 05-11-2016 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 9045518)
Where this happened is really of no consequence as a filthy disgusting act like this shouldn't be happening anywhere , especially by someone in his position , its bad enough people are homeless - nevermind demeaning them and treating them like filth ! Totally disgusts me .



I do not Agree
It would not be England


So it would have to be Nasty USA
or crazy China

Cherie 05-11-2016 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 9045570)
My words too. It beggars belief why any civilised person would want to do this. :shrug:

Aubrey spat in a sandwich and lots of people applauded, same difference :hee:

user104658 05-11-2016 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9045740)
Aubrey spat in a sandwich and lots of people applauded, same difference :hee:

:umm2: W... But...

...normal people don't have **** in their mouth, Cherie...

Amy Jade 05-11-2016 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9045740)
Aubrey spat in a sandwich and lots of people applauded, same difference :hee:

That is a totally different situation but barely anyone applauded that, a few sure but even her fans (myself included) thought it was disgusting.

joeysteele 05-11-2016 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 9044907)
I think that the biggest positives to take from this disgusting act, is that 3 other DECENT officers reported this filthy get, and that the Police Authority acted promptly and correctly.

Was coming in to say this, no need to now, I agree totally.

Ammi 06-11-2016 05:31 AM

...I remember reading a story/article once about a Youtuber who disguised himself as a homeless person and tried to give money to people as they passed him by...he was attempting to give something that would touch hearts and brighten days but his gesture was met with quite a lot of contempt...uggghhh, I don't need your money, I could buy and sell you in a moment/I drive a whatever expensive car etc, type thing....sadly the homeless..(anywhere in the world..)..are viewed in such a way as being 'less than human' by some people so it's really no shock in itself as cruel and awful as it is....what is the shock though is that it was a police officer who is meant to protect all citizens ..all being all and including the homeless who are some of the most vulnerable in society...it's right that he was sacked but is it not also a crime/what he did...an assault..?...maybe a prosecution is also appropriate...

Cherie 06-11-2016 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9045742)
:umm2: W... But...

...normal people don't have **** in their mouth, Cherie...

Normal people don't have other people's spit in their mouth either without consent. Both acts were awful.

kirklancaster 06-11-2016 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9045740)
Aubrey spat in a sandwich and lots of people applauded, same difference :hee:

:laugh: You have me hoisted upon my own petard Cherie, because - yes - I did kind of defend Aubrey, whom I am a huge fan of, but there are real differences between these two incidents and some mitigation in Aubrey's case, whereas there is none whatsoever in the cop's case.

1. Stephen Bear antagonized Aubrey (and the other females) with his deliberately nasty, misogynistic and bossy attitudes, so he was culpable in a contributory causal way to Aubrey's admittedly disgusting action.

2. The homeless man - based on the scant information available - did nothing to antagonize the cop and was a totally innocent victim of his disgusting act.

3. There is a huge difference in spit and feces - in potential risk to health by the transference of disease especially, as spit/saliva contains numerous antibacterial properties, whereas feces not only does not, but can actually contain harmful pathogens, hence the warnings to 'Wash Your Hands' after visiting a loo.

4. Although both acts can be said to be 'deliberate', Aubrey's act was more a an instant, opportunistic, 'spur of the moment' one, whereas the cop's actions were 'premeditated', and rather more complex in both preparation and execution - having to obtain the bread AND the fecal matter, prepare the sandwich and take it to the homeless man.

5. The 'victim' of Aubrey's disgusting act - Stephen Bear - later sanctioned her act by INVITING her to spit directly into his mouth, thereby eliminating the 'third party medium' which was the sandwich, but I don't see any reports that the homeless man later chased down the cop and asked him to shet straight into his mouth.:hee:

6. Lastly, but not least - I FECKING adore Aubrey, but I don't give a fecal sandwich for the cop, so I am biased. :laugh:

Cherie 06-11-2016 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 9046420)
:laugh: You have me hoisted upon my own petard Cherie, because - yes - I did kind of defend Aubrey, whom I am a huge fan of, but there are real differences between these two incidents and some mitigation in Aubrey's case, whereas there is none whatsoever in the cop's case.

1. Stephen Bear antagonized Aubrey (and the other females) with his deliberately nasty, misogynistic and bossy attitudes, so he was culpable in a contributory causal way to Aubrey's admittedly disgusting action.

2. The homeless man - based on the scant information available - did nothing to antagonize the cop and was a totally innocent victim of his disgusting act.

3. There is a huge difference in spit and feces - in potential risk to health by the transference of disease especially, as spit/saliva contains numerous antibacterial properties, whereas feces not only does not, but can actually contain harmful pathogens, hence the warnings to 'Wash Your Hands' after visiting a loo.

4. Although both acts can be said to be 'deliberate', Aubrey's act was more a an instant, opportunistic, 'spur of the moment' one, whereas the cop's actions were 'premeditated', and rather more complex in both preparation and execution - having to obtain the bread AND the fecal matter, prepare the sandwich and take it to the homeless man.

5. The 'victim' of Aubrey's disgusting act - Stephen Bear - later sanctioned her act by INVITING her to spit directly into his mouth, thereby eliminating the 'third party medium' which was the sandwich, but I don't see any reports that the homeless man later chased down the cop and asked him to shet straight into his mouth.:hee:

6. Lastly, but not least - I FECKING adore Aubrey, but I don't give a fecal sandwich for the cop, so I am biased. :laugh:

Fair dues Kirk, I wondered if you would recall :joker:

kirklancaster 06-11-2016 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9046425)
Fair dues Kirk, I wondered if you would recall :joker:

:laugh: Honestly Cherie? I WAS going to try to 'cock a deaf 'un' - but it is YOU we are talking about so I thought I might as well own up and come up with a good defence. :hee::hee:

Maru 06-11-2016 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 9046420)
:laugh: You have me hoisted upon my own petard Cherie, because - yes - I did kind of defend Aubrey, whom I am a huge fan of, but there are real differences between these two incidents and some mitigation in Aubrey's case, whereas there is none whatsoever in the cop's case.

1. Stephen Bear antagonized Aubrey (and the other females) with his deliberately nasty, misogynistic and bossy attitudes, so he was culpable in a contributory causal way to Aubrey's admittedly disgusting action.

2. The homeless man - based on the scant information available - did nothing to antagonize the cop and was a totally innocent victim of his disgusting act.

3. There is a huge difference in spit and feces - in potential risk to health by the transference of disease especially, as spit/saliva contains numerous antibacterial properties, whereas feces not only does not, but can actually contain harmful pathogens, hence the warnings to 'Wash Your Hands' after visiting a loo.

4. Although both acts can be said to be 'deliberate', Aubrey's act was more a an instant, opportunistic, 'spur of the moment' one, whereas the cop's actions were 'premeditated', and rather more complex in both preparation and execution - having to obtain the bread AND the fecal matter, prepare the sandwich and take it to the homeless man.

5. The 'victim' of Aubrey's disgusting act - Stephen Bear - later sanctioned her act by INVITING her to spit directly into his mouth, thereby eliminating the 'third party medium' which was the sandwich, but I don't see any reports that the homeless man later chased down the cop and asked him to shet straight into his mouth.:hee:

6. Lastly, but not least - I FECKING adore Aubrey, but I don't give a fecal sandwich for the cop, so I am biased. :laugh:

Spit falls squarely in the realm of "bodily fluids" that I mentioned in my previous post. It is seen as a health risk just like blood, semen, urine, poop, snot, etc... and they do charge people for transfer of spit... If they have an actual disease (such as HIV), then the charges would be higher to accommodate...

I know, because that happened to my husband, they spat in his face and and we got a workman's comp letter for it because he has to report it as an "injury". Investigations also added it to the list of their charges when they went back and reviewed the incident.

If you drink from someone elses glass willingly, that's a different matter.

Also on your point #1 and #2... I don't think that anything the homeless person could've done would've lessened the severity of this crime. However, that's my moral view on the situation, so not really an argument worth debating as we all have varying views on morality.

Now if you want an argument, if a homeless person was "particularly" rough or disrespectful (verbally) and accosted the office in some manner (let's say overtly racist or something)... then it doesn't then give the officer right to make it OK to give them a feces sandwich. That would not make it acceptable in the eyes of the law.

In the same vein, if an officer is racist and verbally abusive towards a suspect or inmate and then the inmate decides to throw feces at them... then that doesn't negate that charge in the eyes of the law either. Or urine, or spit, whatever...

So to me, pretty cut and clear... in the eyes of the law. Now for you and others, it may be more morally unacceptable because of the disparate class differences between these individuals... whereas Aubrey and Bear well... both willingly participating in a chronically obnoxious and raucous reality show... but this is where the logic ends for me and the emotional arguments begin. For me it's an emotional argument to weigh the two against each other morally speaking... so it's not really a good argument as it is a strong feeling (i.e. emotional). Whereas I can understand it in a way if we were saying apples versus oranges compared to the difference in social positions of these individuals (one having a lot more authority over the other, etc)... and I've learned never to try to re-convince someone on their strongly felt "feelings"...so for me, I just accept it's a difference in opinion.

I will add a little bit more weight on your side by saying... in the case of where these people are charged in the detention facility, it is densely populated (read: overpopulated) and has a **** circulation system (no ventilation). We call it the city crud, because everything gets in there and everyone catches it every year... my husband never used to call out of work, neither did my uncle when they got sick... and they learned to take off work because that **** will be put you in the ER in a minute if you're not vigilant in taking care of yourself. So I guess add that to your argument... there is certainly a lot more inherent medical risks within that population for other reasons as well.

Edit: Anyway, the DA is not going to charge every single incident unless there is a huge moral proponent to it because to do so is wreckless, would frustrate the public by way of wasted tax dollars and and people in admin would probably say it is overcharging.. But we have to be careful about using moral arguments... because we end up legitimizing some of the acts we may not necessarily say we are .... such as incidents where people are provoking someone and and that person fights back. Assault is assault.

user104658 06-11-2016 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 9046420)
eliminating the 'third party medium' which was the sandwich

:joker:

Beso 06-11-2016 05:51 PM

He should be thankfull it wasnt a mcdonalds.

kirklancaster 06-11-2016 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9047043)
He should be thankfull it wasnt a mcdonalds.

:laugh2:

Maru 06-11-2016 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9047043)
He should be thankfull it wasnt a mcdonalds.

Interesting that you mention that... there is a McDonalds right where the homeless pander in my section of town. Anyway, I really feel bad for them that their pander spot is next to that particular one. I went to it once... and I won't go there again... because literally it is located in a bird kingdom of Poop... I went there out of pure starvation one night to get some fries, and that was the first time in YEARS since I'd been to one... I don't eat much cheap fast food anymore...anyway, it was 3-4am in the morning and the birds were just chirp chirp chirp-ing along. It sounded like the bird kingdom at the zoo. Anyway now I associate McDonalds with bird ****.


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