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Crimson Dynamo 28-11-2016 09:03 AM

Unisex toilets at London primary school spark outrage among parents
 
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An east London primary school has provoked a furious backlash from parents after it introduced unisex toilets for pupils over the age of eight.

The controversy arose after a new £12m building at Leytonstone’s Buxton School was equipped with the gender-neutral bathrooms.

Despite a petition protesting against the new toilets having nearly 700 signatures on Sunday, the school’s headteacher Kath Wheeler welcomed the change.


Many parents also voiced their disappointment that the school did not consult them.

One wrote: "This is a terrible idea and has many potential risk to unisex toilets. I am very upset that the school did not even have the decency to consult with the parents of the children, this came as a shock when I was informed by a mother. I would like to know who would be held responsible should there be an incident?”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7441841.html

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A good idea or a waste of resources?

Niamh. 28-11-2016 09:25 AM

In Primary schools here, each classroom usually has a couple of toilets in the actual classroom which are just cubicles anyway, alot of work places have unisex toilets which are individual cubicles, alot of supermarkets toilets are unisex individual rooms/cubicles :shrug:

Withano 28-11-2016 09:30 AM

Just a bunch of complete whiners who are insesitive of those who may not identify as exlusively male, exclusively female or have opposing genders and sexes. The option is given, it isnt compulsary

"Everyone should be able to use the toilet in peace whether in unisex or single sex toilets. Hopefully the kids will be taught to be respectful of each other, whether in the toilets or not," one parent said.

Ms Wheeler, who is now inviting parents to take tours of the new facility, reminded them that single sex toilets were still available for use.

“No pupil has to use a unisex toilet if they do not want to,” she told the East London and West Essex Guardian."

Niamh. 28-11-2016 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9076883)
Just a bunch of complete whiners who are insesitive of those who may not identify as exlusively male, exclusively female or have opposing genders and sexes. The option is given, it isnt compulsary

"Everyone should be able to use the toilet in peace whether in unisex or single sex toilets. Hopefully the kids will be taught to be respectful of each other, whether in the toilets or not," one parent said.

Ms Wheeler, who is now inviting parents to take tours of the new facility, reminded them that single sex toilets were still available for use.

“No pupil has to use a unisex toilet if they do not want to,” she told the East London and West Essex Guardian."

What's the actual issue then? :laugh:

Ammi 28-11-2016 09:48 AM

....hmmm, I would question whether parents weren't informed in that all new school builds/large extensions have to have consultation meetings involving all included in what's proposed and all included meaning parents as well.../we had two consultation parent meetings when we had our new build and it wasn't anywhere near the expense of this one...with so many pupils at a school that's all they could do anyway, was to invite parents to these meetings and they must have done because it's a requirement.../anyway, starting in our homes, we all have unisex toilets and children are accustomed to that plus most child sexual abuse happens in the home anyway but I doubt a family all sharing a bathroom contributes to that whatsoever and boy/girl loos are always available as well in schools...(or all I know of..)...

Smithy 28-11-2016 10:26 AM

One wrote: "This is a terrible idea and has many potential risk to unisex toilets


Like.....?

arista 28-11-2016 10:31 AM

Does it Auto Clean?

LT


Then the School saves on Old cleaners etc.

Northern Monkey 28-11-2016 11:31 AM

If it's just an extra option then i don't see the problem tbh.

Jamesy 28-11-2016 11:58 AM

Don't all new schools have unisex toilets? 3 new schools built near me the past few years have all had unisex toilets installed, seems to be the common thing with new school designs... I assume this has only hit the news because it's in London...

Anyhow does it really matter, unisex toilets are usually fine for kids, it's when they get to their later years it becomes an issue (like in work places etc).

Tom4784 28-11-2016 12:02 PM

Just a bunch of whining parents with nothing better to do

user104658 28-11-2016 12:12 PM

Xe xi xo xum, I smell the blood of some cishet scum!

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In other news, if they are individual locking cubicles why does it matter at all?

jaxie 28-11-2016 12:17 PM

Boys toilet was always gross at school. Not sure I'd want to share with the stinkers!

Crimson Dynamo 28-11-2016 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9076945)
Xe xi xo xum, I smell the blood of some cishet scum!

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In other news, if they are individual locking cubicles why does it matter at all?

why install them at all?

arista 28-11-2016 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9076939)
Just a bunch of whining parents with nothing better to do



Give Them
Burger King free meal vouchers
Dezzy

Niamh. 28-11-2016 12:54 PM

Deleted some unnecessarily rude posts in here

arista 28-11-2016 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9076945)
Xe xi xo xum, I smell the blood of some cishet scum!

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In other news, if they are individual locking cubicles why does it matter at all?


I want robots to clean the bogs
Spray Water High temp etc.
Make sure any kid is out of there, TS

The Future is Outstanding

arista 28-11-2016 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9076881)
In Primary schools here, each classroom usually has a couple of toilets in the actual classroom which are just cubicles anyway, alot of work places have unisex toilets which are individual cubicles, alot of supermarkets toilets are unisex individual rooms/cubicles :shrug:


That is a good way of doing it.

Beso 28-11-2016 03:28 PM

stupid idea.

Brillopad 29-11-2016 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9076939)
Just a bunch of whining parents with nothing better to do

Says a non-parent.

Brillopad 29-11-2016 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 9076979)
I want robots to clean the bogs
Spray Water High temp etc.
Make sure any kid is out of there, TS

The Future is Outstanding

You have a thing about robots. They belong in movies.

Crimson Dynamo 29-11-2016 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9078591)
Says a non-parent.

yep

:rolleyes:

Withano 29-11-2016 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9078591)
Says a non-parent.

Non-parents cant correctly identify whiney-parents because?..

Brillopad 29-11-2016 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9078604)
Non-parents cant correctly identify whiney-parents because?..

You have to have been there...

Withano 29-11-2016 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9078606)
You have to have been there...

Interesting does this work for everything ever? Can we identify pets who are in pain? We've never been dogs. Bad veg? Never been a vegetable. Or is it exclusive to whiney parents?
Some parents in the story were fine with the idea. Can we identify the non-whiney ones?

LaLaLand 29-11-2016 07:35 PM

Our toilets in Primary School (Infants) were unisex, all cubicles. No problem at all.

Brillopad 29-11-2016 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9078609)
Interesting does this work for everything ever? Can we identify pets who are in pain? We've never been dogs. Bad veg? Never been a vegetable. Or is it exclusive to whiney parents?

Perhaps you could answer that question in about 10 years or so, it's about perspective.

As a previous poster said as long as it was a choice and not enforced.

Withano 29-11-2016 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9078615)
Perhaps you could answer that question in about 10 years or so, it's about perspective.

As a previous poster said as long as it was a choice and not enforced.

It is a choice lol. That is why the parents are so whiney. Perhaps you can answer the question after reading the article. As a previous poster said, it's all about perspective.

Niamh. 29-11-2016 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9078606)
You have to have been there...

I'm a parent and I agree with him

Amy Jade 29-11-2016 09:25 PM

If I had kids I wouldn't mind this at all, it's actually a good way to talk about how little boys and little girls are different and have different needs etc

Brillopad 30-11-2016 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9078715)
I'm a parent and I agree with him

Good for you, clearly many don't and it should never be enforced.

Northern Monkey 30-11-2016 09:23 AM

Thinking about it.I think the toilets at my eldests nusery were unisex.They shared with the reception kids.No problems at all.I think once they get older they shouldn't have to have mixed bathrooms but when they're young it seems to work fine.But if this is just an extra bathroom then there's nothing to moan about really.

user104658 30-11-2016 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9076939)
Just a bunch of whining parents with nothing better to do

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9078715)
I'm a parent and I agree with him

Have to admit, I am utterly sick of whinging parents at the moment. There's a facebook group for parents of kids at my daughter's school and some of the people on there... ffs... all I can say is, I am bored a LOT at home... but I will NEVER, EVER have that sort of time on my hands. The petty, tedious **** they whine about... constantly.

Niamh. 30-11-2016 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9079140)
Good for you, clearly many don't and it should never be enforced.

But what exactly is being enforced, they are still keeping the single sex toilets? :shrug:

Niamh. 30-11-2016 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9079216)
Have to admit, I am utterly sick of whinging parents at the moment. There's a facebook group for parents of kids at my daughter's school and some of the people on there... ffs... all I can say is, I am bored a LOT at home... but I will NEVER, EVER have that sort of time on my hands. The petty, tedious **** they whine about... constantly.

Ah stop, this is why I was never one to hang around the school gates :worry:

user104658 30-11-2016 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9079252)
Ah stop, this is why I was never one to hang around the school gates :worry:

It's getting worse and worse, really bitchy :/. Some poor woman asked a question about raffle tickets on Facebook and it decended into nasty comments so quickly that she ended up removing herself from the group!

And its a really nice school, too... I live in a pretty "well off" little village so it's all middle / upper middle class parents... But actually maybe that's the problem. Bored mums with no real problems to worry about, so they get all worked up about raffle tickets, bake sales and people parking in the wrong place :joker:.

Niamh. 30-11-2016 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9079254)
It's getting worse and worse, really bitch :/. Some poor woman asked a question about raffle tickets on Facebook and it decended into nasty comments so quickly that she ended up removing herself from the group!

And its a really nice school, too... I live in a pretty "well off" little village so it's all middle / upper middle class parents... But actually maybe that's the problem. Bored mums with no real problems to worry about, so they get all worked up about raffle tickets, bake sales and people parking in the wrong place :joker:.

Yeah that's about the size of it, I live in an area like yours but I grew up in a not so affluent area, there's issues in both but so so different. What's funny though the few parents I did become friendly with (and this was not on purpose) are all people not originally from the area and most are from a similar area to where I came from :laugh:

Brillopad 30-11-2016 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9079250)
But what exactly is being enforced, they are still keeping the single sex toilets? :shrug:

That is what I mean, that as long as they are keeping the single-sex toilets and the kids have a choice. As long as that remains the case I don't see too many objections, although those not comfortable with it have a right to feel that way.

Honestly I feel that some who are very vocal when they feel they are being singled-out for not conforming to the 'norm' are just as guilty of doing that when the boot is on the other foot. Just goes to show how 'fragile' their sense of right and wrong can be in my opinion.

Niamh. 30-11-2016 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9079489)
That is what I mean, that as long as they are keeping the single-sex toilets and the kids have a choice. As long as that remains the case I don't see too many objections, although those not comfortable with it have a right to feel that way.

Honestly I feel that some who are very vocal when they feel they are being singled-out for not conforming to the 'norm' are just as guilty of doing that when the boot is on the other foot. Just goes to show how 'fragile' their sense of right and wrong can be in my opinion.

But it is the case and it still "provoked a furious backlash" from parents :shrug:

Tom4784 30-11-2016 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9078591)
Says a non-parent.

Whether I have kids or not is irrelevant to the discussion.

Brillopad 30-11-2016 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9079504)
But it is the case and it still "provoked a furious backlash" from parents :shrug:

I don't know - maybe they didn't realise there was a choice.

Although I can still see how there might be some concerns as, depending on the ages involved, cases of boys trying to 'peek' on the girls.


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