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Niamh. 24-01-2017 09:58 AM

Donald Trump signs anti-abortion advice law surrounded by men
 
in one of his first acts as President.........


Welcome to the 1920's :worry:


Donald Trump today banned the US government from giving funding to health groups that offer abortion counselling.

The President signed an order reinstating the “global gag rule”, which denies US foreign aid to groups who "perform or actively promote" terminations.

He was photographed signing the bill in the Oval Office, flanked by eight members of his staff, all of whom are men.

Vice President and anti-abortion campaigner Mike Pence, chief of staff Reince Priebus, his son-in-law Jared Kushner and top advisor and former far-right website owner Steve Bannon were all present.

There did not appear to be any women present for the signing.

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joeysteele 24-01-2017 10:00 AM

Shocking.

the truth 24-01-2017 10:03 AM

lets hope it allows more innocent harmless healthy babies the chance to live their lives

Niamh. 24-01-2017 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9175614)
lets hope it allows more innocent harmless healthy babies the chance to live their lives

Innocent harmless healthy babies don't form until well into a pregnancy, before that it's alot of cells. Women should have control over their bodies not be told what they can and can't do by a bunch of old men

Withano 24-01-2017 10:08 AM

The guys just an idiot. Hes ancient, old fashioned, and honestly thick. And so is anybody who agrees this was a great move by a great man. One week in and America is fifty years back.
I was more than prepared to give him a chance, I cant help but think its going to get even worse, this man is stupid.

the truth 24-01-2017 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9175615)
Innocent harmless healthy babies don't form until well into a pregnancy, before that it's alot of cells. Women should have control over their bodies not be told what they can and can't do by a bunch of old men

Thats a sexist ageist post:nono: This is about the rights of babies to live a live, millions of them. If the mother is healthy and hasnt been raped then the rights of the unborn baby is more important than the mother

Niamh. 24-01-2017 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9175623)
Thats a sexist ageist post:nono: This is about the rights of babies to live a live, millions of them. If the mother is healthy and hasnt been raped then the rights of the unborn baby is more important than the mother

So if you think abortion is murder, I mean truly believe that then why is it ok to murder a baby if the woman was raped?

Withano 24-01-2017 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9175614)
lets hope it allows more innocent harmless healthy babies the chance to live their lives

Your acting as if the abortion is the beginning of the problem. Kind of like how a 5 year old might see it. Perhaps dive into a few minutes of critical thinking before your next post.
Rape is often a problem. Men need to stop that. Pay divide, health concerns, the list is honestly endless.
Each case is different, the problem never starts with abortion and blame should never be put there unless youre a 5 year old with a very basic outlook on the world around you. its the things that lead up to the abortion.
Donald Trump thinks this way because he hasnt had an education for 50 odd years. This is the first of many lessons to come about why we shouldnt put an underqualified man in charge, his competitors would have had experience in researching and debating this topic. The majority would come to the same conclusion that fits in with modern society. Donald did not.
Donald hasnt had an education in 50 years, a 5 year old has barely ever been educated. What is your excuse?

Kizzy 24-01-2017 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9175632)
So if you think abortion is murder, I mean truly believe that then why is it ok to murder a baby if the woman was raped?

That would be an ecumenical matter!!

In all seriousness, this man is truly on a path of destruction and we have a front row seat, I was discussing on another thread about long fought for rights, this man with one swipe of a pen has rendered those rights null and void.
The question is, what's next?...

Niamh. 24-01-2017 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9175643)
That would be an ecumenical matter!!

In all seriousness, this man is truly on a path of destruction and we have a front row seat, I was discussing on another thread about long fought for rights, this man with one swipe of a pen has rendered those rights null and void.
The question is, what's next?...

mmhhmm, it's a scary time in the world. It still baffles me how any woman could have ever voted for such a sexist dinosaur like him

y.winter 24-01-2017 10:27 AM

In other news: MTV has renewed Teen Mom for four more seasons.

Good luck to America...

Niamh. 24-01-2017 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by y.winter (Post 9175649)
In other news: MTV has renewed Teen Mom for four more seasons.

Good luck to America...

Maybe he's got a stake in that show or something :think:

the truth 24-01-2017 10:37 AM

Delighted tens of millions of innocent unborn babies will now get a better chance to live. Amazed some here don't see it from their point of view? Women and men, need to be better educated, need better support , need better access to contraception, need better advice and time and options such as having their baby fostered or adopted. Parents who have abortions for reasons other than rape, incest or health risks, often say they regret having their baby killed , for the rest of their lives. Give more support, more knowledge, more time, more education, more options, no doubt they would in many cases allow the baby a chance to live. Lets hope that is the end result of this move by trump. Put more money into supporting the babies being allowed to live. Thats the truly humane thing to do.

Niamh. 24-01-2017 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9175632)
So if you think abortion is murder, I mean truly believe that then why is it ok to murder a baby if the woman was raped?

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9175674)
delighted tens of millions of innocebt unborn babies will now get a better chance to live. amazed some hete don't see it from their point of view

ehem?

Kizzy 24-01-2017 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9175648)
mmhhmm, it's a scary time in the world. It still baffles me how any woman could have ever voted for such a sexist dinosaur like him

Me too, mind you the recent media spotlight on consent here is worrying... there have been a lot of polls and discussions on chat shows about whether women who drink are at fault if they are assaulted, or if the way women dress could be a green light to a potential abuser...
An ill wind is blowing.

Niamh. 24-01-2017 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9175683)
Me too, mind you the recent media spotlight on consent here is worrying... there have been a lot of polls and discussions on chat shows about whether women who drink are at fault if they are assaulted, or if the way women dress could be a green light to a potential abuser...
An ill wind is blowing.

yup like I said welcome to the 1920's

Tom4784 24-01-2017 01:32 PM

Any woman that supports Trump has no self respect.

Alf 24-01-2017 02:09 PM

He's not stopping abortion, he's just saying you have to pay for it yourself, instead of everyone else paying for you.

Ronald. 24-01-2017 02:11 PM

Niamh very good posts I agree. R.

Niamh. 24-01-2017 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9176110)
He's not stopping abortion, he's just saying you have to pay for it yourself, instead of everyone else paying for you.

small steps I think, it'll end up costing the tax payer more I reckon when they end up having to support single teenage parents instead....although maybe he'll get some workhouses open to take care of that?

Niamh. 24-01-2017 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldrogers (Post 9176116)
Niamh very good posts I agree. R.

Thank You Ronald Rogers

arista 24-01-2017 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 9175606)
Shocking.

Not For USA


There will be some states that will
ignore this new rule

the truth 24-01-2017 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9176015)
Any woman that supports Trump has no self respect.

That statement is divisive and sexist and anti democratic :nono:53% of white women voted trump, over 40% of all women voted trump. american women are smart, they know he will do an infinitely better job with the economy and trade which in turn will help everyone, men and women.

the truth 24-01-2017 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9176119)
small steps I think, it'll end up costing the tax payer more I reckon when they end up having to support single teenage parents instead....although maybe he'll get some workhouses open to take care of that?

since when do liberals care about tax payers money? everytime they run a country the economy goes bankrupt

arista 24-01-2017 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9176110)
He's not stopping abortion, he's just saying you have to pay for it yourself, instead of everyone else paying for you.


Thank you Alf
FACTS at last

Niamh. 24-01-2017 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9175632)
So if you think abortion is murder, I mean truly believe that then why is it ok to murder a baby if the woman was raped?

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9176126)
since when do liberals care about tax payers money? everyone they run a country the economy goes bankrupt

.

Tom4784 24-01-2017 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9176122)
That statement is divisive and sexist and anti democratic :nono:53% of white women voted trump, over 40% of all women voted trump. american women are smart, they know he will do an infinitely better job with the economy and trade which in turn will help everyone, men and women.

Anyone that supports someone that is trying to strangle their rights is a ****ing idiot.

No self respecting woman should ever support Trump. It'd be like me supporting a candidate that wants to destroy LGBT rights.

arista 24-01-2017 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9176015)
Any woman that supports Trump has no self respect.


You do not get it.


Those Women that voted trump
want jobs for their husband's , again.


And the Jobs are Returning To America


Feck Mexico.


Life Is To Short.

Niamh. 24-01-2017 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 9176134)
You do not get it.


Those Women that voted trump
want jobs for their husband's , again.


And the Jobs are Returning To America


Feck Mexico.


Life Is To Short.

For their husbands is it, while they make the dinner and iron his shirts? aaahhh it's clear now Arista :laugh:

the truth 24-01-2017 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9176133)
Anyone that supports someone that is trying to strangle their rights is a ****ing idiot.

No self respecting woman should ever support Trump. It'd be like me supporting a candidate that wants to destroy LGBT rights.

your filthy language says more about you than anyone else.
Your abuse of 53% of all american women is a disgrace and totally anti democratic and your hate for trump is totally misplaced and built on your total misunderstanding of what he is about

Amy Jade 24-01-2017 02:20 PM

I don't understand how anyone can support this?

It's far better to let the woman carrying decide to terminate a pregnancy rather than give birth to an unwanted child and give it up to suffer being unloved in the care system? Also I saw somebody bring up rape, what happens if say a young woman is raped and decided she obviously wants a termination but can't afford it? Should she just suffer for 9 months on top of the trauma of being raped?

Tom4784 24-01-2017 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9176143)
your filthy language says more about you than anyone else.
Your abuse of 53% of all american women is a disgrace and totally anti democratic and your hate for trump is totally misplaced and built on your total misunderstanding of what he is about

I understand him perfectly, you're the one drinking the cool aid because you have a rampant victim complex and a worrying lack of empathy for anyone who isn't a straight white man.

the truth 24-01-2017 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 9176148)
I don't understand how anyone can support this?

It's far better to let the woman carrying decide to terminate a pregnancy rather than give birth to an unwanted child and give it up to suffer being unloved in the care system? Also I saw somebody bring up rape, what happens if say a young woman is raped and decided she obviously wants a termination but can't afford it? Should she just suffer for 9 months on top of the trauma of being raped?

far better to kill a baby than allow it a chance to live? thats insane feminazi propoganda

the truth 24-01-2017 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9176149)
I understand him perfectly, you're the one drinking the cool aid because you have a rampant victim complex and a worrying lack of empathy for anyone who isn't a straight white man.

You have a rampant victim complex based on male hate and lies

Niamh. 24-01-2017 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9176151)
far better to kill a baby than allow it a chance to live? thats insane feminazi propoganda

Why is it ok to kill a baby who is the product of rape though? Surely there's never an ok time to murder a baby? :think:

lime 24-01-2017 02:24 PM

It has been a laugh listening to him during his campaign...his followers said "give him a chance" "he is not president yet"


Now he is president....He comes across as the biggest snowflake of all time..throwing a tantrum because more kids went to the other guys party,,,,Following this news...it's no longer funny...:worry:

Niamh. 24-01-2017 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lime (Post 9176160)
It has been a laugh listening to him during his campaign...his followers said "give him a chance" "he is not president yet"


Now he is president....He comes across as the biggest snowflake of all time..throwing a tantrum because more kids went to the other guys party,,,,Following this news...it's no longer funny...:worry:

Indeed Lime, He's easily triggered is The Donald :hehe:

Tom4784 24-01-2017 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9176151)
far better to kill a baby than allow it a chance to live? thats insane feminazi propoganda

A pile of amorphous cells is classed as a human now? Do you believe that clipping your nails is also an act of murder or is it only certain cells that you say are worthy of being classed as human?

Tom4784 24-01-2017 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9176152)
You have a rampant victim complex based on male hate and lies

You have never known prejudice, you will never know prejudice.

The fact you are basically saying 'I know you are but what am I?' shows how completely immature and out of touch you are with the world.

Amy Jade 24-01-2017 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9176151)
far better to kill a baby than allow it a chance to live? thats insane feminazi propoganda

It's not a baby when you are allowed to abort. Just cells.


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