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arista 09-03-2017 04:29 AM

Russia gives Beauty and Beast 16+ rating due to 'gay moment'
 
[The new version of the fairytale
has been judged unsuitable for children,
with some Russian critics calling
it 'perverted'.
Ultra-conservative lawmakers
previously tried to ban the film,
citing the controversial Russian law
that makes it illegal to disseminate
"gay propaganda" to minors.
The film had previously been
announced as 6+ in its Russian
promotional campaign.
In a letter to the Russian
culture minister, anti-gay politician
Vitaly Milonov called the Disney film
"blatant, shameless propaganda
of sin and perverted sexual relationships".]
http://e3.365dm.com/17/03/536x302/a5...20170301154759
[LeFou's love for Gaston has
been described as Disney's
'first exclusively gay moment']

http://news.sky.com/story/russia-giv...oment-10793863





Have not seen this Film yet
but Russia is saying its protecting children
they are Anti Gay as a nation, of course

LemonJam 09-03-2017 05:09 AM

He's definitely not the only gay disney character tho like...

http://img.clipd.com/filter:scale/qu...da0.png?mw=615
http://img.clipd.com/filter:scale/qu...69b.png?mw=615
https://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/20...1176038-29.gif
http://img.clipd.com/filter:scale/qu...b07.png?mw=615
http://img.clipd.com/filter:scale/qu...e71.png?mw=615
http://img.clipd.com/filter:scale/qu...38d.png?mw=615
http://img.clipd.com/filter:scale/qu...a31.png?mw=615

lets be real people

Jake. 09-03-2017 06:03 AM

it's also a film about a woman falling in love with an animal but that's Russia's priorities for you

Cal. 09-03-2017 06:41 AM

Pleakley <3

Cherie 09-03-2017 07:03 AM

Exactly, its kinda funny that it had to be pointed out that there was a gay character before they put the 16 rating on it

Crimson Dynamo 09-03-2017 07:11 AM

"Russia are now re-evaluating popular shows Are you being served and the character of Lukewarm in Porridge"

"Is it is also reported that popular LBGT mystery author Rob Innes will have his visa blocked, not due to the nature of his books but his resemblance to a young Lukewarm"

:omgno:

Marsh. 09-03-2017 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 9244178)
it's also a film about a woman falling in love with an animal but that's Russia's priorities for you

He's a man cursed to look like an animal you brute!

Marsh. 09-03-2017 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9244190)
"Russia are now re-evaluating popular shows Are you being served and the character of Lukewarm in Porridge"

"Is it is also reported that popular LBGT mystery author Rob Innes will have his visa blocked, not due to the nature of his books but his resemblance to a young Lukewarm"

:omgno:

Omfg

Niamh. 09-03-2017 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 9244178)
it's also a film about a woman falling in love with an animal but that's Russia's priorities for you

Was just going to say, Russias is fine with Bestiality propaganda though :hehe:

Marsh. 09-03-2017 10:04 AM

Not Russia thinking lafou is the beauty and Gaston the beast?

Withano 09-03-2017 10:26 AM

Russia so silly

Niamh. 09-03-2017 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9244215)
Russia so silly

Seriously.

They were going to buy the rights to Mrs. browns Boys too but Brendan O'Carroll refused to let them cut the gay couple in it. Not a fan of his but good for him for standing his ground

Withano 09-03-2017 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9244218)
Seriously.

They were going to by the rights to Mrs. browns Boys too but Brendan O'Carroll refused to let them cut the gay couple in it. Not a fan of his but good for him for standing his ground

Its mad! It doesnt really make sense how backwards the are regarding homosexuality - all their neighbouring countries are fine with it, and their education levels are really high on a global scale. Putin needs to go. Theyre just living in the same rut as they were when he started.

Niamh. 09-03-2017 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9244226)
Its mad! It doesnt really make sense how backwards the are regarding homosexuality - all their neighbouring countries are fine with it, and their education levels are really high on a global scale. Putin needs to go. Theyre just living in the same rut as they were when he started.

Yeah definitely. Also, events like the World Cup being held there is disgraceful, they shouldn't be allowed host it, their football is rife with racism and their fans were one of the only countries to cause so much trouble at the Euros last year

Denver 09-03-2017 11:08 AM

tbf though Disney has only done this scene as a stunt

Marsh. 09-03-2017 11:12 AM

Wow how dare they have gay characters.

That can only be a stunt. :rolleyes:

Denver 09-03-2017 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9244235)
Wow how dare they have gay characters.

That can only be a stunt. :rolleyes:

It is just not needing in this film if they want to do LGBT stuff make a new film.

It is just a 2 second kiss in a 2 hour film

Lostie! 09-03-2017 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9244240)
It is just not needing in this film if they want to do LGBT stuff make a new film.

It is just a 2 second kiss in a 2 hour film

So basically, if a movie wants to be inclusive about LGBT characters, they should make a big deal out of it because gay people can't just exist naturally alongside a story that isn't centered around their sexuality. Got it.

Denver 09-03-2017 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 9244241)
So basically, if a movie wants to be inclusive about LGBT characters, they should make a big deal out of it because gay people can't just exist naturally alongside a story that isn't centered around their sexuality. Got it.

It is a clear stunt Disney just want money that is there main aim.

Lostie! 09-03-2017 11:24 AM

Yeah, I reckon this movie would have been at serious risk of flopping before they added a minor gay character.

Denver 09-03-2017 11:25 AM

You can tell its a stunt when they sterotype the character 10 fold

Withano 09-03-2017 11:27 AM

Everyone pretending that one of Disneys alltime biggest stars wasnt a lesbian?


Denver 09-03-2017 11:31 AM

I dont get why everyone is fan girling Disney doing it either as they are like a decade late to the party

Tom4784 09-03-2017 11:36 AM

Because it's better to be late than not show up?

Would you rather they had no progressive elements in their stories?

Niamh. 09-03-2017 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9244248)
You can tell its a stunt when they sterotype the character 10 fold

Most of Disneys characters are over the top and stereo typed though :shrug:

Denver 09-03-2017 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9244254)
Because it's better to be late than not show up?

Would you rather they had no progressive elements in their stories?

Me personally i dont think this is the right film.

They could have done it in a past film or made another one.

But they chose to do it in the most talked about Disney film in ages that is why i feel they have done it for some kind of stunt/publicity then put any actual thought process into it.

It would be nice to see it happen to a character we could see grow not one of the side characters

Niamh. 09-03-2017 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9244258)
Me personally i dont think this is the right film.

They could have done it in a past film or made another one.

But they chose to do it in the most talked about Disney film in ages that is why i feel they have done it for some kind of stunt/publicity then put any actual thought process into it.

It would be nice to see it happen to a character we could see grow not one of the side characters

Which is why they wouldn't have needed to pull a stunt to sell the film :shrug:

Denver 09-03-2017 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9244261)
Which is why they wouldn't have needed to pull a stunt to sell the film :shrug:

But it adds extra publicity which will likely turn into more tickets being sold which = loads of money

Withano 09-03-2017 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9244252)
I dont get why everyone is fan girling Disney doing it either as they are like a decade late to the party

Theyre not really though, considering Disney isnt aimed at an adult audience. If anything, theyre a decade early. Which is excellent.

Niamh. 09-03-2017 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9244262)
But it adds extra publicity which will likely turn into more tickets being sold which = loads of money

I disagree, if anything it will lead to less ticket sales by people protesting

Denver 09-03-2017 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9244263)
Theyre not really though, considering Disney isnt aimed at an adult audience. If anything, theyre a decade early. Which is excellent.

But shouldnt children be taught that there is nothing wrong with being different to everyone else in school as soon as possible?

Withano 09-03-2017 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9244265)
But shouldnt children be taught that there is nothing wrong with being different to everyone else in school as soon as possible?

Which is precisely why Disney doing it is excellent? Lol

Tom4784 09-03-2017 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9244258)
Me personally i dont think this is the right film.

They could have done it in a past film or made another one.

But they chose to do it in the most talked about Disney film in ages that is why i feel they have done it for some kind of stunt/publicity then put any actual thought process into it.

It would be nice to see it happen to a character we could see grow not one of the side characters

Lamenting that it should have happened in an earlier film is beyond pointless.

Like it's been said before, why would they need a publicity stunt when BatB is probably the most hyped film being released this year?

Little steps are better than nothing, a gay side character is better than having no gay characters at all.

Withano 09-03-2017 11:46 AM

I think, for now, theyre just trying to normsalise it. Make it less taboo.. therres been gay references in past disney films and the less subtle they get, the more normal it becomes.

Denver 09-03-2017 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9244264)
I disagree, if anything it will lead to less ticket sales by people protesting

I disagree only sales in countries that make gay propaganda illegal will suffer.

Everywhere else will have high ticket it sales i doubt there will be too much protesting

Niamh. 09-03-2017 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9244275)
I disagree only sales in countries that make gay propaganda illegal will suffer.

Everywhere else will have high ticket it sales i doubt there will be too much protesting

I doubt people who wouldn't have normally went, will go just cos there's a gay disney character in it so no extra sales because of it but they will have people, alot of people too I think, not just in countries like Russia, who will refuse to "expose their children to that" jeez large areas of bible belt America for example and Russia is a huge country too btw, that's a big loss in sales right there alone

Lostie! 09-03-2017 11:53 AM

The "Gay agenda!! Think of the children!!" people exist in all countries, this will absolutely alienate some of the audience. It will still do well because it's a hugely anticipated movie though, not because it has a gay character.

Tom4784 09-03-2017 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9244275)
I disagree only sales in countries that make gay propaganda illegal will suffer.

Everywhere else will have high ticket it sales i doubt there will be too much protesting

It will have an effect on sales, there's a lot of 'family' and religious organisations in countries like the US that will opt for boycotts and such. It'll still be a rampant success but having a gay character will affect sales even in the most progressive of places.

Marsh. 09-03-2017 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9244248)
You can tell its a stunt when they sterotype the character 10 fold

Yeah because that same character wasn't camp as Christmas in the animation was he.

That's probably what made them think you know what this guy is in love with Gaston.

Marsh. 09-03-2017 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9244272)
I think, for now, theyre just trying to normsalise it. Make it less taboo.. therres been gay references in past disney films and the less subtle they get, the more normal it becomes.

Exactly so when it gets to the point that a gay character is at the centre of one of their movies it isn't a left field shock out of nowhere. They're slowly making it part and parcel of the Disney world as it is in the real world.


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