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UserSince2005 12-06-2017 09:45 PM

A few points about raph that I need clearing up from tonight's episode
 
How he got 4 passports? - can't you only have dual citizenship at most in Britain?
Whys he smoking now? - he's not trying to fit in is he?
Why doesn't he talk more about being gay? - is he sure he's not asexual?

Ross. 12-06-2017 09:46 PM

Jake will be with you shortly to answer these questions

http://i.imgur.com/nQ6UA6J.gif

Shaun 12-06-2017 09:47 PM

American, Japanese, Swiss & British
Has always smoked.
Because he's not Rylan.

LukeB 12-06-2017 09:47 PM

he has always smoked.

Jian Yang 12-06-2017 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9356023)
American, Japanese, Swiss & British
Has always smoked.
Because he's not Rylan.

End Thread.

Oliver_W 12-06-2017 09:49 PM

Why would he need to talk about being gay, how is it relevant to anything?

UserSince2005 12-06-2017 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9356023)
American, Japanese, Swiss & British

I understand this but I thought you could only have dual citizenship in the U.K.?
If he has 4 passports then that might void his British passport and he must be evicted and deported immediately? No?

Shaun 12-06-2017 09:50 PM

Two of them could be expired, tbf

Vanessa 12-06-2017 09:52 PM

It's brilliant to see so much of Raph. And he's always lovely.

UserSince2005 12-06-2017 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 9356037)
Why would he need to talk about being gay, how is it relevant to anything?

i dont know he just doesnt seem interested in men.

I mean im super masc, whod masc raph under the table. but id talk about being gay and men and have lotan.

Marsh. 12-06-2017 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross. (Post 9356022)
Jake will be with you shortly to answer these questions

http://i.imgur.com/nQ6UA6J.gif

:joker::joker::joker:

Marsh. 12-06-2017 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 9356009)
How he got 4 passports? - can't you only have dual citizenship at most in Britain?

I don't think so. I know someone with Irish, UK and USA passports. :shrug:

joeysteele 12-06-2017 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 9356085)
It's brilliant to see so much of Raph. And he's always lovely.

He's ace Vanessa.

Rob! 12-06-2017 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 9356118)
i dont know he just doesnt seem interested in men.

I mean im super masc, who masc raph under the table. but id talk about being gay and men and have lotan.

Unbelievably, some gay men think there's more to live than their own sexuality. I know, it's ****ing mental behaviour but that's Big Brother. Crazy characters in that house.

Vicky. 12-06-2017 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 9356281)
Unbelievably, some gay men think there's more to live than their own sexuality. I know, it's ****ing mental behaviour but that's Big Brother. Crazy characters in that house.

Indeed.

I know so many gay people, and only one feels the need to constantly mention his sexuality and be 'very OTT' (ie. talk about sucking cock or licking arse while people are having dinner and such)

Shaun 12-06-2017 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9356301)
Indeed.

I know so many gay people, and only one feels the need to constantly mention his sexuality and be 'very OTT' (ie. talk about sucking cock or licking arse while people are having dinner and such)

But enough about Black Dagger

Drew. 12-06-2017 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9356307)
But enough about Black Dagger

:joker:

UserSince2005 12-06-2017 10:22 PM

all im saying is that sexuality is a spectrum, and raph should know that its okay not to identify as gay. in fact based on what he said in his profile vt and how he has acted in the house, he should consider demisexuality, or something along those lines.

Jake. 12-06-2017 10:31 PM

He's been smoking for god knows how long and yeah I'm pretty sure Shaun's right regarding the passports

Marsh. 12-06-2017 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 9356317)
all im saying is that sexuality is a spectrum, and raph should know that its okay not to identify as gay. in fact based on what he said in his profile vt and how he has acted in the house, he should consider demisexuality, or something along those lines.

What?

If he's attracted to men, he's attracted to men. Does he need to be prancing about in glitter screaming "Showbiz!!!!!!" to "identify" enough for you? :unsure:

Jake. 12-06-2017 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 9356317)
all im saying is that sexuality is a spectrum, and raph should know that its okay not to identify as gay. in fact based on what he said in his profile vt and how he has acted in the house, he should consider demisexuality, or something along those lines.

I think Raph just doesn't scream the roof down about it, which is perfectly fine

rusticgal 12-06-2017 10:47 PM

I think Shaun said all that needs to be said.
I have really warmed to Raph. I didn't want to support him just because he is a forum member...I wanted to judge him on what I saw. He is a likeable guy who clearly doesn't like controversy but he is kind and courteous and his head is screwed on. He will be seen as weak and a people pleaser and I want to see him dig a few people out for their faults...but I don't think that will happen.
Raph and Charlotte are my favourites at the moment...Chanelles heart is in the right place but along with the rest of them she's thick and trashy. Lotan is just trying to be Mr Nice guy all of the time and I don't buy it.

Beso 12-06-2017 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 9356085)
It's brilliant to see so much of Raph. And he's always lovely.

Watch the pre watershed catch up show on mtv he comes across as the main character.

Funny how plain keyleigh comes across when the swearing is cut out as well.

It is lile watching 2 different shows.

UserSince2005 12-06-2017 10:48 PM

at the end of the day we all need to be more accepting that there are other sexualities other than straight and gay.
its okay not to be gay!

Shaun 12-06-2017 10:48 PM

Raph:
http://www.out.com/sites/out.com/fil...oo5_r2_400.gif

Black Dagger:
http://i.imgur.com/J8ToFp1.gif

Marsh. 12-06-2017 10:49 PM

:joker:

Beso 12-06-2017 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9356301)
Indeed.

I know so many gay people, and only one feels the need to constantly mention his sexuality and be 'very OTT' (ie. talk about sucking cock or licking arse while people are having dinner and such)

I do that.:joker:

Niamh. 12-06-2017 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 9356435)
I think Shaun said all that needs to be said.
I have really warmed to Raph. I didn't want to support him just because he is a forum member...I wanted to judge him on what I saw. He is a likeable guy who clearly doesn't like controversy but he is kind and courteous and his head is screwed on. He will be seen as weak and a people pleaser and I want to see him dig a few people out for their faults...but I don't think that will happen.
Raph and Charlotte are my favourites at the moment...Chanelles heart is in the right place but along with the rest of them she's thick and trashy. Lotan is just trying to be Mr Nice guy all of the time and I don't buy it.

Agree with everything in this post but to add about Raph I do think he's using everything he knows about BB in a very clever way (which I love)

Rob! 12-06-2017 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9356442)

:joker::joker::joker:

Tozzie 12-06-2017 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 9356085)
It's brilliant to see so much of Raph. And he's always lovely.

loving Raph, he's level headed, cool, calm, intelligent and a damn nice kid

smudgie 12-06-2017 10:56 PM

I am pretty sure he told mother and daughter he was gay first night.
He also discussed it when it came out that he was a cheater.:shrug:

Marsh. 12-06-2017 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 9356502)
he was a cheater.:shrug:

https://media.giphy.com/media/RZOrh6ZGCs8yA/giphy.gif

UserSince2005 12-06-2017 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 9356502)
I am pretty sure he told mother and daughter he was gay first night.
He also discussed it when it came out that he was a cheater.:shrug:

but sometimes you just say gay to make it easier to explain.

Maybe he is gay, and its his choice what he wants to identify as.

but as a forum we are here to comment on the housemates

and he just doesnt seem to know who he is and is hence why he avoids talking about it and being his true self.

smudgie 12-06-2017 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9356515)

:laugh::laugh: poor Raph.

smudgie 12-06-2017 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 9356524)
but sometimes you just say gay to make it easier to explain.

Maybe he is gay, and its his choice what he wants to identify as.

but as a forum we are here to comment on the housemates

and he just doesnt seem to know who he is and is hence why he avoids talking about it and being his true self.

As I am not gay myself, I can't really say much about it.
But maybe he just wants to be private about it:shrug:

Oliver_W 12-06-2017 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 9356524)
housemates

and he just doesnt seem to know who he is and is hence why he avoids talking about it and being his true self.

What makes you think he doesn't know who he is?

RhysJones 12-06-2017 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 9356037)
Why would he need to talk about being gay, how is it relevant to anything?

We wanna know his coming out story, how his parents reacted, what type of guys he goes for. Trying to get to know the real Raph not some fake one he's trying to portray

Shaun 12-06-2017 11:48 PM

Well you can wait for his autobiography then.

Apollo 12-06-2017 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 9356009)
How he got 4 passports? - can't you only have dual citizenship at most in Britain?


Dual Citizenship is a misnomer in the sense that countries either restrict additional citizenships (China) or allow them (UK).

There is no arbitrary limit, there are practical limitations to amassing a bunch of different passports (time and money mostly), but if you wanted to invest in a bunch of "citizenship by investment programs" or simply relocate and attempt to qualify for residency and eventually citizenship in countries that also recognise/allow additional passports across the world, to buffer your passport count, you could do that.

"Dual Citizenship" if often refereed to as such because practically speaking most people aren't going to be in a position to acquire more than one additional nationality,but "multiple citizenship" would be a more apt name, as there is no actual numerical restriction.

Marsh. 13-06-2017 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhysJones (Post 9356657)
We wanna know his coming out story, how his parents reacted, what type of guys he goes for. Trying to get to know the real Raph not some fake one he's trying to portray

So the "real Raph" is everything about being gay because there is nothing else to learn about him whatsoever? Ok.


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