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Denver 05-09-2017 11:30 AM

British Soldiers arrested on suspicion of preparing Acts of Terrorism
 
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Serving British soldiers are among four alleged members of National Action, the banned neo-Nazi group, arrested on suspicion of preparing acts of terrorism.

The men - a 22-year-old from Birmingham, a 32-year-old from Powys, a 24-year-old from Ipswich and a 24-year-old from Northampton - were held on Tuesday.

The Ministry of Defence confirmed that "a number of serving members of the Army have been arrested under the Terrorism Act".

West Midlands Police said the four men have been arrested on suspicion of terrorism offences.

A spokesman said they "have been arrested on suspicion of being concerned in the commission, preparation and instigation of acts of terrorism under Section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000; namely on suspicion of being a member of a proscribed organisation (National Action) contrary to sec 11 of the Terrorism Act".

All four men are being held at a police station in the West Midlands.

The arrests were carried out by police in conjunction with counter-terror units from the West Midlands, Wales and the East Midlands.

Several properties are being searched in connection with the arrests.

A police spokesman added: "The arrests were pre-planned and intelligence-led; there was no threat to the public’s safety."

An Army spokesman said: "We can confirm that a number of serving members of the Army have been arrested under the Terrorism Act for being associated with a proscribed far right group.

"These arrests are the consequence of a Home Office Police Force led operation supported by the Army. This is now the subject of a civilian police investigation and it would be inappropriate to comment further."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...cion-planning/

smudgie 05-09-2017 11:33 AM

Throw the book at the beggars.:fist:

JTM45 05-09-2017 03:39 PM

Right-Wing Nazi terrorist SCUM!!!!

This is what all the ignorance-driven BS results in. Just hope this isn't just the tip of the scumberg.

Tom4784 05-09-2017 03:44 PM

The Rise of Right Wing terrorism continues. 'Alt Right' (read: Neo Nazi) groups need to be called out for what they are and the Right Wing needs to disavow them.

I hope that these people get the book thrown at them and the media doesn't attempt to portray them as anything other than the terrorists they planned to become.

Crimson Dynamo 05-09-2017 03:51 PM

Just a direct consequence of Islamic terror in the UK, the more Islamic terror the greater risk that people will try to take the law into their own hands from the same socio-demographic and intelligence level

stands to reason, does not make it right but its kind of similar to the UVF/UDA

Denver 05-09-2017 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9607428)
Just a direct consequence of Islamic terror in the UK, the more Islamic terror the greater risk that people will try to take the law into their own hands from the same socio-demographic and intelligence level

stands to reason, does not make it right but its kind of similar to the UVF/UDA

I forgot the whole reason for the nazis was to fight make against islamic terrorists in the 20's and 30's

Crimson Dynamo 05-09-2017 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9607515)
I forgot the whole reason for the nazis was to fight make against islamic terrorists in the 20's and 30's

Im sorry that sentence does not make sense :shrug:

Oliver_W 05-09-2017 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9607551)
Im sorry that sentence does not make sense :shrug:

I think he's trying to say something like "yeah, the rise of the Nazis in the 20s and 30s was totally because they were Islamophobic lol" or something.

Alf 05-09-2017 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9607418)
The Rise of Right Wing terrorism continues. 'Alt Right' (read: Neo Nazi) groups need to be called out for what they are and the Right Wing needs to disavow them.

I hope that these people get the book thrown at them and the media doesn't attempt to portray them as anything other than the terrorists they planned to become.

Of course it is, and I'd expect it'll continue too.

While people are being thrown in prison for putting a few rashers of Bacon on a building and so called hate speech, while at the same time importing terrorism.

People don't feel protected, and are gonna start defending themselves.


If I had to make a guess, I'd guess it's all planned.

DemolitionRed 05-09-2017 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9607634)
Of course it is, and I'd expect it'll continue too.

While people are being thrown in prison for putting a few rashers of Bacon on a building and so called hate speech, while at the same time importing terrorism.

People don't feel protected and are gonna start defending themselves.


If I had to make a guess, I'd guess it's all planned.

Protected from what? I don't feel I need to be protected from the far right. I certainly don't feel the far right are protecting me. They are just a bunch of thicko's too dense to understand the connection between mass immigration and the Wests grotesque act of invading other countries claiming those countries as our territory and stealing their resources to keep our emperors and crown.

They are too stupid to understand that the only thing that will stop refugees and stop terrorist acts, is to stop our terrorist acts on them and the only way we can do that is to topple the globalist Masters who create these artificial wars on terror.

The uneducated who walk with the far right are just slaves of the propaganda machine. They are nothing more than a tool, designed to keep our eye off the bigger picture. Sometimes to rule, you have to divide.

Underscore 05-09-2017 07:30 PM

Lock them up and throw away the key.

JTM45 05-09-2017 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9607634)
People don't feel protected, and are gonna start defending themselves.

What exactly would you like people to believe British people aren't being ''protected'' from ? :shrug:

How exactly would these people have been ''defending themselves'' ?

When British citizens start excusing domestic terrorists then what hope is there for our Country ?

MTVN 05-09-2017 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9607428)
Just a direct consequence of Islamic terror in the UK, the more Islamic terror the greater risk that people will try to take the law into their own hands from the same socio-demographic and intelligence level

stands to reason, does not make it right but its kind of similar to the UVF/UDA

It's not really because groups like NA are not just against Muslims but also Jews and anybody non-white. And anyway they hate Muslims because of their Nazi ideology not because of Islamic terror. I wouldn't say that neo-Nazism is any bigger today than it was in the 80s either

Oliver_W 05-09-2017 08:58 PM

I'd be interested to hear what acts of terror they had planned - apparently even vandalism is classed as an act of terror these days... Though as soldiers, I'm sure they're capable of things more damaging.

arista 05-09-2017 09:02 PM

Yes NA was on Ch4HD News report
tonight.

user104658 05-09-2017 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9607634)
Of course it is, and I'd expect it'll continue too.

While people are being thrown in prison for putting a few rashers of Bacon on a building and so called hate speech, while at the same time importing terrorism.

People don't feel protected, and are gonna start defending themselves


So you're a terrorist sympathiser, then?

arista 05-09-2017 09:38 PM

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http://news.sky.com/story/alleged-ne...-plot-11021360

Alf 05-09-2017 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9607987)
So you're a terrorist sympathiser, then?

No, just discussing the predicament we find ourselves in. A bit of a far assumption by you there.

Although I should just shut up, shouldn't I?


God save the Queen

JTM45 05-09-2017 10:09 PM

Lucky it says they're Neo-Nazi's or the local rightie's would be screaming 'ANTIFA'. They'll be so relieved when they see it's some of their own kind.:laugh:
A friendly hidden face and a synchronized Sieg-Heil. It's enough to warm the blackened ashes of Donald Trump's 'heart'.:yuk:

Oliver_W 05-09-2017 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 9608043)
Lucky it says they're Neo-Nazi's or the local rightie's would be screaming 'ANTIFA'. They'll be so relieved when they see it's some of their own kind.:laugh:

Scum like that have no more in common with the average rightie than Antifa scum do with the average leftie :)

Alf 05-09-2017 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 9608043)
Lucky it says they're Neo-Nazi's or the local rightie's would be screaming 'ANTIFA'. They'll be so relieved when they see it's some of their own kind.:laugh:
A friendly hidden face and a synchronized Sieg-Heil. It's enough to warm the blackened ashes of Donald Trump's 'heart'.:yuk:

I thought you were gonna go through a whole post without mentioning Donald Trump there. But right at the end, there it was. Your favourite, you had to get it in.

I'm right aren't I, he's in almost every post you make, even when he isn't involved?

Do you dislike the leader of the free World more than the leader of ISIS? which one of those do you dislike most? It'll be interesting to hear your answer, because I know which one you seem to dislike most.

user104658 05-09-2017 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9608040)
No, just discussing the predicament we find ourselves in. A bit of a far assumption by you there.

It's not really any sort of assumption, it's a statement of fact. You are being understanding of their terrorist activities by saying "People don't feel protected, and are gonna start defending themselves" and also talking about "their predicament" in an attempt to understand - or sympathise with - domestic terrorism. Now I'm not saying that people SHOULDN'T discuss these things - but I don't imagine you have much time for it when people start talking about the reasons for the rise in international terrorism? You can see why British people would turn to terrorism after being terrorised, but you'd never be understanding of a middle eastern terrorist whose home / country has been destroyed by Western powers :think:.

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Although I should just shut up, shouldn't I?
I'd never tell you to do that Alf :hee:

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God save the Queen
And all who sail in her http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/he...y-emoticon.gif

Alf 05-09-2017 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9608060)
It's not really any sort of assumption, it's a statement of fact. You are being understanding of their terrorist activities by saying "People don't feel protected, and are gonna start defending themselves" and also talking about "their predicament" in an attempt to understant - or sympathise with - domestic terrorism. Now I'm not saying that people SHOULDN'T discuss these things - but I don't imagine you have much time for it when people start talking about the reasons for the rise in international terrorism? You can see why British people would turn to terrorism after being terrorised, but you'd never be understanding of a middle eastern terrorist whose home / country has been destroyed by Western powers :think:.



I'd never tell you to do that Alf :hee:



And all who sail in her http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/he...y-emoticon.gif

Just understanding to nature, if you back people into a corner and strip them of their rights, they're gonna come out fighting. Sh1t happens.

I can tell you now for a fact, I'm no sympathiser, I'm not even political. I'm an observer and am only on my own side. And I like winding people up, I think they call it trolling these days, it used to be called interacting,

JTM45 05-09-2017 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9608051)
I thought you were gonna go through a whole post without mentioning Donald Trump there. But right at the end, there it was. Your favourite, you had to get it in.

I'm right aren't I, he's in almost every post you make, even when he isn't involved?

Do you dislike the leader of the free World more than the leader of ISIS? which one of those do you dislike most? It'll be interesting to hear your answer, because I know which one you seem to dislike most.

Al-Baghdadi has far less chance of negatively impacting our lives than Drumpf but he'll probably hold his position for longer so all in all they'd probably hold an equal spot on my personal scale of disdain.

Trumpski has never been nor will he ever be the ''leader of the free World''. Nothing is free in Donald's World. He's going to be getting a very large bill from Mr. Mueller soon and i can guarantee he won't be able to pay it. Go straight to jail Don the Con, and take Pence and your foul, corrupt offspring with you. :wavey:

user104658 05-09-2017 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9608067)
Just understanding to nature, if you back people into a corner and strip them of their rights, they're gonna come out fighting. Sh1t happens.

Indeed. Hence the existence and rise of ISIS in the first place, I suppose.

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I can tell you now for a fact, I'm no sympathiser, I'm not even political. I'm an observer and am only on my own side. And I like winding people up, I think they call it trolling these days, it used to be called interacting,
:nono: You're far too sensitive to be an oldschool troll, Alf.

user104658 05-09-2017 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 9608079)
Al-Baghdadi has far less chance of negatively impacting our lives than Drumpf but he'll probably hold his position for longer so all in all they'd probably hold an equal spot on my personal scale of disdain.

I'd agree with that to be fair.

As much of a narcissistic sociopath as Trump is, ISIS leaders are more truly hateful by nature, and therefore theoretically more deserving of disdain. On the other hand, Trump has far more power, both political and literal firepower, and therefore is FAR more dangerous than any ISIS leader. So it's a tough call. ISIS leaders are scarier on an individual level, Trump is far scarier in political context.

Alf 05-09-2017 10:50 PM

Say something positive about Trump, when he deserves it, and you wont sound so partisan, and sound more like a free thinker.


He's donating $1 million dollars of his own money to Harvey victims, he didn't have to do that if he didn't want to. Hillary Clinton will probably be profiting from the disaster through her foundation.

Now isn't that a great thing to do? give him some praise for this.

JTM45 05-09-2017 10:51 PM

Agreed TS. It's one of those 6 of one, half a dozen of the other situations.
Trump's just far less direct and open with his foulness.:laugh:

JTM45 05-09-2017 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9608090)
Say something positive about Trump, when he deserves it, and you wont sound so partisan, and sound more like a free thinker.


He's donating $1 million dollars of his own money to Harvey victims, he didn't have to do that if he didn't want to. Hillary Clinton will probably be profiting from the disaster through her foundation.

Now isn't that a great thing to do? give him some praise for this.

Oh thank you for handing me this cherry!:laugh:

Trump 'has said' he'll donate a million dollars to the Harvey victims but still hasn't done so.
When his Press Secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders was asked about why he still hasn't made his reported 'donation' she claimed that he's still having trouble making his supposed million dollar donation to Hurricane Harvey relief because the media hasn’t yet told him which charity to give it to. Really. :facepalm:

Oliver_W 05-09-2017 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 9608079)
Al-Baghdadi has far less chance of negatively impacting our lives than Drumpf but he'll probably hold his position for longer so all in all they'd probably hold an equal spot on my personal scale of disdain.

Drumpf? Do you refer to Chelsea Manning as Bradley?

JTM45 05-09-2017 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 9608097)
Drumpf? Do you refer to Chelsea Manning as Bradley?

I don't have a problem with Chelsea Manning. She, unlike Drumpf, is an admirable person. Easy enough for you ?
Why you picking on Chelsea anyway ?

Could this thread go any further off-topic ? (yeah, yeah.........i know i'm as guilty as anyone on that one)

Oliver_W 05-09-2017 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 9608099)
I don't have a problem with Chelsea Manning. She, unlike Drumpf, is an admirable person. Easy enough for you ?
Why you picking on Chelsea anyway ?

Just a random example of someone else it would be extremely petty to use the wrong name for :)

JTM45 05-09-2017 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 9608108)
Just a random example of someone else it would be extremely petty to use the wrong name for :)

Trump & Petty go hand in hand.

user104658 05-09-2017 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9608090)
Say something positive about Trump, when he deserves it, and you wont sound so partisan, and sound more like a free thinker.


He's donating $1 million dollars of his own money to Harvey victims, he didn't have to do that if he didn't want to. Hillary Clinton will probably be profiting from the disaster through her foundation.

Now isn't that a great thing to do? give him some praise for this.

Err but the best you can say is, it's better than nothing? We could all donate a million dollars to charity if we were multi-millionaires... How benevolent it makes him depends entirely on whether or not that is actually a significant amount of money to him. Point me to something genuinely motive less and not self-serving that he has done, if you want him to get praise. This sounds a lot like him trying to "buy good press", in my opinion. I'm very rarely impressed by "money" tbh.

Alf 05-09-2017 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 9608095)
Oh thank you for handing me this cherry!:laugh:

Trump 'has said' he'll donate a million dollars to the Harvey victims but still hasn't done so.
When his Press Secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders was asked about why he still hasn't made his reported 'donation' she claimed that he's still having trouble making his supposed million dollar donation to Hurricane Harvey relief because the media hasn’t yet told him which charity to give it to. Really. :facepalm:

There's the thanks he gets.

Still his only crime was running for President. And the political establishment didn't like it, and neither do the political establishment Storm Troopers.

Alf 05-09-2017 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9608132)
Err but the best you can say is, it's better than nothing? We could all donate a million dollars to charity if we were multi-millionaires... How benevolent it makes him depends entirely on whether or not that is actually a significant amount of money to him. Point me to something genuinely motive less and not self-serving that he has done, if you want him to get praise. This sounds a lot like him trying to "buy good press", in my opinion. I'm very rarely impressed by "money" tbh.

More appreciation for a good deed done here.

What has Donald Trump ever done to you? to make you so annoyed that he'd whack in a nice chunk of his money for victims? Why can't you just say "What a nice gesture, he's not so bad after all"

JTM45 05-09-2017 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9608141)
Still his only crime was running for President.

Now that's where you're going wrong! :laugh:
This larry's been criming it up as far back as he can remember. You don't get the long established nickname 'Don the Con' in your home state for nothing!:nono:

The guy HAS comitted treason in a massive way against his own Country and he is also guilty of at least one count of obstruction of justice. You not heard about 'Trump University' ? The money laundering ? I could go on but it'll probably just be falling on deaf ears.:shrug:

Alf 05-09-2017 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 9608099)
I don't have a problem with Chelsea Manning. She, unlike Drumpf, is an admirable person. Easy enough for you ?
Why you picking on Chelsea anyway ?

Could this thread go any further off-topic ? (yeah, yeah.........i know i'm as guilty as anyone on that one)

This is the sort of quote where problems lie with some.

Discussions do sometimes go off topic, it's not a big deal, you don't need to make a big deal out of the fact that conversations sometimes change course.

This doesn't need to and shouldn't be a dictatorship.

Alf 05-09-2017 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 9608146)
Now that's where you're going wrong! :laugh:
This larry's been criming it up as far back as he can remember. You don't get the long established nickname 'Don the Con' in your home state for nothing!:nono:

The guy HAS comitted treason in a massive way against his own Country and he is also guilty of at least one count of obstruction of justice. You not heard about 'Trump University' ? The money laundering ? I could go on but it'll probably just be falling on deaf ears.:shrug:

Do go on, I'm a good listener. I like to be educated.

JTM45 05-09-2017 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9608147)
This is the sort of quote where problems lie with some.

Discussions do sometimes go off topic, it's not a big deal, you don't need to make a big deal out of the fact that conversations sometimes change course.

This doesn't need to and shouldn't be a dictatorship.

Believe me (the evidence will show) i don't have a problem with going off-topic but it seems to be heavily scorned in some forums. Just covering my ass. :laugh:


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