A question for fans of The Walking Dead?
 

I've just watched the first two seasons of the show and I've been having mixed feelings on the show overall as Season 1 had a very good first two episodes and then died off imo through episode 3-5 and then clawed it's way back a little bit in episode 6.

Then season 2 I felt was better than Season 1 as it focused more on the other characters away from just Rick, Shayne, and Lori's melodrama which killed season 1 for me.

My point anyway is season 3 better than the first two seasons? Because at this point I'm struggling with the show as Lori's awful, Rick is boring, and Darryl doesn't get enough screentime imo, and the female characters all feel like Stepford Wives where I'm at.

I want the show to be less about the Family Drama and more about the Horror, survival, and also a Human antagonist which I hear is coming up in season 3, is he any good as a Human villain?

S3&4 are the best seasons then it goes to ****

This

i like all seasons of TWD

Season 3 is one of my least favourite seasons, it was my least favourite until Season 7, Season 8 better be good or I won't be watching much longer

If you're not enjoying it now you likely wont ever because it only get's worse.

That's not necessarily true, given the criteria here... the show does start focusing on other characters and Rick gets less screen time, Daryl definitely starts to get a lot more screen time, Carol becomes MUCH more interesting and other more developed female characters start to come in and of course...



I personally also think The Governor is a decent enough villain... definitely in the grey at least, which is better than Negan's comic-book "evil" which makes him unrealistic.

I say give S3 a chance and also S4 if you like 3. From there it's up to you; some people haven't liked it as much since, I personally still enjoy it but you do have to accept some of the flaws that come along in the late seasons. Some episodes are slightly slower paced, a lot of the tension starts to die as the characters become zombie-killing machines (although that's realistic enough IMO given that they've had years of experience) and you know that main ones will rarely die and some just won't die full stop...

Season 1 and 2 are the only must watch seasons I think. After that it descends into a state of 'We have no overall plot so we're just gonna keep people watching by killing off characters intermittently and pretending we have a plot by repeating the same plot points over and over'.

I think a large part of the issue is the same as GoT season 5... the show has largely caught up with, or is close to catching up with, the bulk of the source material and is scared to head towards a conclusion, so it's been treading water since the start of Alexandria to an extent... drawing out what should be fairly short storylines into full season (or 2 season...) arcs. GoT picked up again massively when they decided to forge on ahead towards their ending, without relying on the books having an ending. I think TWD needs to do the same pretty soon; decide at least HOW they want it to conclude, even if not exactly when. Then they can have a cohesive plot developing towards something.

It's pretty basic writers stuff really; if you start a story without already knowing where it's going, it's never really going to go ANYWHERE. The problem when it comes to TV of course is that it's year-by-year renewals... so the networks either swallow the hit of planning an ending after X number of seasons knowing that the show will end when it still has financial life left in it (e.g. GoT, Breaking Bad)... OR the show being cancelled before reaching the planned conclusion leaving a frustrating, unfinished story.

Or you just keep running season to season treading water until the show has no life left in it and gets cancelled for that reason.

Of course for the viewers, the most satisfying complete shows are the ones that always had a rough draft of beginning-middle-end and an outline of the number of planned seasons.

i gave up halfway through s4 bc it was tripe

It turns trash after season 3.

I really wish people who think it was tripe by S4 had seen things like Trashyard Lady, or the "Rick-hides-under-a-boat" death fakeout from the last season. Full on sitcom stuff :joker:.

It goes up and down in quality all of the time. People can say it is terrible after Season 3/4 but then the latest seasons have some of, it not the, strongest episodes in the shows history, but unfortunately they also just suffer from having strings of dull episodes alongside them. The best villain in the show, who's also human since that's what you want, is introduced in Season 6.

Trash people were an all time low

Who Negan?

Niamh say the mean mean thing, trash lady made sad face, make water come from eye.

:laugh2:

Yeah

I enjoyed Negan at th end of S6 and beginning of S7, but he became a bit of a caricature. Just not convincing as a real human being.

No way, worst villain yet, so unbelievable that his followers would continue following him

Possibly the most iconic TV villain of all time :nono:

That seems like a gross exaggeration :nono:

this isn’t beverly leslie from will and grace??

:joker::joker:

Okay thanks guys.

I've watched the first 6 episodes and so far I feel that it's much better as Rick seems like he is going insane. And I like the different POV's in this season, and how creepy the Prison looks. And of course The Governor is giving the show an antagonist that can actually communicate with the heroes which is a good thing imo.

The only issues that I'm having with the season is the lack of Daryl, Carol, and Glen screentime, Lori's presence in the earlier episodes of the season, and Andrea trusting The Governor so easily.

I've only watched 6 episodes right now but it's starting to feel like the show that it was always meant to be rather than a Soap Opera.

I'm 14 episodes into season 4 and it's not as good as season 3 imo as it can be a bit slow paced for my tastes, and it is taking too much pleasure in pointless gore and this is speaking as someone that's a fan of both the Saw and the Hostel Films.

However episode 14 was really strong imo and played on Lizzie who imo has had one of the most fascinating storylines in the show so far, and actually showed that the show can do a slow paced episode that still pushes the plot forward.

The one thing that I do wish that the show would stop doing is being so trigger happy, don't get me wrong I don't want the show being too safe either, but I do want the show to have a cast that I'm gonna recognise away from Rick and Carl by the end of the show's run.

4x14 is one of the most hated episodes amongst fans so if you've enjoyed that I'm sure you'll enjoy the rest :joker:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3316800/

https://screenrant.com/best-episodes-the-walking-dead/

Not bad for a hated episode.:laugh:

But yeah I've watched upto Episode 5 of season 6 and it feels like it's ran out of ideas, Rick has gone irritating again, he has Lori 2.0 as a Romance, he is now OTT arrogant and the show never mentions the fact that he is very arrogant which is horrific writing imo. Michonne and Maggie are practically cardboard cutouts at this point which is ashame as Michonne was great in season 3, and Maggie is a likeable character that just doesn't do anything.

Daryl for the most popular character on TWD amongst the fandom Is not getting the screentime that I expected him to have.

Also the show is too trigger happy, they killed Beth off for no reason and her character was also starting to finally develop now that she had her own storyline going on, but instead of helping continue Beth's growth the writers think that it's okay just to kill her, and all for a character that dies just a few episodes later in season 5.

But going back to season 6 the Alexandrians (with the exception of Aaron) are all deeply irritating, boring, and completely unrealistic, they're perfectly okay for all those months or years (I don't know how much time is meant to have gone by in the show) and yet as soon as Rick's group shows up they start having these weird guys show up with the W mark on their heads, then the Walkers are constantly breaking into the town killing alot of their people just to make Saint Rick be "in the right" which is really boring to watch the same character get things that they want too easily. Then they've got Carl being obsessed with this girl who he doesn't know from Adam, and now a love triangle also seems to be emerging from it, oh the joy!

Yeah Neegan needs to show up and basically give these characters and the show a kick up the backside, even if he does kill off one of the actual bearable characters in season 7.

Not read through this thread as don’t want spoilers but watched series 1 the first 4 eps so far I’m really enjoying it but there is so much to catch up on I have no idea where to find the time to do it

So far my top 10 episodes for the show are as followed.

1. The Grove (season 4 episode 14)
2. Killer Within (season 3 episode 4)
3. No Sanctuary (season 5 episode 1)
4. Made To Suffer (season 3 episode 8)
5. Seed (season 3 episode 1)
6. Four Walls And A Roof (season 5 episode 3)
7. Sick (season 3 episode 2)
8. When The Dead Come Knocking (season 3 episode 7)
9. Too Far Gone (season 4 episode 8)
10. Slabtown (season 5 episode 4) I know that this episode seems to be controversial though.:laugh:

My 10 worst of the show are as followed.

1. First Time Again (season 6 episode 1)
2. Tell It To The Frogs (season 1 episode 3)
3. Now (season 6 episode 5)
4. What Happened And What's Going On (season 5 episode 9)
5. Secrets (season 2 episode 6)
6. Wildfire (season 1 episode 5)
7. Vatos (season 1 episode 4)
8. Spend (season 5 episode 14)
9. TS-19 (season 1 episode 6)
10. Thank You (season 6 episode 3)

I know that not everyone will agree with my opinions as I seem to like different aspects to the show compared to some of the fandom (especially the fact that I think that season 1 is a pile of turd) but it would be a boring world if we all thought the same.

Anyway as a side topic on the thread, what is your top 10 and worst 10 episodes of The Walking Dead? I've not watched most of season 6 yet so if there's any great or bad episodes coming up I couldn't put them on my lists.

I'm glad that you're enjoying season 1.

And yes it's best to avoid some of the stuff discussed in this thread.:laugh:

I miss the season 1 and season 2 feel<3

It peaks at Season 4.

I preferred Season 5 by far

I think the Season 4 Mid Season finale is probably my fave episode of the series.