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Tom4784 10-11-2017 09:16 PM

Tesco Christmas advert attacked for featuring Muslim family
 
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Just days after its release, Tesco’s Christmas advert has come under fire for featuring a Muslim family.

In the supermarket’s one-minute long advert, families prepare Christmas dinner and cook a turkey in a variety of ways.

As families meet and greet each other, one scene shows a Muslim family holding Christmas gifts and preparing to celebrate the festive holiday.

Some haven’t taken too kindly to Tesco’s inclusive message, with one Twitter user claiming to be a devout Christian feeling “very offended”.

Another user said “@Tesco why are you showing Muslims celebrating Christmas in your advert. That’s just wrong, we all know they don’t!!!”.

Tesco hit back, arguing everybody should be able to enjoy the festivities.

“Everyone is welcome at Tesco this Christmas and we're proud to celebrate the many ways our customers come together over the festive season”, a Tesco spokesperson said.

As part of a series of five short videos set to be released in the run up to Christmas, Tesco said the adverts aims to promote diversity.

Tesco said its Christmas campaign “will celebrate the many ways we come together at Christmas, and how food sits at the heart of it all”.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a8046396.html
I like it when racists pretend that Christmas is anything but an excuse to get pissed, eat like pigs and get given presents for 90% of the country so they can feel validated in their racism. Christmas simply isn't a religious holiday for most people any more and to pretend otherwise is just silly.

Jordan. 10-11-2017 09:19 PM

As if the majority of people complaining even celebrate the religious side of Christmas, probably the same bunch who kicked off about Halal Easter eggs.

Greg! 10-11-2017 09:25 PM

So depressing. People complain if muslims "don't integrate into Britain" but also attack them for celebrating Christmas (Nadiya from bake off is another example of this happening)

You can't win with some people

Scarlett. 10-11-2017 09:28 PM

What sad lives they must lead

Niamh. 10-11-2017 09:39 PM

Damned if you, damned if you don't

Cherie 10-11-2017 09:41 PM

Some haven’t taken too kindly to Tesco’s inclusive message, with one Twitter user claiming to be a devout Christian feeling “very offended”.

Another user said “@Tesco why are you showing Muslims celebrating Christmas in your advert. That’s just wrong, we all know they don’t!!!”.


So 2 Twitter users complained? there will always be idiots on Twitter is anyone surprised :shrug:

Cherie 10-11-2017 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9688309)
Damned if you, damned if you don't

Bit unfair to paint everyone with the same brush over a handful of Twitter users, if we applied that logic to all Twitter trolls where would we be :suspect:

Tom4784 10-11-2017 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9688311)
Some haven’t taken too kindly to Tesco’s inclusive message, with one Twitter user claiming to be a devout Christian feeling “very offended”.

Another user said “@Tesco why are you showing Muslims celebrating Christmas in your advert. That’s just wrong, we all know they don’t!!!”.


So 2 Twitter users complained? there will always be idiots on Twitter is anyone surprised :shrug:

.......lol

In articles like this they'll take two or three examples because, you know, you'd be scrolling for years if they listed all the tweets relating to the story.

Cherie 10-11-2017 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9688318)
.......lol

In articles like this they'll take two or three examples because, you know, you'd be scrolling for years if they listed all the tweets relating to the story.

I'm pretty sure that the JL ad has been slated as well, where is the thread

Jason. 10-11-2017 09:51 PM

That devout Christian who claimed to be offended needs to re-evaluate his life choices and get out more.

Christmas is about as religious as Halloween nowadays.

Tom4784 10-11-2017 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9688321)
I'm pretty sure that the JL ad has been slated as well, where is the thread

Because I don't give a **** about John Lewis?

Cherie 10-11-2017 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9688330)
Because I don't give a **** about John Lewis?

But you do about Tesco that figures :laugh: were there any positive tweets?

smudgie 10-11-2017 09:56 PM

Saw a load of this stupidity on fb.
People should celebrate what they want, how they want, when they want, where they want.
Muslims celebrating Xmas are no different to us atheists who do so.
Christmas trees and turkey dinners are hardly religious, any more than Easter bunnies and bonnets.
Good on Tesco for including us all in the celebration of Xmas, whatever it means to us.

Tom4784 10-11-2017 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9688333)
But you do about Tesco that figures :laugh: were there any positive tweets?

You aren't making much sense.

Of course there was positive tweets, does that somehow lesson the blatant racism in your eyes?

Marsh. 10-11-2017 09:58 PM

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with one Twitter user claiming to be a devout Christian feeling “very offended”.
I don't understand this. Is he offended by the millions upon millions of atheists who use it as a gift giving holiday and the complete commercialisation of the season?

Or just that a Muslim dares to shop at Tesco to make their Christmas dinner? :joker:

Tom4784 10-11-2017 09:58 PM

Also what's the point in comparing it to John Lewis' advert? Do they feature muslims in their advert as well or are you trying to liken people taking offense at muslims being present in an advert to people simply not liking the JL advert?

If so, your logic is fatally flawed.

Cherie 10-11-2017 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9688339)
You aren't making much sense.

Of course there was positive tweets, does that somehow lesson the blatant racism in your eyes?

There will always be idiots, it's just good to have a balance, why give the idiots oxegen? Not sure why this is a story of course people will complain, some people complain about EVERYTHING, that's why every TV show has a disclaimer now in case someone gets offended they will need to do that for Christmas ads soon

Tom4784 10-11-2017 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9688343)
There will always be idiots, it's just good to have a balance, why give the idiots oxegen? Not sure why this is a story of course people will complain, some people complain about EVERYTHING, that's why every TV show has a disclaimer now in case someone gets offended they will need to do that for Christmas ads soon

So we shouldn't highlight racism? We should just try to rationalise it instead?

Cherie 10-11-2017 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9688349)
So we shouldn't highlight racism? We should just try to rationalise it instead?

You are making a mountain out of a molehill and that is just silly, you say complaining about Muslims in the Tesco ad is not comparable to complaining about the mixed race family in the JL ad though I am sure someone somewhere on Twitter has complained about it, why is that..

Marsh. 10-11-2017 10:08 PM

What's the problem with the mixed race family in the JL ad? I haven't heard that one.

Tom4784 10-11-2017 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9688356)
You are making a mountain out of a molehill and that is just silly, you say complaining about Muslims in the Tesco ad is not comparable to complaining about the mixed race family in the JL ad though I am sure someone somewhere on Twitter has complained about it, why is that..

I didn't say that at all, I haven't watched the JL advert, that much should be apparent by my post asking why JL is relevant to this discussion about a TESCO ADVERT.

All I gather from this is that you are trying to take the thread off topic while downplaying apparent racism in in response to both adverts.

Cherie 10-11-2017 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9688358)
What's the problem with the mixed race family in the JL ad? I haven't heard that one.

Neither have I but you can bet your life there is a negative tweet out there somewhere about it

Tom4784 10-11-2017 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9688364)
Neither have I but you can bet your life there is a negative tweet out there somewhere about it

So you are comparing a real outcry that is pretty much racially motivated to an imaginary one in order to downplay the actual racism?

Cherie 10-11-2017 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9688363)
I didn't say that at all, I haven't watched the JL advert, that much should be apparent by my post asking why JL is relevant to this discussion about a TESCO ADVERT.

All I gather from this is that you are trying to take the thread off topic while downplaying apparent racism in in response to both adverts.

The discussion about the TESCO advert should maybe have the percentage of negative v positive tweets, if the positive outweigh the negative of course that doesn't sit well with the U.K. is racist narrative nor does it give TESCO any extra publicity...every little helps :idc:

Marsh. 10-11-2017 10:19 PM

I don't think it's a "UK is racist" narrative.

Beso 10-11-2017 10:42 PM

The independent not living up to its name.

waterhog 10-11-2017 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9688296)
So depressing. People complain if muslims "don't integrate into Britain" but also attack them for celebrating Christmas (Nadiya from bake off is another example of this happening)

You can't win with some people

great point. if people want to celebrate it is entirely up to them as this is what our free country offers.

open to all.

I no lots of people that don't do christamas and I do not judge them.

I just do them a bar humbug poem :joker: not really :fist:

Crimson Dynamo 10-11-2017 10:48 PM

Lol. Like it's anything other than pathetic pc like me marketing crap

Its a disgusting advert as is its justification

Marsh. 10-11-2017 10:50 PM

I don't see why it needs a justification.

It's not as though the advert was depicting the actual religious meaning behind Christmas.

They were portraying the food, gifts, winter wonderland ideal that was brought in by the retail industry to make millions. Everyone seems to celebrate that aspect, even atheists and *gasps* Muslims.

Wizard. 10-11-2017 10:56 PM

People need to get over it. It’s like people who get shocked that some Muslims drink, do drugs or gamble, stop stealing our culture Muslims!

T* 10-11-2017 10:59 PM

it’s an advert
people need better things to worry about
if people want to have Christmas let them, I ain’t religious, my family ain’t religious but we still enjoy joining in with the festive season and Christmas Day, and I know many people from different religions who do the same
just live your god damn life

AnnieK 11-11-2017 12:46 AM

Peace and goodwill to ALL men

Alf 11-11-2017 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9688349)
So we shouldn't highlight racism? We should just try to rationalise it instead?

How many times do you need to be told? Islam is not a race, it's an ideology.

Tom4784 11-11-2017 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9688374)
The discussion about the TESCO advert should maybe have the percentage of negative v positive tweets, if the positive outweigh the negative of course that doesn't sit well with the U.K. is racist narrative nor does it give TESCO any extra publicity...every little helps :idc:

Ah, you're trying to change the goalposts. Comparing the amount of positive and negative tweets would achieve nothing, it doesn't change the racism aimed at this ad. All it would do is downplay it.

This whole 'UK is Racist narrative' thing you are trying to push is quite nonsensical and isn't reflected in my posts nor the original article.

Eddie. 11-11-2017 06:39 AM

it's not offensive at all...in fact, I have Muslim friends planning to come over for Christmas Eve...

bots 11-11-2017 06:56 AM

Lets look at it from another angle, would Tesco's feature a Christian family in an advert for a Muslim festival? I don't think so. People may well celebrate Christmas for all the wrong reasons, but it is still a Christian festival, so I can see it rubbing some people the wrong way. Personally, I couldn't give a crap, the whole thing is just commercialised nonsense, but I do think people have a right to be offended by it

Brillopad 11-11-2017 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9688349)
So we shouldn't highlight racism? We should just try to rationalise it instead?

Every sentiment expressed there equally applies to PC. So we shouldn’t highlight OTT PC - we should just try to rationalise it instead? :bored:

Brillopad 11-11-2017 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9688599)
Lets look at it from another angle, would Tesco's feature a Christian family in an advert for a Muslim festival? I don't think so. People may well celebrate Christmas for all the wrong reasons, but it is still a Christian festival, so I can see it rubbing some people the wrong way. Personally, I couldn't give a crap, the whole thing is just commercialised nonsense, but I do think people have a right to be offended by it

Well said. Sick of the constant double standards.

DemolitionRed 11-11-2017 07:35 AM

But Muslims do believe in the birth of Christ. Jesus is mentioned repeatedly in the Quran as a great prophet and messenger of God. In fact, Muslims, through the Hadiths, follow Jesus back through lineage to his great ancestors, which makes them firm believers in Jesus. Like Christians, Muslims preach that Jesus was without sin. The birthplace and birth dates of Jesus is different in the Quran to what it is in the bible but Muslims still recognize the birth of Christ as the birth of a great prophet.

The reason Muslims don't normally celebrate Christmas is because they've been raised to believe that Christmas day was modeled after Saturnalia, a Roman Pagan holiday honoring the deity Saturn that was later adopted by Christians. Muslims, like Pagans, believe Christ was born in July.

In Muslim countries, they (unless you're a Christian) don't celebrate Christmas day but in Europe, Christmas is a national holiday that's celebrated by Pagans, Christians, Atheists, and some Muslims.

DemolitionRed 11-11-2017 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9688599)
Lets look at it from another angle, would Tesco's feature a Christian family in an advert for a Muslim festival? I don't think so. People may well celebrate Christmas for all the wrong reasons, but it is still a Christian festival, so I can see it rubbing some people the wrong way. Personally, I couldn't give a crap, the whole thing is just commercialised nonsense, but I do think people have a right to be offended by it

I think Christians are generally offended about their celebration being adopted by Pagans and atheists. At least Muslims believe in Jesus.


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