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GlitterEyes 09-05-2007 03:18 PM

Will lessons have been learnt?
 
Looking back at all the racism/bullying issues that happened do you think that lessons will of been learnt for this time? Do you think housemates will think twice before speaking about someone of another race or colour? How do you think the previous issues will change this big brother and others ahead? If there is a housemate who is of another race and housemates talk behind there backs....do you think big brother should/would step in or leave them to it?

Jack 09-05-2007 03:21 PM

I think housemates may feel stifled and not speak their mind (even if the comments are not racist) which is a shame.

andybigbro 09-05-2007 03:24 PM

Yeah If there is Someone of A different Race in the House then they will be carefull

MarkWaldorf 09-05-2007 03:25 PM

Probably not. Being locked up in a house for 3 months is bound to mess with you, mentally. It'll do stuff to people, stuff which they may regret.

Sunny_01 09-05-2007 03:26 PM

I hope that lessons have been learned by the makers! they need to nip things in the bud a lot sooner than they did on CBB otherwise it will be a nightmare

Jack 09-05-2007 03:27 PM

Having said that in previous series housemates have been far more racist than Jade was in CBB5. For example attacks on Shahbaz (calling him Shabab and Shiraz). Craig in BB6 was also racist calling Makosi 'Queen Africa' and Kemal 'Kebab'. Housemates ought to be very careful indeed.

GlitterEyes 09-05-2007 03:27 PM

I think alot could be blocked out and that is a shame because there is enough sound dips in it already and it will ruin the flow of the show. I think they cannot put in housemates all of the same colour...because questions would be raised but equally if they do put a mix of races they run the risk of it all going bottoms up again.

GiRTh 09-05-2007 03:29 PM

I doubt it. I think no publicity is bad publicity and the show will be as controversial as ever.

MarkWaldorf 09-05-2007 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I think alot could be blocked out and that is a shame because there is enough sound dips in it already and it will ruin the flow of the show. I think they cannot put in housemates all of the same colour...because questions would be raised but equally if they do put a mix of races they run the risk of it all going bottoms up again.
There has always been a mix in BB, so it'll most likely be the same this year. But hopefully for some housemates, other cultures won't be a culture shock for them, which happened in CBB. They should really just become interested, and not use it against them, like Jo and co did.

nodisharmony 09-05-2007 03:30 PM

I think it will be like walking into a room, which is in total darkness and full of broken glass on the ground and you have to walk in bare feet and try to find your path through the broken glass, but as you can't see a thing, it is totally futile.

From that little story, I can guarantee with absolute certainty that ALL housemates who are white will be very, very, very aware of what occured and what not to do in Big Brother 8






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Jack 09-05-2007 03:32 PM

You can just tell that any little thing said in a negative to way to a black or asian housemate it's going to be blown out of proportion and exagerated by the press.

MarkWaldorf 09-05-2007 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by Jackboi89
You can just tell that any little thing said in a negative to way to a black or asian housemate it's going to be blown out of proportion and exagerated by the press.
Yeah, that's true. It's always going to lead back to CBB.

nodisharmony 09-05-2007 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by Jackboi89
You can just tell that any little thing said in a negative to way to a black or asian housemate it's going to be blown out of proportion and exagerated by the press.
A very astute observation Jackboi89.

It will be found and the Newspaper editors will be ready.

There is only one big problem! If the editors from Endemol can't do their job properly this time round, then it is better to shut-up-shop and pull the plug on the show immediately.

The responsibility lies with them to NOT repeat CBB Jan.




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the_chosen_one 09-05-2007 03:39 PM

I think theyll be a bit nicer to each other this time. What i saw of celeb bb there was bullying and arguing so i dont think theyll want to be like that. :bigsmile:

Cody™ 09-05-2007 03:39 PM

i wonder if they will even be sending members of the minority groups in the house at all...

Fat.Rat 09-05-2007 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by the_chosen_one
I think theyll be a bit nicer to each other this time. What i saw of celeb bb there was bullying and arguing so i dont think theyll want to be like that. :bigsmile:
i agree.:cheer2:

nodisharmony 09-05-2007 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by krazy1
i wonder if they will even be sending members of the minority groups in the house at all...
If they didn't do that, what would everybody from minority groups think?

I think that Endemol will have already worked that out.

I have a very good opinion, that there will be members of that group as housemates

Perhaps more than ever before? Just to prove that we are a nation who cares.




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the_chosen_one 09-05-2007 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nodisharmony

I have a very good opinion, that there will be members of that group as housemates
:
What group? Theres many minorities.:thumbs:

GlitterEyes 09-05-2007 04:02 PM

Would be quite interesting if the switched it up completely having 11 people of colour and one white person to see how that would work but cannot see that happening. Having an equal amount would be interesting to see how they bond and how they form friendships but I think that would be making bb8 to much trying to make a point.

nodisharmony 09-05-2007 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Quote:

Originally posted by nodisharmony

I have a very good opinion, that there will be members of that group as housemates
:
What group? Theres many minorities.:thumbs:
Ethnic types:thumbs:

I think that was what krazy1 was refering too?



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the_chosen_one 09-05-2007 04:07 PM

I hope they dont try to put too many people from different countries in on purpose to make up for all that stuff from celeb bb. Id like them to just put in some nice people who are up for fun.

GiRTh 09-05-2007 04:10 PM

I think we're thinking far too much about race. I think the housemates will have enough problems in therewithout how their word might sound. There have been other minor racist incidents in the past but nothing of the scale of CBB5. You need a special kind of a*sehole to cause a ruck like that so step up Jade Goody.

Last year only had two people of colour. One was a total fruit and nutcase, and the other did not even get into the house. If we count Aisleyne as an honorary black person I have to say that last years house was anything but a fair representation of the British public.

nodisharmony 09-05-2007 04:10 PM

We shall know soon enough:thumbs:





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Mike 09-05-2007 04:34 PM

I really hope we don't end up with simliar problems to what we had during CBB, in the end it was like we were watching a completely different show to BB.

nodisharmony 09-05-2007 04:36 PM

Davina McCall would concur with that view:thumbs:




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_B_B_Addict 09-05-2007 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
Looking back at all the racism/bullying issues that happened do you think that lessons will of been learnt for this time? Do you think housemates will think twice before speaking about someone of another race or colour? How do you think the previous issues will change this big brother and others ahead? If there is a housemate who is of another race and housemates talk behind there backs....do you think big brother should/would step in or leave them to it?

I don’t think it will effect how the new hm speak to each other ! But they should take note ! That whole fiasco in January was blown out of proportion because it was celeb bb ! If an ordinary member of the public has those view they just get called idiots and they get boo’d on there eviction night (if you remember back to bb5 Marco was saying stuff about asylum seekers how they sponge off society )did any thing happen to him ?? ! But if a celeb has those view it’s a totally different matter because apparently young people look up to them !

It would be wise for bb not to put someone in the house with those views in the first place !

Jake! 09-05-2007 07:48 PM

I think that I learnt after seeing the new eye that BB can be ****ing ****!!!! But I'll still watch till death do us part! ****ing Never Hopefully!

Sam 09-05-2007 07:52 PM

I dont think they will have learnt, they never do. C'mon this is Big Brother were talking about. They completely get criticised for puttting Nikki back in the house, so what do they do? Put Jade back in the following series. They wont learn because they are foolish, its sad to say though

nodisharmony 09-05-2007 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BBMadFan2007
I think that I learnt after seeing the new eye that BB can be ****ing ****!!!! But I'll still watch till death do us part! ****ing Never Hopefully!

Big Brother 8 will be so exciting BBMadFan2007, you will be forgetting about the EYE real quick, trust me!!

After the nightmare of CBB Jan. The creators of the BB show, Endemol, will need to make something special.

there will be some controversy and some housemates which we will really be debating about.

Stick with Channel 4 and stick with Big Brother 8:thumbs:




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ryanaldinho10 09-05-2007 08:20 PM

Yeah I totally agree with the person who said it was even more out of preportion because it was CELEBRITY Big Brother, as CBB4 was quite controversial aswell with Pete Burns and his gorilla coat. I have always been to the opinion that Jade and Co weren't as racist as people make out, if someone has an argument with a person of colour, they immediately get labelled - racist. Therefore if we can get through this BB with minimal discussion about racism, I think that BB will be fine in the long run. The press will be hungry to latch onto anything that is remotely regarded as being racist, therefore I just pray that there are no 'incidents' whatsoever; as that would put the final nail into the BB coffing.

nodisharmony 09-05-2007 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ryanaldinho10
Yeah I totally agree with the person who said it was even more out of preportion because it was CELEBRITY Big Brother, as CBB4 was quite controversial aswell with Pete Burns and his gorilla coat. I have always been to the opinion that Jade and Co weren't as racist as people make out, if someone has an argument with a person of colour, they immediately get labelled - racist. Therefore if we can get through this BB with minimal discussion about racism, I think that BB will be fine in the long run. The press will be hungry to latch onto anything that is remotely regarded as being racist, therefore I just pray that there are no 'incidents' whatsoever; as that would put the final nail into the BB coffing.

That's very true ryanaldinho10

Jade Goody and Jo & Danielle were just labelled Racist, by the media, the TV, the Newspapers, so we just assumed that they were racist. Anyway, the investigation has been closed on that one and maybe they can get back to their lives, without having that horrible word hanging over them.

The media will be looking for anything that may be considered as racial and any slightest thing that happens between a white person against an ethnic person will be scrutinized and the poor white man or woman is going to suffer.

It is just two or maybe more people just not clicking

nothing more. Just because they are of a different race or colour, it doesn't mean that there is racism.

We have all this to worry about!

I hope someone remembers this thread, when the time comes.




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