Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9698933)

Helen Flanagan >

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 9698934)

Don't be ridiculous.

Originally Posted by RileyHollyoaks (Post 9698935)

Helen literally flopped at all of them and made everyone starve for a week

Originally Posted by RileyHollyoaks (Post 9698935)

Helen literally flopped at all of them and made everyone starve for a week

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9698939)

Sounds like great entertainment to me, not seeing your point luvvie!

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9698937)

i'm not well for now at least because the GC is coming :clap1:

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9698944)

:clap1:

She did get full stars before the live trial tbf

I rather watch people who struggle with the trials than people who can do it without a problem. Not here for them having good food every night

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9698958)

I agree, people used to moan about the serial trialists and they even switched to solely app-voting to try and combat it, but all it's done is make the show even duller than it already is

Last series was absolutely diabolical because they always did so well in the trials, they were always eating and sitting round signing ****ing kumbaya and it was ****. If it weren't for Martin literally nothing would've happened

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9698939)

Sounds like great entertainment to me, not seeing your point luvvie!

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9698944)

:clap1:

She did get full stars before the live trial tbf

I rather watch people who struggle with the trials than people who can do it without a problem. Not here for them having good food every night

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9698958)

I agree, people used to moan about the serial trialists and they even switched to solely app-voting to try and combat it, but all it's done is make the show even duller than it already is

Last series was absolutely diabolical because they always did so well in the trials, they were always eating and sitting round signing ****ing kumbaya and it was ****. If it weren't for Martin literally nothing would've happened

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9699041)

She didn't struggle, she refused to do most of them like a brat.

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 9698977)

Last series was ****e tbh, it was obvious from the second she was announced that Scarlett was going to win, so it was just a cause of seeing which order the others went in. First series I've stopped watching half way tbh

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 9698963)

I don't mind if they scream and struggle through it and come away with just one or two stars, but the trials are the best thing about the show. I want to see them. The likes of Helen quitting the second an ant lands on her, it's like why are you there?

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9698966)

I remember when Ant told Helen she has to get the stars from her mouth but she used her hands and ignored Ant and Dec :joker:

yeah i agree, i did like last series but not as much as i did years ago because everyone was good at the trials even the serial trialist Adam. I see the same thing happening this year unless Gemma is actually going back. They all go at each other when they are hungry.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9699040)

It wasn't though. We didn't even get to see half the trials.

If she gave them all a go and flopped fair enough but she didn't.

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9699048)

Like I said to Rob though, the trials are just the same old crap recycled every year, I don't really find them entertaining in and of themselves anymore - they're just a vehicle for a celebrity to hopefully produce some entertaining reactions/consequences. But I do get that if you like the trials it would annoy you

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9699238)

But Helen not doing the trials was entertaining? :unsure:

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9699239)

Yes. Her quitting or doing it wrong was great and then it pissed everyone off because they are not getting good food :clap1:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9699240)

Doing it wrong, fair enough. But just flat out refusing to take part in a TV show she is being paid to do wasn't entertaining, it was completely unnecessary.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9699248)

She wasn't though, she didn't do them.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9699238)

But Helen not doing the trials was entertaining? :unsure:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9699250)

Also saying the trials are just similar themes repackaged well that goes for most RTV. How many times can you watch 12 people evict one another from a house? Or vote to eliminate singers from Simon Cowell's pocket. It's not really the point imo.

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9699329)

Yes...I don't care for the trials, therefore I don't care if they're completed. I see the trials only as a vehicle for entertainment, either through a celebrity's reaction to them (maybe like Kim or Lady C), or through the consequences they produce (i.e. the celebrity doing crap or refusing to do it meaning the camp goes hungry). And I much prefer the latter, all I'm interested in is them not getting any food, I don't care how it happens.

Helen refusing to do the trials was entertaining precisely because the whole camp got fed up with her and their hunger led to conflicts.



That's not the same at all. I'm talking about the production of a reality show, you're talking really about the contestants on reality shows. The trials are stale because they're the same concepts recycled, hell in the context of Big Brother a lot of the tasks have been repeated (I'm sick of the fish guts nonsense), but both BB and X Factor (and IAC) can still produce a perfectly good series if they get the cast right. Look at BB10, one of the worst produced series ever but the cast managed to carry it on their own.